[1MOREMOD]

Got some crown limited, knob creek, and makers

[M_Six]

I prefer seltzer to tap water in Scotch and bourbon. Maybe it's the aeration that releases flavor. Not sure why, but even club soda works better than tap water for me.

[1MOREMOD]

Prefer just ice, but not drinking again for a while

[Graves]

Apple Crown, 1800 Silver, Jameson, and some Dewers.

[Maynard]

Originally Posted by mperfct

I'm not much of scotch drinker at this point, but I thought your comment was timely since I just read this a couple of days ago: http://lifehacker.com/scientists-pro...ste-1797988221

Someday I'll get into scotches. There is just so much good stuff out there and I'm just feeling my way around the bourbons and ryes!

Very cool article, thanks. Helps explain why it is a factor for some more than others - I find some types need a lot, but with others you can rapidly hit a 'too much' point and they become diluted tasting. I've also heard that too much alcohol stuns your taste buds, but I seldom dilute down enough that it would matter for that.

And you may want to try some of the cask-strength bourbons - Knob Creek and Wild Turkey are two that I like a lot better than their standard bottlings (but I'm not much of a bourbon/rye afficianado, I just found a few I like for those times I want s/t different from Scotch).

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by ShopVac

Only been a scotch drinker for about 9-10 months now...coming off my vodka and rum train.

Not sure if I'm ready for a heavy peated just yet...finding most of my stash if from the highlands.

What would a good intermediate be to try?

Originally Posted by Terry989

To get started with lightly peated Scotch, try some of these:

• Highland Park 15 or 18 Year Old
• Bowmore 18 Year Old
• Caol Ila
• Oban 14 or 18 Year Old
• Springbank 15 Year Old (I love this one!)

Another of my favorite regions is Speyside with distilleries such as these:

• Almost anything from Mortlach
• Aberlour (Especially A'bunadh or the 18 Year Old)
• Craigellachie
• Longmorn

I would not try the Aberlour A'bunadh unless you plan to significantly dilute. It is quite strong. I'm not used to diluting any of my scotches so it was a new experience for me. But still, it will not be in my rotation.

I would say Ardbeg is arguably lightly peated...ok, maybe medium. But it is the way they balance the scotch that makes the peat not overpowering.

I don't think I've met anything from Macallan that I haven't liked, and although it isn't peated at all, a new one that I've taken a liking to is called "Ancnoc". I would say it is a crisper / almost sweeter scotch - also from the highlands. If you can get it, I'd look into it.

It's about $80 up here, so probably $40 down there because...well I don't really know. It's not like the transportation costs are exponentially higher. I suspect its our government taking a healthy cut.

[M_Six]

Agreed, the A'bunadh will kick your butt if you're not careful.

[Terry989]

Originally Posted by M_Six

Agreed, the A'bunadh will kick your butt if you're not careful.

I always dilute my A'bunadh. I have a lot of Scotch's between 50 and 68% alcohol. I always try them first without adding water, but almost all in this alcohol range need water and benefit from it.

[M_Six]

Originally Posted by Terry989

I always dilute my A'bunadh. I have a lot of Scotch's between 50 and 68% alcohol. I always try them first without adding water, but almost all in this alcohol range need water and benefit from it.

Agreed. And in that respect, a bottle of A'bunadh can last awhile.

[TXSTYLE]

I don't ever drink much less buy anything that is not pleasant to sip or drink straight.

Way too many fantastic spirits available for that.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by TXSTYLE

I don't ever drink much less buy anything that is not pleasant to sip or drink straight.

Way too many fantastic spirits available for that.

Ignoring cask or navy strength is just silly. Many, if not most of the better spirits are not conveniently diluted to 80 proof.

[TXSTYLE]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Ignoring cask or navy strength is just silly. Many, if not most of the better spirits are not conveniently diluted to 80 proof.

Whatever butters your toast.

[imserious]

Originally Posted by Maynard

I think Oban or Lagavulin would be good to try, Caol Ila is also a bit less peaty, IIRC; if you can find the Oban Little Bay it is one of my new finds. Lagavulin 16 is one of the top tiers in e/b book, but their new 8yo is also very nice.

I tend to prefer anything 'non-chill filtered' when possible (or they will warn that it will cloud with ice - same thing). The chill filtering takes out some proteins that add flavor. And adding a dash of water is also crucial (usually just a few cc's), and something it took getting used to; most other spirits I prefer straight, even Bourbon seems to just wash out. With Scotch the water does something to activate flavors, so to me much improved - you can actually see it if you hold it up to the light.

I think lagavulin 16 is excellent but heavily peated for a newbie. I would try Highland Park 12 or 15 for an intro to this wonderful world. More smokey than peaty, and light at that, but a nice introduction nonetheless.

[TXSTYLE]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Ignoring cask or navy strength is just silly. Many, if not most of the better spirits are not conveniently diluted to 80 proof.

That wasn't a knock on you or anyone that prefers said stronger spirits. I've tried my fair share. of those too. And I guess after going through countless glasses and bottles over the years, my palate (and stomach) prefers smooth over strength.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by TXSTYLE

That wasn't a knock on you or anyone that prefers said stronger spirits. I've tried my fair share. of those too. And I guess after going through countless glasses and bottles over the years, my palate (and stomach) prefers smooth over strength.

Just saying that a stronger bottle, cut to 40% typically has a nicer flavor. In other words, you adding the water is nicer and typically cheaper than paying the distiller to do it.

[Maynard]

Originally Posted by TXSTYLE

That wasn't a knock on you or anyone that prefers said stronger spirits. I've tried my fair share. of those too. And I guess after going through countless glasses and bottles over the years, my palate (and stomach) prefers smooth over strength.

Trust me, a little water with one of these original cask-strength bottlings will be the best of both worlds (A'bunadh is one of the very best, IMHO, but there are many others starting to emerge as people catch on). If you don't water down the high-proof varieties they will stun your taste buds (this effect is universal, I think, across all spirits). Scotch also has a fairly unique 'activation' with water that really brings out more of the flavor - you are cheating yourself if you don't try them this way to see how you feel about it. Just a dash at first 'til you find the right amount - I don't usually dilute these back to 90 proof.

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Just saying that a stronger bottle, cut to 40% typically has a nicer flavor. In other words, you adding the water is nicer and typically cheaper than paying the distiller to do it.

And this is the bottom line - you are already drinking 'watered down' spirits, you just have the distillery adding the water, so you don't get to decide how much.

[M3 Number 86]

Casamigos anejofor the last half a year or so.

[UncleWede]

I just had 2 Old Fasioned with rye: Templeton and Deckel. Templeton is far better! I think better than the previous Bulleitt as well

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

I just had 2 Old Fasioned with rye: Templeton and Deckel. Templeton is far better! I think better than the previous Bulleitt as well

Technically, Dickel, Bulleit and Templeton should all taste the same, they're all made from MGP base stock.

http://www.whiskeyprof.com/rye-whisk...eburg-indiana/

[UncleWede]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Technically, Dickel, Bulleit and Templeton should all taste the same, they're all made from MGP base stock.

http://www.whiskeyprof.com/rye-whisk...eburg-indiana/

Sure kick me while I'm buzzed on Thursday afternoon

Stock might be same but flavor of Templeton was better

Doesn't Templeton also make the rum???

[Maynard]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

Since we're talking ryes, worth bringing up that many, including Bulleit are made from the same base stock.
http://www.seriouseats.com/2015/09/b...-from-mpg.html

I'm a big fan of Anchor Old Potrero, as it's younger and more crisp than many of the older and smoother alternatives.

Just read this one, and of interest was that the Angels Envy (same great base stock 95%) was aged 18 months in Plantation XO Caribbean Rum barrels. I know there are a lot of fans of that rum on here.

[Red Bread]

Yeah, resellers are certainly capable of doing things with MGP base stock before bottling it. I just tend to avoid those on the list in order to support the folks that did the leg work. Anchor makes some really good, young ryes that taste nothing like the MGP stuff.