[rcracin]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

I'm just stunned that FIA allowed Merc to have das.

Maybe you're more stunned that RB wasn't smart enough to dream it up. Sucks to be you.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by rcracin

Maybe you're more stunned that RB wasn't smart enough to dream it up. Sucks to be you.

Maybe not, if RB only had it then it would probably be banned for sure.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

It's like a scene from 'Terminator'! the android cop emerging from the flames !!

Positive my friend .I just watched the video again in slow motion ..
Romain attempted "twice" to climb out of the sea of flames ..

I Just made a screenshot from his second attempt , in his second attempt he gripped the halo to pull himself out of the cockpit in flames .

"The red circle "IS" Romain's ARM" He pulled and lifted himself on the Halo !

His second attempt was succes !

[Steeler]

M5theonlyone buddy you need new material soon.
You are losing complete respect of the whole board

[SteveChester]

I wasn't a massive fan of the halo when it was first introduced - but I am now. Saved his life undoubtedly!

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Positive my friend .I just watched the video again in slow motion ..
Romain attempted "twice" to climb out of the sea of flames ..

I Just made a screenshot from his second attempt , in his second attempt he gripped the halo to pull himself out of the cockpit in flames .

"The red circle "IS" Romain's ARM" He pulled and lifted himself on the Halo !

His second attempt was succes !

Looking at your pic it is the fitness training that gives him the strength to pull himself out after the initial crash impact, as you say he's a hero and a superman for sure!

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by dbarton62

M5theonlyone buddy you need new material soon.
You are losing complete respect of the whole board

I'm so worried now.

[NickyC]

That was an absolutely unbelievable crash. With the F1 fuel cells I didn't think it was possible for an explosion like that to occur, wrong as usual. That barrier he hit looked gnarly, I didn't think they still had barriers like that on modern F1 tracks but perhaps it was at such an odd place they didn't think they needed safer barriers? Good grief.

Thank goodness he's OK!

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

I'm just stunned that FIA allowed Merc to have das.

Merc has more than only DAS my friend ..
Red Bull and FERRARI proposed the FIA as for in '21 a PU-freeze !

Toto said : Mercedes will never agree . That's a humiliation for our hard work !
Currently the Mercs advantage is +/- 5 years ...That's why HONDA did an amazing job to keep the gap actually small !
That's why Merc already stopped the evolution for the '20 W11 . It's more than strong enough to finish this season .
Mercs priority is already 3 months going on for the Merc '21 evolution .
That's how strong the '20 W11 actually is today ! Actually it's unseen !
Never before in motorsports , the difference in power was bigger than today .
That's what we can see in the last seasons . A good driver in a Merc can win everything !
I said : A GOOD DRIVER . Cannot say that from BOT !
The base of the advantage was already made by Ross Brawn with the coming Hybride area in sight ..

MAX was the best of the rest like usual , of course he never had a chance in the slower RB16..most lacking ponies are the electric ponies !
No one can do it better in the slower RB16 than MAX !

As for the HAM fans . Hey guys I'm sporty too !

Congrats for HAM in the fastest car of the decade , the W11 !

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Merc has more than only DAS my friend ..
Red Bull and FERRARI proposed the FIA as for in '21 a PU-freeze !

Toto said : Mercedes will never agree . That's a humiliation for our hard work !
Currently the Mercs advantage is +/- 5 years ...That's why HONDA did an amazing job to keep the gap actually small !
That's why Merc already stopped the evolution for the '20 W11 . It's more than strong enough to finish this season .
Mercs priority is already 3 months going on for the Merc '21 evolution .
That's how strong the '20 W11 actually is today ! Actually it's unseen !
Never before in motorsports , the difference in power was bigger than today .
That's what we can see in the last seasons . A good driver in a Merc can win everything !
I said : A GOOD DRIVER . Cannot say that from BOT !
The base of the advantage was already made by Ross Brawn with the coming Hybride area in sight ..

MAX was the best of the rest like usual , of course he never had a chance in the slower RB16..most lacking ponies are the electric ponies !
No one can do it better in the slower RB16 than MAX !

As for the HAM fans . Hey guys I'm sporty too !

Congrats for HAM in the fastest car of the decade , the W11 !

Same here, congrats to the 44 car being quickest of the lot can't say the same about slipping 77 car,maybe they fitted das to the rear

[racerbruce]

Originally Posted by NickyC

That was an absolutely unbelievable crash. With the F1 fuel cells I didn't think it was possible for an explosion like that to occur, wrong as usual. That barrier he hit looked gnarly, I didn't think they still had barriers like that on modern F1 tracks but perhaps it was at such an odd place they didn't think they needed safer barriers? Good grief.

Thank goodness he's OK!

This was my post moments after GRO's massive shunt:

"The obvious question for the FIA is, how to prevent this level of impact at this location on-track.

An observation....the massive shunt occurred on a straight, but the barrier is angled at an appx 30 degree closing radius.

I presume the FIA will require the same deceleration barriers that currently exist at the usual-suspect runoff areas at this location."

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

He was catching him at an incredible rate and with a few more laps with tyre deg... throw the data to the dogs.

F1 is about data, not guessing or feelings or what you believe. VER was not going to catch HAM in the last 5 laps of the race without a catastrophic failure. None of your cheerleading will change that. It's getting embarrassing now.

[derbo]

Originally Posted by msk340i

https://streamable.com/rh7ynl

Best angle of the miracle that saved Grosjean today. Adrenaline is a hell of a drug!

That was damn insane.

[yco]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Positive my friend .I just watched the video again in slow motion ..
Romain attempted "twice" to climb out of the sea of flames ..

I Just made a screenshot from his second attempt , in his second attempt he gripped the halo to pull himself out of the cockpit in flames .

"The red circle "IS" Romain's ARM" He pulled and lifted himself on the Halo !

His second attempt was succes !

nice timing for the pic mate..

he is lucky that he wasnt all covered with fuel and fire at least at the initial part a place for him for moments...

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Congrats for HAM in the fastest car of the decade , the W11 !

of course he has the best car cause he helped/helping developing the car and he is the best driver on the grid at his time for such a long time ever..

moreover Merc' is already working on W12.. as Wolff said many months ago.. Red Bull might start to catch up as they did.. instead of boosting like a baloon Max's ego each race at each radio talk, Red Bull can work harder.. but Red Bull talks hard only.. thats the problem..

and now this talk will go to places we went through million times that ignores facts, stats, reality of a team work and talent.. and more importantly lack of fair judgement multiplied by pure fanaticism ..

so cheers mate wishing you a good evening..

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by yco

i guess this accident will change some of the barriers in every track.. or increasing the halo strength and cars bolting points.. such a crazy scary moment that has super high G's and fire.. Grosjean is lucky to be alive and at the same thanks to all safety regs up until this year..



i guess it was 3L MK even if the fire looks pretty intense for 3L.. but one way or another its a race fuel that ignites easier and burns in higher temps.. and if its like 3 gals it means more than 11 liters it means its like more or less 10% of the full load of fuel.. probably there ll be some changes with the collectors capacity or somehow where its placed etc in future.. combination of worst scenario possible but at least cockpit wasnt upside down then it d be very very nasty...

It's completely insane. They are saying the impact was upwards of 50g's which I can definitely believe. I don't know that 3 liters would have created a fireball like the one we saw. I will watch it again.

100 percent correct on placement of the collector capacity, location and whether it is a single collector or if, perhaps, multiple collectors can be used to reduce the volume of fuel contained therein.

So many questions after this.

[racerbruce]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

F1 is about data, not guessing or feelings or what you believe. VER was not going to catch HAM in the last 5 laps of the race without a catastrophic failure. None of your cheerleading will change that. It's getting embarrassing now.

https://motorsports.nbcsports.com/20...on-bahrain-gp/

Lewis Hamilton won the Bahrain GP under caution after an incident with three laps remaining saw a 17 second lead over Max Verstappen evaporate."

[MKSixer]

M5theonlyone , I just spoke about data and accuracy. Let me update my signature to model the behavior I'd love to see from everyone, (especially RBR fans) on this board.

There. Accurate.

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by racerbruce

https://motorsports.nbcsports.com/20...on-bahrain-gp/

Lewis Hamilton won the Bahrain GP under caution after an incident with three laps remaining saw a 17 second lead over Max Verstappen evaporate."

Well said, my friend!

M5theonlyone, data can be your friend, as well, if only you'd let it into your life. You'll have to let go of some of the fanboyism...are you ready for the challenge?

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

I'm just stunned that FIA allowed Merc to have das.

DAS was developed with the blessing of the FIA and is 100 percent legal. Why are you surprised?

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

F1 is about data, not guessing or feelings or what you believe. VER was not going to catch HAM in the last 5 laps of the race without a catastrophic failure. None of your cheerleading will change that. It's getting embarrassing now.

I'm 100% sure , MAX would do it with the W11 !

But that's NO excuse my friend . As we know MAX runs in the slower RB16
MAX never had a chance in the slower RB16...

RB wasted (lost) 3 sec. with MAX in the pits . Even that doesn't matter anymore..
The W11 is 5 years ahead of the rest ...Coming out of a slower corner , the W11 looks like a catapult , it looked like MAX was standing still , while the W11 ran out of sight !
MAX said over the board radio : F@ck I've nothing to lose ! I floor it everywhere .But the Merc pulls away anyway...

Honestly if I was MAX I would be frustrated as well . Perhaps even more than he is ...

Like usual the advantage won the race today..
The W11 is the killer machine of the decade !

[racerbruce]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

DAS was developed with the blessing of the FIA and is 100 percent legal. Why are you surprised?

Well said MK,
Winners on-track do not drive looking in their rear-view mirrors....they drive by looking forward.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

F1 is about data, not guessing or feelings or what you believe. VER was not going to catch HAM in the last 5 laps of the race without a catastrophic failure. None of your cheerleading will change that. It's getting embarrassing now.

I was going by a live follow from a motorsport site that said VER was catching HAM.