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      06-15-2011, 11:53 PM   #133
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Nice shots people...although I think we need to change the name of the contest to "Depth of Fieldolicious" (!) instead of Bokelicious...since most of these shots have very limited bokeh (by definition) and a lot of DOF....just sayin'
Everything out of focus has bokeh. Bokeh just describes the quality of the blur in the out of focus area.

Depth of field just describes the distance between the nearest object and furthest.

I've been struggling with what's difficult to understand about bokeh. Bokeh is not DOF, or out of focus areas, but how the out of focus areas are rendered. The depth of field may be shallow or deep, but the quality of the blur is the bokeh. This is what may or may not give expensive lenses an advantage as they typically have more, and rounded, aperture blades. Something like the nifty-fifty (Canon), having only five aperture blades, may not render as impressive bokeh as say the Pentacon 135 f/2.8, with its 15 aperture blades.

In a nutshell, Bokeh is just the quality of the blur in out of focus areas. Judging the quality is what's left to the interpretation of the viewer.
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      06-16-2011, 01:09 AM   #134
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Everything out of focus has bokeh. Bokeh just describes the quality of the blur in the out of focus area.

Depth of field just describes the distance between the nearest object and furthest.

I've been struggling with what's difficult to understand about bokeh. Bokeh is not DOF, or out of focus areas, but how the out of focus areas are rendered. The depth of field may be shallow or deep, but the quality of the blur is the bokeh. This is what may or may not give expensive lenses an advantage as they typically have more, and rounded, aperture blades. Something like the nifty-fifty (Canon), having only five aperture blades, may not render as impressive bokeh as say the Pentacon 135 f/2.8, with its 15 aperture blades.

In a nutshell, Bokeh is just the quality of the blur in out of focus areas. Judging the quality is what's left to the interpretation of the viewer.
this is how i always preceived it.

I think what a lot of people are looking for is a suject to be far from the background so that they have 1 solid out of focus area that is like a smear. this is a perfect situation, which in the real world is hard to come by, so the result is people debating OOF vs Bukah.

I think a lot of people here just don't like to see the transition area from focus to out of focus and that's what's bothering people.
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      06-16-2011, 01:35 AM   #135
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It isn't difficult to understand once defined for somebody, but many people use the two terms (DOF and bokeh) interchangeably. Maybe this thread helps clear up some of those misconceptions.
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lemme try again as well...

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      06-16-2011, 04:06 AM   #137
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Everything out of focus has bokeh. Bokeh just describes the quality of the blur in the out of focus area.

Depth of field just describes the distance between the nearest object and furthest.

I've been struggling with what's difficult to understand about bokeh. Bokeh is not DOF, or out of focus areas, but how the out of focus areas are rendered. The depth of field may be shallow or deep, but the quality of the blur is the bokeh. This is what may or may not give expensive lenses an advantage as they typically have more, and rounded, aperture blades. Something like the nifty-fifty (Canon), having only five aperture blades, may not render as impressive bokeh as say the Pentacon 135 f/2.8, with its 15 aperture blades.

In a nutshell, Bokeh is just the quality of the blur in out of focus areas. Judging the quality is what's left to the interpretation of the viewer.
From what I understand Bokeh is not just that "blur"...it is how the light is rendered within that blur specifically as pertains to photography. If it is just the blur then what we see with our eyes everyday is bokeh. I just don't think that was the interpretation of whoever came up with that name. But then again I am just an amateur.
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      06-16-2011, 05:43 PM   #138
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hey guys, very new to this, you all have excellent fotos, here is one of mine..

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cool shot!
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Bokeh is just the quality of the blur in out of focus areas. Judging the quality is what's left to the interpretation of the viewer.
That's how I understand it. A nice appealing blur that when used in conjunction with the in focus portions (subject) of the image, help enhance the overall appeal of the image.

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Here's my submission:


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***Not my submission...just an example***Well if the Bokeh is the "quality" of the out focus blur then I should resubmit this:


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      06-17-2011, 07:19 AM   #143
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Well if the Bokeh is the "quality" of the out focus blur then I should resubmit my first submission!! lol

Is it the quality of the blur or the shapes??????????
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the quality includes the shapes Paul.
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updated for a new entry, it definitely straddles the line between narrow DOF and Bukah.
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Through my reading...I am in hopes that this is indeed Bokeh. If I'm wrong, please let me know.

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looks good Joey!
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      06-19-2011, 05:26 PM   #148
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There are lots of possible winners here. Congrats on the great theme. I hope that we get multiple votes.
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indeed. Good luck Activ to put up the voting page... lots of submissions in a long thread.
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This is going to be fun! Starting to put together the voting thread now, so many great submissions.
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so where do we vote?
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