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Z06 info...

[stein_325i]

A 5.5L Flat-Plane Crank and redline around 8500-9000rpm? Suddenly I'm interested in the new Corvette

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...onfirmed-2021/

[PoorLurker]

Actually looks good here!

In the video, the car's rear "quarter panel" needs some minor adjustments. It's too batwingish for me.


9000rpm v8 flat plane - drool

[5.M0NSTER]

So glad to see this Z06 will be naturally aspirated. I haven't been this excited for a car in a long while.

Now to start the process of convincing the missus that one is required.

[N54Yankee]

One mans comparison between the new Supra and Corvette.

[Mingwan]

Originally Posted by PoorLurker

Actually looks good here!

In the video, the car's rear "quarter panel" needs some minor adjustments. It's too batwingish for me.


9000rpm v8 flat plane - drool

damn, looks badass.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by jstein55

A 5.5L Flat-Plane Crank and redline around 8500-9000rpm? Suddenly I'm interested in the new Corvette

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...onfirmed-2021/

Wow. So cool. I can hear the sports car enthusiasts fapping already. 💦

[c1pher]

Originally Posted by N54Yankee

One mans comparison between the new Supra and Corvette.

I guess it makes sense to compare these two since people may also compare the Supra to a Cayman and they get compared against Corvettes. I wish this were a full fledged BMW instead of a Toyota and had more of the Z4 styling but in coupe form with an S55 motor.

[N54Yankee]

We’ve seen this young guy stretching the legs of a new C8 at Willow Springs playing with a GT3 and here’s a new one of him tangling with some other high end sports cars. Of course we don’t know the talent of all the drivers and how hard they’re pushing but a fun watch nonetheless. The Corvettes big displacement American V8 running near to top of the tach is sound I never grow tired off. Willow Springs is a very lumpy track and not easy to run fast. Guy does more then an admirable job.

[Alfisti]

God it's such a rubbish track. Cannot stand it.

[cca101]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

God it's such a rubbish track. Cannot stand it.

You are correct, the only way to have fun on this track is on a bike and you have to push at 95% to enjoy it at least a little bit. Never done it in a car but I assume it would be similar.

Also this guy looks like he can run mid 1:30s in his C8 and running around other drivers running what mid 1:40s? That is extremely slow if you know about Big willow. So this shows absolutely nothing except an average driver in a C8 passing well below average drivers in exotic cars.

[Alfisti]

You're always in a corner, near nowhere to pass. BUT i do think it gives decent feedback on a cars handling for a lot of corner types.

[cca101]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

You're always in a corner, near nowhere to pass. BUT i do think it gives decent feedback on a cars handling for a lot of corner types.

I have mixed feelings about it. If you don't go fast you don't have fun. If you go fast it's a medium amount of fun. If you go very fast it's decent fun, but crash risk factor just went up. And if you crash a bike at Big Willow might as well call the dump truck lol

Also you have to go very fast to understand handling on that track, at least on the bike. It doesn't tell you anything unless you really push. Then you're not sure what you're feeling, is it the nasty bumps? the 50mph gusts of wind pushing you off the track in turn 8? who knows

[N54Yankee]

Originally Posted by cca101

You are correct, the only way to have fun on this track is on a bike and you have to push at 95% to enjoy it at least a little bit. Never done it in a car but I assume it would be similar.

Also this guy looks like he can run mid 1:30s in his C8 and running around other drivers running what mid 1:40s? That is extremely slow if you know about Big willow. So this shows absolutely nothing except an average driver in a C8 passing well below average drivers in exotic cars.

Mid 1:30’s are very respectable lap times on the Big track. Probst and other hot shoes for example runs some very capable cars in the mid/low 1:30’s. We’re also talking about a young guy, driving a damn near new car, probably very close to bone stock and most importantly he’s not a pro.
Even 1:40’s for the other guys isn’t bad considering they’re also not pros trying to set records out there and like you said, trying not to have a wrecker haul their fancy Italian jobs away. Cut them a little slack. It’s just a fun vid, no one said the new Vette is a destroyer of supercars. We’ll wait for the Z06 for that.
https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow-springs

[Humdizzle]

yeah I don't get much from watching the track videos. Just too many variables between drivers.

Also this kid being young doesn't mean anything. Look at his youtube channel, he's been tracking for years. Bought a McLaren 600LT, has tracked a GT350R, has a 1000hp Shelby among other things. He's clearly got a lot of seat time in high hp machines around tracks.

As for the Z06. It seems VERY enticing. I would strong consider if they removed the rear trunk, added a manual, and limited production to prevent typical vette depreciation.

[cca101]

Originally Posted by N54Yankee

Mid 1:30’s are very respectable lap times on the Big track. Probst and other hot shoes for example runs some very capable cars in the mid/low 1:30’s. We’re also talking about a young guy, driving a damn near new car, probably very close to bone stock and most importantly he’s not a pro.
Even 1:40’s for the other guys isn’t bad considering they’re also not pros trying to set records out there and like you said, trying not to have a wrecker haul their fancy Italian jobs away. Cut them a little slack. It’s just a fun vid, no one said the new Vette is a destroyer of supercars. We’ll wait for the Z06 for that.
https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/willow-springs

I agree mid 1:30s isn't bad. Age of driver isn't a factor however, talent much more so. I think it's awesome that people go enjoy their fast cars on track, I don't care if they do 1:40s or 50s, they're having fun. It's just the title of the video "attacks ferraris and mclaren" ...a little misleading and doesn't mean much at all when they are running 1:40s.

It's like the Top Gear guy who drove the M3 and Tesla Model 3p at Thunderhill, running 10 seconds slower than what is considered a respectable lap time. Absolutely terrible track driving yet concludes that the Tesla is a faster car on track..nonsense

[Funf6cyl]

Automobile just did a test at Willow Springs.

Track times below from Andy Pilgrim

C8 z51 - 1:23.06 and then 1:23.00 after going out for another lap. It also has a specific track alignment.
992S - 1:22.68

The 911 won the shootout here which was no surprise.

[N54Yankee]

And the C8 beat the 992S at at Nurburgring and also at Thunderhill
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...ring-lap-time/

[Funf6cyl]

Originally Posted by N54Yankee

And the C8 beat the 992S at at Nurburgring and also at Thunderhill
https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...ring-lap-time/

Umm, no, not even close.

You’re comparing a Sport Auto time in the 992 to a factory Chevy time - not apples to apples. If I compare the 992S factory tome to C8 factory time the 992 ran a 7:25 (link below) so again c8 slower on the Ring. The sport auto time for the C8 will be 7:35-7:37 if they even let them test it knowing that they can barely beat it with a factory driver vs a one shot hot lap.

No different than how the last 991S ran 7.37 and the 991.2S ran 7:30 which were both faster than the C7 which as alluded to was only a 7:40. Also worth noting the 991.2 GTS ran 7:22 (all factory times).

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...n-previous-gen

[N54Yankee]

Originally Posted by Funf6cyl

Umm, no. You’re comparing a Sport Auto time to a factory Chevy time - not apples to apples. If I compare the 992S factory to C8 factory the 992 ran a 7:25 (link below) so again c8 slower on the Ring. The sport auto time for the C8 will be 7:35-7:37 if they even let them test it knowing that they can barely beat it with a factory driver vs a one shot hot lap.

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/...n-previous-gen

I knew you’d come back with some BS. The motor ‘authority’ link you posted says a guy SAID the 992s would run a 7:25 not that it did a 7:25. That story was from 1/19 long before the 992 ran its OFFICIAL Ring time many months later and was not a 7:25. You should take it up with the guy with the big mouth who didn’t know what he was talking about.

The C8’s OFFICIAL Ring time is listed above the 992’s because it was faster. In black and white and End of story. Official Nürburgring Times don’t lie nor make excuses. The end all Ring list that has been the final word of Ring Track Times for many years. Don’t feel bad, the Porsche did very well.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...eife_lap_times

[Funf6cyl]

Originally Posted by N54Yankee

I knew you’d come back with some BS. The motor ‘authority’ link you posted says a guy SAID the 992s would run a 7:25 not that it did a 7:25. That story was from 1/19 long before the 992 ran its OFFICIAL Ring time many months later and was not a 7:25. You should take it up with the guy with the big mouth who didn’t know what he was talking about.

The C8’s OFFICIAL Ring time is listed above the 992’s because it was faster. In black and white and End of story. Official Nürburgring Times don’t lie nor make excuses. The end all Ring list that has been the final word of Ring Track Times for many years. Don’t feel bad, the Porsche did very well.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...eife_lap_times

LOL. You’re wrong again. Porsche wouldn’t say it otherwise. So when Sport auto comes back and has a 7:35-7:37 time for the C8 compared to the 992S time where they ran 7:30 are you going to announce how wrong you were? The 991.2 GTS is already faster than the C8 and it’s a generation old car now. Do you honestly think the 992S will be slower than the 991.2S? Nope. Factory times are always faster the sport auto so the fact that the c8 from a factory driver could only do the same as a hot lap with a guy who barely has any time on the car, this time the 992S doesn’t speak well for the c8 time which will guaranteed be well slower than the 992S.

[N54Yankee]

Originally Posted by Funf6cyl

LOL. You’re wrong again. So when Sport auto comes back and has a 7:35-7:37 time for the C8 compared to the 992S time where they ran 7:30 are you going to announce how wrong you were? The 991.2 GTS is already faster than the C8 and it’s a generation old car now. Do you honestly think the 992S is slower than the 991.2S? Nope, it’s a 7:25 and the corvette is 5 seconds slower on the Ring despite having a good advantage in power to weight.

Come back and talk to me when the “newest” attempt by Porsche makes the list above the C8. Till then, you’re as delusional as the other guy spouting crap. Till then, you’re just wishing.