[NYCGP]

Originally Posted by twinturbo335

Possibly. Regardless, she doesn't deserve a 400,000 paycheck funded by students and tax payers when the university is cutting classes and staff.

Ok. So what should you pay her? It's not her fault your state can't balance it's budget. You fire her, how much do you think her replacement is gonna get paid? Jealous ignorance spawns comments like this...

You want a school run by professionals and administrators getting paid 30k a year?

Grow up...

[Gregxi]

Why was that cop not at Penn State last week spraying all the idiots protesting is beyond me.
He should travel from park to park school to school.

[matthewk]

Originally Posted by twinturbo335

Possibly. Regardless, she doesn't deserve a 400,000 paycheck funded by students and tax payers when the university is cutting classes and staff.

How do you know that? Who do you think spends half of their time lobbying for funds from the wealthy to build student centers and liberaries. I bet the universitie's return on her paycheck is better than that of any other staff member.

[driersheets]

Originally Posted by NYCGP

Ok. So what should you pay her? It's not her fault your state can't balance it's budget. You fire her, how much do you think her replacement is gonna get paid? Jealous ignorance spawns comments like this...

You want a school run by professionals and administrators getting paid 30k a year?

Grow up...

Originally Posted by matthewk

How do you know that? Who do you think spends half of their time lobbying for funds from the wealthy to build student centers and liberaries. I bet the universitie's return on her paycheck is better than that of any other staff member.

to all points

[matthewk]

Originally Posted by NYCGP

Not a Newt fan.. but one thing he said is scary to even imagine..

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-one-administ/

What do we need so many administrators for? Oh that's right.. because colleges are NPO and they HAVE to spend the money somewhere. Soooooo... let's keep raising our tuition and hiring more administrators...

His comment wasn't exactly true.. "Administrators" in the terms of the data he was reading, includes the IT guys managing the systems, on campus health workers, facilities management, etc... It's a broad term that isn't limited to the executive management staff.

[BMWinNorthdakota]

Originally Posted by just4kickz

I don't believe North Dakota state schools carry much prestige... and many other state schools do not carry the same level as that of the UC system. If you look at overall rankings, our institutions are generally at the higher end of the spectrum. Saying people are ignorant just shows how little you understand about California culture. You must know that America has plenty of different political sects and social cultures. We are not the same as North Dakota, and what we value is probably very different from what your state values. Where I was raised, many people are self-made. These are professionals who used education as a tool for social mobility and progress, and as a result, California has prospered.

The funny thing about these boards is that many of you guys fail to realize how different people are from state to state. It's okay if you don't value education over say the economy... because there are a lot of problems in the world and we all worry about different things.

Self-Made? Do you honestly think that is exclusive to your state?

Are you talking about the idea that you can spend more than your check book dictates? Those types of "values"?

Your supremacy/elitist mentality is funny, especially considering that California has been insolvent for how many years?...Take your comparison of the two said states one step further and compare the financial well being of the two. Looks like California has their "values" and priorities right.

Originally Posted by NYCGP

OK.. I had a similar conversation with the union during my last CBA negotiations. They were completely disconnected from reality as well..

While I completely agree that education is so very important at helping our youth transition into the workforce.. The idea that we can spend more money now than we did during the highs of 06-07 is just ludicrous.

Unions are DEMANDING more money from employers and the state ones are DEMANDING that jobs not get cut and REFUSE to take a pay cut...

WHERE DO THEY THINK THE MONEY IS COMING FROM!?!? The well has run dry... and in my case during negotiations I offered to open up my books and show them how much had been lost due to the recession. They were completely uninterested. That meant nothing to them.

Business owners have become the enemy of the country. We are all evil greedy people who only want to abuse and take advantage of workers for our own financial gain.... Seem a little familiar? Starting to sound like an Ayn Rand novel... no?

This is very similar to the people of Greece not understanding that they can't retire at age 25 and get benefits for the rest of their lives. Or France for that matter. In bad times there isn't enough money to go around.

Not a Newt fan.. but one thing he said is scary to even imagine..

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-one-administ/

What do we need so many administrators for? Oh that's right.. because colleges are NPO and they HAVE to spend the money somewhere. Soooooo... let's keep raising our tuition and hiring more administrators.

Stop asking wall street execs to tighten their belts when unions, colleges, states and even this country is unwilling to do it themselves.... fucking hypocrites...

/end rant..

+ fucking 103020384398

Originally Posted by twinturbo335

You got to be kidding me? Paid too little? Nearly half a million dollars annually for a chancellor? FYI, the majority of their pay check comes from student's tuition. Yet, universities are continuing to cut professors, classes, and students and increase tuition fees.



You wouldn't want to do that. The victims are now filing a lawsuit against the university and the police. More tax payer's money down the drain..


Just read on the news that the police chief is on paid leave also.

What would you propose a university to pay them? 10 bucks an hour? Yeah, that ull draw intelligent individuals/give the position holder incentive to run an organization in a successful manor.

give me a fucking break dude.. Leaders, in most organizations, are chosen because they are the best candidate to lead the organization. If those who choose the individual feel like she/he is worth that, then all the more power to them.

Originally Posted by driersheets

what do you think the chancellor does? sit on his or her ass all day?

This sad reality is, yes, he probably does. This mindset is shared with other individuals who believe that success and wealth happened today. Many of them also maintain that the people who are "rollin' in it" don't deserve it/acquired it through greed and evil sadistic horrible cruel morbid ways that exploited the poor and oppressed people.

What those who hold this belief do not see is the countless years of blood sweat and tears that it took many of those who have attained success to arrive at a high paying position.


But lets be honest here bros , rich people are fucking evil and are paid way to fucking much just cuzzz

[just4kickz]

Originally Posted by BMWinNorthdakota

Self-Made? Do you honestly think that is exclusive to your state?

Are you talking about the idea that you can spend more than your check book dictates? Those types of "values"?

Your supremacy/elitist mentality is funny, especially considering that California has been insolvent for how many years?...Take your comparison of the two said states one step further and compare the financial well being of the two. Looks like California has their "values" and priorities right.

you only think I'm writing in an elitist tone because you want it to sound like that, and i'm sorry that i make it sound that way because i'm really not trying to. i'm focusing on california because this is a california school. i think by now you can easily imagine how much i value education, and i'll agree that the govenors of the current and past have not budgeted well, but that is out of my hands.

if you take the water in the well analogy and the shrinking amount of water available, the person in charge must decide what purposes the water will be used for, who will get it, and how much. this isn't an easy decision, but i would certainly value some things over others... like education over prisons.

as far as the comparisons of state financials, yes i bet your state is in better condition, but that's a tangent. I'm just advocating for education. I never said I knew the solution to our budget problems--that's not my expertise nor my responsibility. However, I will say what I value, and I can only hope that those who make the final decisions understand what's important to me.

a large part of these protests is because the students have no voice at the table. maybe it doesn't matter to you... but it does matter to many.

[schoy]

Originally Posted by just4kickz

a large part of these protests is because the students have no voice at the table. maybe it doesn't matter to you... but it does matter to many.

Not entirely true. Students (and their families) have the element of choice; they can vote with their wallet and at the ballot box. And they always have the choice of leaving for another university.

Edit: Always interesting to note why there are hardly (if ever) any tuition-hike protests at private universities. Why do people think somehow a public university shouldn't be subject to the same inflationary and economic pressures?

[ragingclue]

Originally Posted by schoy

Not entirely true. Students (and their families) have the element of choice; they can vote with their wallet and at the ballot box. And they always have the choice of leaving for another university.

Edit: Always interesting to note why there are hardly (if ever) any tuition-hike protests at private universities. Why do people think somehow a public university shouldn't be subject to the same inflationary and economic pressures?

Was just about to type the same thing. Students MOST DEFINITELY and ABSOLUTELY have a choice and a voice in the matter. Go elsewhere. Just like any other company doing business, schools should be subject to reaping what they sow. If it's too expensive, go somewhere else that is less expensive. Also, if money's such a big concern, don't dump all that money into gen ed. Most big universities (and I KNOW this was the case at Michigan) have half-assed gen ed classes anyway, mostly taught by clueless GSIs for discussions and lectures held in once-record-setting sized lecture halls. I know if I did my education over again, I would have knocked out gen ed at a smaller, cheaper school and then started forking over bajillions of dollars only when it was time to delve into my major. And you know what? It wouldn't have made a lick of difference in my current knowledge base.

[M3Bahn]

[vig]

im just here for da memez

[driersheets]

Originally Posted by ragingclue

Was just about to type the same thing. Students MOST DEFINITELY and ABSOLUTELY have a choice and a voice in the matter. Go elsewhere. Just like any other company doing business, schools should be subject to reaping what they sow. If it's too expensive, go somewhere else that is less expensive. Also, if money's such a big concern, don't dump all that money into gen ed. Most big universities (and I KNOW this was the case at Michigan) have half-assed gen ed classes anyway, mostly taught by clueless GSIs for discussions and lectures held in once-record-setting sized lecture halls. I know if I did my education over again, I would have knocked out gen ed at a smaller, cheaper school and then started forking over bajillions of dollars only when it was time to delve into my major. And you know what? It wouldn't have made a lick of difference in my current knowledge base.

I did that. Oregon is making me take more gen Ed. Fffuuuuuuuuuu

[BMWinNorthdakota]

Originally Posted by ragingclue

Was just about to type the same thing. Students MOST DEFINITELY and ABSOLUTELY have a choice and a voice in the matter. Go elsewhere. Just like any other company doing business, schools should be subject to reaping what they sow. If it's too expensive, go somewhere else that is less expensive. Also, if money's such a big concern, don't dump all that money into gen ed. Most big universities (and I KNOW this was the case at Michigan) have half-assed gen ed classes anyway, mostly taught by clueless GSIs for discussions and lectures held in once-record-setting sized lecture halls. I know if I did my education over again, I would have knocked out gen ed at a smaller, cheaper school and then started forking over bajillions of dollars only when it was time to delve into my major. And you know what? It wouldn't have made a lick of difference in my current knowledge base.

Whats a free market?

Originally Posted by vig

im just here for da memez

Haha
<3

[driersheets]

Originally Posted by M3Bahn

Holy shit i lold

[ragingclue]

Originally Posted by driersheets

I did that. Oregon is making me take more gen Ed. Fffuuuuuuuuuu

That's why you have to check with your eventual school's policies/regulations first. That's actually the most important part.

[driersheets]

Originally Posted by ragingclue

That's why you have to check with your eventual school's policies/regulations first. That's actually the most important part.

well its hard to when you apply to several out of state schools lol i got in to wisconsin too. they didnt accept one of my writings and i had to take a full year of foreign language. At oregon, i didnt have to take a foreign language.

[M3Bahn]

Originally Posted by driersheets

Holy shit i lold

Thank god we have a new meme.


UC Davis officer an Internet 'meme' after pepper-spray incident

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...-incident.html

[grieverr]

^ LOL! My cheeks hurt!

[immiketoo]

Originally Posted by M3Bahn

Thank god we have a new meme.


UC Davis officer an Internet 'meme' after pepper-spray incident

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...-incident.html

And THAT's why we NEVER use pepper spray near open flame. Seriously.

[Oregano123]

http://anoncentral.tumblr.com/post/1...r-lt-john-pike

Lieutenant John Pike
Records Unit Manager
Phone: 530-752-3989
Cell: 530-979-0184
japikeiii@ucdavis.edu
Address: 4005 Cowell Blvd, Apt 616. Davis, CA 95618-6017
Skype: japike3
John A. Pike
POLICE LIEUTENANT - MSP
UC Davis

Job Title
2010: POLICE LIEUTENANT - MSP
2009: POLICE LIEUTENANT - MSP
2008: POLICE LIEUTENANT - MSP
2010 Pay
Base pay: $116,454.00, Overtime: $0.00, Other:$0.00
Total pay: $110,243.12
2009 Pay
Base pay: $110,727.00, Overtime: $0.00, Other:$0.00
Total pay: $107,792.20
2008 Pay
Base pay: N/A, Overtime: $0.00, Other:$0.00
Total pay: $105,000.00

LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/john-pike/18/a76/879
Pike has received 2 Meritorious Service Awards from UC Davis

File formal complaint against UC Davis police officer here: (pdf)

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Professor at the university, Nathan Brown, wrote an “open letter” calling on Chancellor Linda P.B. Katehi to resign. The entire letter boldly condemns the Chancellor for permitting riot police to handle students as police did. (source)

UC Chancellor Linda P.B. Katehi
Her response to the brutality
Offices of the Chancellor and Provost
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His boss, UCD Police Chief Annette Spicuzza, told the Davis Enterprise that she’s “very proud” of her officers. “I don’t believe any of our officers were hurt,” she says, “and I hope none of the students were injured.” (source)

UCD Police Chief Annette Spicuzza
(530) 752-3113
Salary: $125,000/yr
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UC Davis Police Department
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John Pike’s Education
California State University-Hayward (BS)
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Submit a story to Theta Chi Fraternity
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California Penal Code Section 12403.7 (a) (8)
(g) Any person who uses tear gas or tear gas weapons except in self-defense is guilty of a public offense and is punishable byimprisonment in a state prison for 16 months, or two or three years or in a county jail not to exceed one year or by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment, except that, if the use is against a peace officer, as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, engaged in the performance of his or her official duties and the person committing the offense knows or reasonably should know that the victim is a peace officer, the offense is punishable by imprisonment in a state prison for 16 months or two or three years or by a fine of one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both the fine and imprisonment.

[The Ghost of Tom Joad]

can someone please explain to me why there's such a witch hunt for this chancellor? i get that she's at the top, but unless i've missed something huge, i doubt she authorized the cop to spray the students.

[ABQ325i]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/I-supp...62268540538711