[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by Bosozoku

I wonder where North Korea got their red / white / blue ensemble from?

its a freaking star in a circle and you're thinking chuck taylors? I really do not care for the N. Koreans - actually feel bad for them. Do you really think Kim Il Sung googled logos, saw the chuck taylor logo and thought, damn! that's it!

[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by MFNATIK

My thoughts exactly hahah

I'm neutral on:

turbo vs na (prefer na but turbo has power and they try hard to rid of the lag in throttle response)
DCT vs 6MT (prefer manual but DCT is fun in my wife's car and on track)
M4 vs M3 (who cares, same car)

But absolutely not neutral on all this we need AWD whining. I say learn how to drive properly - we don't need understeer and lift off oversteer

[BEMR]

Originally Posted by hikeskool

Christ, this is embarrassing. I am physically cringing reading many of these replies. No wonder bmw owners have such a bad reputation.

At least the BMW owners for the most part are happy with what they have, were all subjective since if you didn't like what you had you'd have something else you liked.

Unfair to rate, since most of us are happy with BMW. I simply like the brand, and even if Cadillac came out with an 800hp supercharged car for the same price, I'd still choose BMW.

[Ray knight]

Notorsport package. lol.

[Yeineken]

Im all for it. If it's the bitch slap BMW and M need to wake up then it's worth it to have some competition.

[jimmiebimmer]

Originally Posted by BEMR

At least the BMW owners for the most part are happy with what they have, were all subjective since if you didn't like what you had you'd have something else you liked.

Unfair to rate, since most of us are happy with BMW. I simply like the brand, and even if Cadillac came out with an 800hp supercharged car for the same price, I'd still choose BMW.

Subjective brand loyalty is for simpletons.

Your Cadillac anecdote is another in a long line of examples of this laughably sad epidemic on this board.

[isugoo]

if they want to compete, they should bring something unique and new.
Not the similar letter to M or similar color theme as M stripes. Now it's just looks like knock off wannabe, not true M's competitor like AMG or RS (or even IPL..).

[VMRWheels]

Very interesting.. Hyundai N vs BMW M haha

At the end of the day, this kind of "competition" is great for consumers. If it's reasonably priced and comes along with all the "expertise" from the former BMW M engineer, should be a winner. Can't argue against that 10K/100,000 mile warranty haha.

[CanAutM3]

[SaMaster14]

First they made the Genesis 3.8 to 'top' Infiniti's 3.7L V6

Now... they need an N to top the M?

If the production car looks anything like the photo in the OP, it won't be an M competitor... depending on price-point it will battle the Civic Type Rs or Nissan GT-R/Juke Rs of the world. Different car for different demographic

[GuyOh]

[jimmiebimmer]

Originally Posted by isugoo

if they want to compete, they should bring something unique and new.
Not the similar letter to M or similar color theme as M stripes. Now it's just looks like knock off wannabe, not true M's competitor like AMG or RS (or even IPL..).

Are you an alphabet/linguistics scholar?

[Arcades]

When I read the article, the best expression I came up with was...

o.O and Uhhhh

[Delta0311]

Originally Posted by hikeskool

Subjective brand loyalty is for simpletons.

Your Cadillac anecdote is another in a long line of examples of this laughably sad epidemic on this board.

I find your lack of BMW brand loyalty disturbing.

[klrgoten]

Originally Posted by Delta0311

I find your lack of BMW brand loyalty disturbing.

It's all subjective... it all depends on what you want out of your driving experience.

[Diver]

Weird, and many months until April 1st.

[Bemo]

///Nah

[-The Truth]

Originally Posted by ckfraser

N? Such a blatant ripoff. Is Kia going to come out with ANG next?

[shivaswrath]

I say kudos to them!

[ilikebmxbikes]

Originally Posted by Eddien123

In terms of performance. It still isn't a better day to day car.

Not everyone wants their m3 to be a day to day car.

It was not too long ago that mustangs were leagues behind the m3's in terms of performance, now, the gt350, not only is speculated to surpass the m3 in performance, it looks awesome and is more affordable. Just wait a few more years and perhaps, Ford will have another better day-to-day car. The have already done so much in such a short amount of time.

You have to give ford credit and you have to give Hyundai credit too. Hyundai has shaped up their reputation in the past 10 years and makes some solid reliable offerings and backs them with a solid warranty.

With the right team and resources they can absolutely make a splash with this car.

[AW2015M3]

You better be ready to race them N.....

[Alumac]

Originally Posted by ilikebmxbikes

Not everyone wants their m3 to be a day to day car.

It was not too long ago that mustangs were leagues behind the m3's in terms of performance, now, the gt350, not only is speculated to surpass the m3 in performance, it looks awesome and is more affordable. Just wait a few more years and perhaps, Ford will have another better day-to-day car. The have already done so much in such a short amount of time.

You have to give ford credit and you have to give Hyundai credit too. Hyundai has shaped up their reputation in the past 10 years and makes some solid reliable offerings and backs them with a solid warranty.

With the right team and resources they can absolutely make a splash with this car.

Precisely. The M3 is not what it was. Maybe Ford or Hyundai can re-capture that magic.