[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

Oh boy not again and to each other

And Kubica vs MAX in the pitlane ? Wow !

[yco]

and above all what a race it was.. i guess it was the best of 2019.. it was clear from quali that it ll be like this..

[mk1-fan]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

And Kubica vs MAX in the pitlane ? Wow !

Yeah, Williams got that totally wrong.

[Das BMW]

Leclerc is my favorite, I’ve been pretty neutral to Vettel throughout, but that mistake by Vettel was just stupid.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

He will get gray hair....

I think it's time for Binotto to turn into the headmaster. Into the study and six of the best for each of them
Seriously though they hardly touched and looking at it again Lec could have easily avoided by slight turn to the left.

[fanatic1]

Great race and congrats to Max and Gasly, gutted for Albon. He, Albon, sure handled the press well.

Honda sure put their best foot forward, but that speed seems to have come all at once versus Ferrari and Merc. How much of it is FIA putting the brakes on Ferrari and Merc?

[M5Rick]

Look at Vet's wheel rim just after hit with Lec it is bent inwards.The rims hit after the tyres and ripped Lec's suspension.

[5.M0NSTER]

Good race for Max today. I don't like him one bit, but I have to give credit where it is due. He executed without a flaw.

Hamilton was actually racing at the end, so credit to him even though he caused that last accident. I respect that he still raced even though he's got the championship in the bag already.

I was very impressed with LeC's progress up the grip. Till I wasn't. Ferrari imploded today and they only have themselves to blame.

[hellrotm]

LOL Ferrari. More team implosion.

Vettel moves left into Lec as he was passing him. Then he complains over radio about Lec? Typical.

[Bartledoo]

Originally Posted by yco

Vettel fanboys still think that Vettel is the best really?
what he did was purely stupid and ruined yet another race of Ferrari.. this time dragged Leclerc with him.. he does something wrong in each race weekend.. i really started to feel he just occupies the Ferrari seat for nothing.. 5 years in Ferrari.. he had his chance more than enough.. and of course he said what the f Leclerc was doing.. like he always blames others for his faults.. he did the same thing in Istanbul 9 years ago.. Vettel ll be in trouble after this race.. im not sure Italy has more patience for him..

anyways.. very good race and pace from Red Bull and Max.. made all the right things Max deserved to win this weekend clearly.. Merc's were really low on top speed, it was clear on the last corner of final lap that even if Hamilton took the wider line before the exit still couldnt pass Gasly.. i dont understand why Merc' is trying the impossible for enduring the tires much more than it should, or expecting a slower tire to be fast this much..
felt pretty bad for Albon but opening the door wide open and closing it like a normal racing line wasnt that neat thing to do.. Hamilton may get a penalty i dont know but he was already braking hard to avoid the contact.. wasnt a good weekend for Merc's really.. Bottas was invisible this weekend again and i guess he ignored the signals of overheating coming from the team and lost it all.. im not even sure he could pass Leclerc anyway.. with lower top speed + Bottas' over conservative mood today..

Just fyi, but being a fan of and/or considering a driver to be a personal favorite does not necessarily mean thinking the driver is the best. Not everyone cherry picks the best of a particular competition category and says "there's my favorite" (EDIT: I should say "most winning" instead of "best" at this point because I find it hard to say Lewis is better than Max currently).

Anyways, the slight diagonal trajectory while taking the leading position over another driver is pretty standard and Leclerc would've done the same damn thing for sure. It's not like Vettel made any abrubt movement and Leclerc could surely see him moving towards him at a constant rate.

Hamilton divebombs Albon and it's all good on him though?... Even though he admits it's clearly his fault on camera?

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by mk1-fan

Poor Binotto surely has the worst job in F1......

Binotto needs bigger b@lls to speak to his drivers ASAP !

[yco]

Hamilton got 5 seconds penalty.. drops to P7..

i cant believe you guys still think that Leclerc can avoid that crash, its like a joke..
Lec gave him space, Vettel got near him pushed him out and actually if you watch replay, you ll see Lec gave him space AGAIN.. but it wasnt enough for Vettel cause he wanted Leclerc to stop and give him the space.. 4 times world champion is 19 points behind a very young driver in the same car, even if team is favoriting Vettel all the time.. there is something really wrong here..

[msk340i]

First off, I'm a huge Vettel "fanboy" but I know he's not the best.
Second, if you drive down Reta Oposta there track tightens on the right side at the marshal post leading towards the entry of turn 4. Watch how all drivers hang left leading to turn 4 but fucking Leclerc didn't account for that and kept going in a straight line. Vettel is his team mate and the pass was going to stick, he should've moved more to the left accounting for the tightening leading to turn 4. By not hanging left Leclerc was doing the same thing he did to Hamilton in Monza.
Yeah you can hate on Vettel but if you don't know shit about track layout I think you should stop and not call for a retirement.
Anyway, they're under investigation and if the stewards say it's Vettel's fault then it's good fault. How career is more than just a bunch of mistakes, he gave us many years of great racing and we are grateful for him.

[yco]

Originally Posted by msk340i

First off, I'm a huge Vettel "fanboy" but I know he's not the best.
Second, if you drive down Reta Oposta there track tightens on the right side at the marshal post leading towards the entry of turn 4. Watch how all drivers hang left leading to turn 4 but fucking Leclerc didn't account for that and kept going in a straight line. Vettel is his team mate and the pass was going to stick, he should've moved more to the left accounting for the tightening leading to turn 4. By not hanging left Leclerc was doing the same thing he did to Hamilton in Monza.
Yeah you can hate on Vettel but if you don't know shit about track layout I think you should stop and not call for a retirement.

you ll see how wrong you re in the following days by the press my friend.. not even commenting on it.. no need..

take it to 0:23.. and you may readjust your perception of going straight like you re telling about Leclerc..

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

I think it's time for Binotto to turn into the headmaster. Into the study and six of the best for each of them
Seriously though they hardly touched and looking at it again Lec could have easily avoided by slight turn to the left.

The competition between Charles and Sebastian is not healthy anymore . It looks like they drive in a different team.
Over the board radio is was like war from both sides....

[msk340i]

Originally Posted by yco

you ll see how wrong you re in the following days by the press my friend.. not even commenting on it.. no need..

take it to 0:23.. and you may readjust your perception of going straight like you re telling about Leclerc..

Yeah that's what I said. If he's at fault we'll still support him. If they came together again I'll also support him in running LEC off the track!

[msk340i]

Originally Posted by yco

you ll see how wrong you re in the following days by the press my friend.. not even commenting on it.. no need..

take it to 0:23.. and you may readjust your perception of going straight like you re telling about Leclerc..

Dude I rode in a land rover on track and I know how it looks and where the racing line is. Far right at that spot is NOT where Vettel should have been!
Watch VER lap and see how he goes to the middle of the track at that point.

[yco]

Originally Posted by msk340i

Yeah that's what I said. If he's at fault we'll still support him. If they came together again I'll also support him in running LEC off the track!

thanks for expressing your perception very clear my friend.. cause the problem starts with that basically.. good luck..

[msk340i]

Originally Posted by yco

thanks for expressing your perception very clear my friend.. cause the problem starts with that basically.. good luck..

The situation at Ferrari sucks and the stewards will make it worse I'm sure.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

The competition between Charles and Sebastian is not healthy anymore . It looks like they drive in a different team.
Over the board radio is was like war from both sides....

In the heat of the moment you let rip on the radio, it's human nature but afterwards it was reassuring to hear Lec calming things down and I fully expect Seb to run in tandem with that.

[msk340i]

Weirdest result this season. Gasly and Sainz top 3.

[fanatic1]

There’s no question that VET moved left