[thormessiah]

520 hp and 346 lbs of torque. Curiously enough this also happens to be the GT3RS specs 😁

[eluded]

It's hard to put more than 1000 HP to the ground effectively before 100 mph.

[heavyD^2]

I have had several cars like EVO, STI, Golf R etc which were in the 300 hp range and IMO that range makes for a quick car rather than fast. I liked the balance of the OG M2 with 365 hp and that was probably perfect for a street car so I would say the range of 400 hp is probably the best although that varies depending on vehicle size and weight. I can't imagine needing more power than what the S58 provides even in a heavy SUV like the X3MC it can shame most sports cars in a straight line. That said I would never turn down the opportunity to own a more powerful vehicle if the opportunity was presented. Sometimes engine character matters more than just raw hp/torque as the Shelby GT350 isn't blazing fast in a straight line but it's much more of an experience than most V8TT's that make more power.

[ReadyToParty]

RWD only between 400-500whp is fun for daily. But you have to learn the car to know your limits.
I feel that since AWD is way more forgiving and easy to handle it's a big window btwn 500-750awhp is fun. It's there when you need it and its still easily tameable.

[AlexFL]

Miata is only 180 hp but super fun to drive.

[tropicalypso]

The 480hp/490tq my M3 puts down is ridiculously overkill for the street.

My biggest gripe about the car is that I can't wind it out. At all. Put your foot into for more than 3-4 seconds, and you're breaking the law.

[Suds]

In a straight line, if you can’t spin the tires at what ever speed your at, it’s not enough!
On a road course, it’s a lot more complicated.

[Suds]

In a straight line, if you can’t spin the tires at what ever speed your at, it’s not enough!
On a road course, it’s a lot more complicated.

[F32Fleet]

In terms of long term reliability I'm thinking right around 100 hp/liter of displacement.

[henrylee]

I daily a S2000 with about 240hp and love to rev it out to redline.

[PoorLurker]

Originally Posted by henrylee

I daily a S2000 with about 240hp and love to rev it out to redline.

Some would agree that for those 10 seconds, you are in heaven.

[5.M0NSTER]

Originally Posted by PoorLurker

Some would agree that for those 10 seconds, you are in heaven.

Just what I tell the ladies

[clee1982]

Originally Posted by Suds

In a straight line, if you can’t spin the tires at what ever speed your at, it’s not enough!
On a road course, it’s a lot more complicated.

Let me put some bad tire on it to solve the not enough hp problem...

[GenXer]

Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER

Just what I tell the ladies

[ASAP]

For most modern cars around rwd 3500 lbs, 450 is fantastic...

For AWD, cars you can go up to 600... i.e M5... but that's highly dependent on weight.

I think a car like the F80 M3 Comp is at the very limit of what can be used to its full extent on a daily... power to weight just works

[Biginboca]

Originally Posted by henrylee

I daily a S2000 with about 240hp and love to rev it out to redline.

Why do you daily the S2K and not the M3? Seems like the M3 would make a better daily?

[henrylee]

Originally Posted by Biginboca

Why do you daily the S2K and not the M3? Seems like the M3 would make a better daily?

S2k has cheaper operation cost, older car, and more low key.

[quick]

For me, the car needs to have enough power to keep up with at least 85% of the cars on the road yet it should be fun to drive too.

High HP and low TQ is always a struggle and not so fun to drive. My current daily is a 2002 E55 with 350 HP/400 TQ and I can keep up with most of what's out there.

I also have a '12 X5M and at 620/570 , I am very pleased with that too.