F1 2023: Bahrain GP - Sakhir (Mar 5)

M5Rick · 03-01-2023, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Killed by Death

''What language did I use?'' Good 'ol Guenther in control

///M Power-Belgium · 03-01-2023, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

I think this is well known despite what teams say. It’s really how much more the car is tuned for the lead driver. To think both cars are completely equal isn’t correct otherwise you’d find drivers with similar skill sets that fit the car, and not find any driver you think could drive a certain setup.

The car control MAX has is insane. Much like Senna, who could be on the absolute edge of out of control and still be lightning fast. And if you pay a good amount of money to get that driver in your team, you build the car around them. To the extreme. Mediocrity is not F1’s focus.

And I don't need to speak about MAX's races in the pouring rain like last year at Suzuka .

TheBingoBalls · 03-01-2023, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

The car control MAX has is insane. Much like Senna, who could be on the absolute edge of out of control and still be lightning fast. And if you pay a good amount of money to get that driver in your team, you build the car around them. To the extreme. Mediocrity is not F1’s focus.

And I don't need to speak about MAX's races in the pouring rain like last year at Suzuka .

That’s all fine and I don’t disagree, but I don’t want to hear it from all the Red Bull fans complaining that Checo can’t do this or that in such a car when we know the car is catered more to VER.

Mercedes is a prime example how it’s difficult to improve or fix a car when the base concept is going in direction and you’re trying to go in another - it’s not easy to develop a car that was intended for VER and make tweaks to suit Checo’s driving style.

M5Rick · 03-02-2023, 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by NYG

Merc didn't have a decade to prepare for this generation of cars this time around.

*Merc can't change the car from the 'maxi skirt' jalopy also as there'd be a huge chunk of budget money gone with a side pod new car and they would be even slower catching up with the new design.

zero21 · 03-02-2023, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

That’s all fine and I don’t disagree, but I don’t want to hear it from all the Red Bull fans complaining that Checo can’t do this or that in such a car when we know the car is catered more to VER.

Mercedes is a prime example how it’s difficult to improve or fix a car when the base concept is going in direction and you’re trying to go in another - it’s not easy to develop a car that was intended for VER and make tweaks to suit Checo’s driving style.

They just released a story about how they recognized their updates last year affected Checo's ability to drive the car, and this year's car is suited very well to both of them. Check himself gave that insight.

M5Rick · 03-02-2023, 06:07 AM

Nick De Vries first drive in the AT! maybe a future RB driver.

///M Power-Belgium · 03-02-2023, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Nick De Vries first drive in the AT! maybe a future RB driver.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?sxsr...id:jDnYPc76Elg

'24 hours to go my friend ...Can't wait !

M5Rick · 03-02-2023, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

'24 hours to go my friend ...Can't wait !

I like Wolff's hat

Robin_NL · 03-02-2023, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Killed by Death

I'm only still at E5 from Drive to Survive'22, but I had a real laugh @ that one.

Steiner is a real One-Man-Show. Nice and smart guy with the 'wrong' team...

Cheers
Robin

Robin_NL · 03-02-2023, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Nick De Vries first drive in the AT! maybe a future RB driver.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?sxsr...id:jDnYPc76Elg

It's spelled Nyck.

Cheers
Robin

Robin_NL · 03-02-2023, 07:22 AM

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/18419...crashgate.html

FWIW...

Cheers
Robin

M5Rick · 03-02-2023, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Robin_NL

https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/18419...crashgate.html

FWIW...

Cheers
Robin

Good point Robin and of course Bernie is right, it could have been settled in private without F1 being dragged through the mud.

M5Rick · 03-02-2023, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Robin_NL

It's spelled Nyck.

Cheers
Robin

Nyck it is then

MoeTE87 · 03-02-2023, 07:48 AM

Drive to Survive has been great so far! Cant wait for the actual season to start this weekend! Woooooooo

TheBingoBalls · 03-02-2023, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by zero21

They just released a story about how they recognized their updates last year affected Checo's ability to drive the car, and this year's car is suited very well to both of them. Check himself gave that insight.

That may be the case but let’s see what happens over the course of the season. I tend not to hear what people say, instead see what happens on the track - the stopwatch doesn’t lie.

zero21 · 03-02-2023, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

That may be the case but let’s see what happens over the course of the season. I tend not to hear what people say, instead see what happens on the track - the stopwatch doesn’t lie.

Fair enough - I'm expecting the same as everyone else...it starts fairly even and then gravitates toward Max because we all know the setup with RB.

NYG · 03-02-2023, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

That may be the case but let’s see what happens over the course of the season. I tend not to hear what people say, instead see what happens on the track - the stopwatch doesn’t lie.

So what position does Checo have to finish in the WDC to make this an issue/non-issue?

He was basically in the running for P2 last season and finished P3.

He's never going to finish above Max so at one point does it become controversy or cope? (Not directed at you just in general I think media/some fans are over-exaggerating alternative development conditions that are never going to put Checo on the same level as Max)

NYG · 03-02-2023, 10:31 AM

Guys.... FP1 is TOMORROW!

Rono63 · 03-02-2023, 11:11 AM

I’m looking forward to Q3 on Saturday where we will see what the top teams have (no more sandbagging).

NYG · 03-02-2023, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rono63

I’m looking forward to Q3 on Saturday where we will see what the top teams have (no more sandbagging).

Lewis Hamilton doesn't make it to Q3.

Who wants in on this bet?

lens · 03-02-2023, 11:23 AM

Fuck yes, Max back to his usual self.

Nothing better to start the 2023 season than Maxplaining. I love his interactions with Charles.

TheBingoBalls · 03-02-2023, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by NYG

So what position does Checo have to finish in the WDC to make this an issue/non-issue?

He was basically in the running for P2 last season and finished P3.

He's never going to finish above Max so at one point does it become controversy or cope? (Not directed at you just in general I think media/some fans are over-exaggerating alternative development conditions that are never going to put Checo on the same level as Max)

It’s not so much where he finishes, it’s what happens during the course of the season. Checo was in championship position until Red Bull brought upgrades and his performance fell of and all the Red Bull fans on here saying Max needs a new #2 when in reality it was the car that was largely to blame for the drop off.

If Red Bull has indeed found a balance for the car that suits both VER and Checo? I would expect Checo to be up there with VER almost every race.

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