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      05-24-2023, 12:46 PM   #133
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The review from autogefel stated the 6 cylinder won’t be available in the EU

Is that correct?
To be honest it doesn’t surprise me given the net zero momentum at the moment
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      05-24-2023, 12:47 PM   #134
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Speaking for myself, I would disagree. Yes, bulk of my commute is within city limits and I am lucky enough to be able to charge at home 90% of the time. However, I do travel up and down the East coast frequently and I’m usually looking to drive close to 300-350 miles for any given trip. Would I prefer to just leave home fully charged and not waste time charging/ contending for EV chargers? YES. Could I make the trip with one or two charging stops? SURE. Faced with this choice, I’ve used an IC vehicle for every single road trip since owning my EV. It’s the single reason I won’t switch to 100% EV use. If I had a vehicle to reliably give me near 350-400 miles of highway use, I would be seriously tempted to make the switch. RN, the Lucid is my only option— and it’s way too expensive, and is facing startup EV manufacturer type issues.

I’d love to hear from the community more on this.
Yeah that makes sense. I've kept my X3 for trips where there may not be many chargers along the way (this isn't really an issue along I-95 but does becomes one in western and southwestern VA).

I also kept the X3 so I can haul the 50 lb dog and go on hiking trips where the roads to the trailheads aren't very well maintained as the i4 isn't ideal for either of those things.
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      05-24-2023, 12:48 PM   #135
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Not quite as bad as the new XM but the bar has been set low lately. I just don’t understand why they’re so keen on using cheap black plastic for the front bumper in most of their new designs.

IMO a lot of these EV’s and newer vehicles are going to all look so incredibly outdated in 4-5 years. Not to mention trying to keep those shiny black plastic bits on the grill from swirl marks, rock chips and fading from weather exposure.

Agree w the other comments it looks like a 2 series GC front end but more grown up. Hopefully they give the M5 a better visual treatment. Until people start voting w their wallets tho, nothing is going to change and BMW will continue pumping out as much shit as they possibly can if ppl continue to purchase it
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      05-24-2023, 01:01 PM   #136
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Compared to many of BMW's recent designs, this is the first where I wasn't initially offended by the looks and think this will grow on people a lot more easily and quickly. As with all BMWs, this just needs a proper stance and some CF parts and will look sharp in no time.
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      05-24-2023, 01:10 PM   #137
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Too tall, looks like an X car. Also those vertical lights...

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      05-24-2023, 01:16 PM   #138
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Looks great and most likely my next M or M-performance car! I am looking forward to buying the LCI in a few years.
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      05-24-2023, 01:20 PM   #139
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As long as bmw uses same platform for EV and non EV, it’s not going to catch up with tesla.
I have to agree with you 100%! Anything that's considered and designated as a "BEV" should have a freak'n frunk!
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      05-24-2023, 01:27 PM   #140
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I’m surprised everyone is saying it reminds them of the 2GC. To me, it looks like if an X1 and X5 had a sedan baby.

I like it, for some reason all BMWs look bad in still images, but in motion and on video it’s a very handsome car. The rear doesn’t say BMW to me though, headlights are a definite step back. The current 5er’s DRL are just so handsome and agressive.

As with all BMWs, after your eyes adjust to the change people will say it’s a great looking car. Looking forward to the M5.
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      05-24-2023, 01:30 PM   #141
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This doesn’t remind me of the 2 series at all either. I think the i5 M60 doesn’t look half bad! Wish they didn’t put so much M baring all over it but it looks decent. Interested to see what the M5 will look like now..
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      05-24-2023, 01:32 PM   #142
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I guess BMW is trying to kill two birds with one stone - EV and regular 5er in one

I hope this is just a stage till we get to full EV only, maybe in the next generation. If you get the i5, it's too tall and has weird hood space, etc. If you get the regular 5er, almost the same sacrifices again. An EV sedan should have the proportions of a Tesla Model S/Porsche Taycan...the end!

If anyone shopping for an ICE mid-size luxury sedan, I think the next E-Class looks way more elegant and classy. If you are looking for the EV version, I think this is (i5) is better than EQE.

Gotta grab a G30, the last of the true long-slung BMW chassis...
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"I'd love to be able to play MarioKart in my 5er...!"

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1000 lb weight penalty to go electric. The model S is closer to the weight of the ICE versions. Why can’t the Germans cut the fat on the battery pack?
because nobody can at the minute, m8
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hoping the cup holders have covers... also does the wireless charging area look like it can charge 2 phones at once?
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      05-24-2023, 01:37 PM   #146
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because nobody can at the minute, m8
But tesla
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      05-24-2023, 01:41 PM   #147
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I will not comment on looks since it just doesn’t do it for me but they are just having a F….n laugh 😂I like the new steering wheel though.
THAT is the side-profile???
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      05-24-2023, 01:48 PM   #148
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I really love this, previously owned the 2GC & the G30 saloon, this looks like the best of both worlds design wise. Priced very well too!
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      05-24-2023, 01:50 PM   #149
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      05-24-2023, 02:04 PM   #150
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Where are the A/C vents on the dash ?
Do I not see them ?
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      05-24-2023, 02:05 PM   #151
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The skateboard battery really takes away any hope for a hunkered down, sleek aesthetic. Sad to think this tall goofy look is the new way forward. 🙈
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      05-24-2023, 02:18 PM   #152
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Where are the A/C vents on the dash ?
Do I not see them ?
They are hidden on the lower section of the dash (under the ambient touch bar) like the 7er.
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      05-24-2023, 02:21 PM   #153
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The interior is the highlight of this vehicle. Exterior styling is bland and unimaginative for 2023 premium performance vehicle. The front grille on the 60 is a horror show, confused mess of sensors and radar, the side profile follows a trend from BMW of minimalism; look at the G87. Cars look product design not styled. The side and rear continues the sleep-fest. The only element well executed is the notched hood, the rest is straight out of the Toyota school of design. BMW vehicles are much less distinctive outside than years prior, and those that are, are in a bad way. The constant evolution of the front grilles, the need to simplify or remove styling elements ( my theory is for profit ) to the point cars look ordinary may be diluting the brand and confusing current and potential BMW customers. Just look at the vast differences between each series. Little to no resemblance between the styling language of an XM, an M2 or the I5, other than a need to take away, inside and out. It feels like BMW cars of late lack soul, I don’t mean in the way they drive, but in the way the make you feel on approach or departure. Bring back sexy, muscular, innovative yet understated cars. Just another bland copy-cat car using a whatever sticks design approach.
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I had hopes for this. I really did.
The design direction overall is good. But can we stop it with the stick-on cladding?
It looks like it drove through a tar puddle and got dirty. Or dark power is taking it over and by the time LCI rolls out, it will be up to the door mirrors!

And why does it look like Cross-country / Allroad / Allterrain tall?

The front dead-on looks like a modern Skoda. That's good, because I like Skodas. But this should be a BMW.
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