[Wakka]

agree with previous post

[ragingclue]

Originally Posted by youngnastyman

and the fact that i partake in herbal remedies from time to time says nothing about the amount of dedication that her and I put forth into our futures.

You can't simply compare smoking weed with drinking alcohol, no matter what the statistics say. Where you're at, smoking is illegal, so a fair comparison to alcohol would be a scenario where the alcohol is part of an activity that is illegal as well.

Smoking weed doesn't necessarily tell me you've compromised your dedication to your future, but knowingly breaking the law to get your kicks isn't a good way to build your future. If you want to smoke, smoke. Go for it. You just have to realize though that you are in fact making a conscious decision that could very well negatively affect your future. Also, smoking in the car and keeping that stuff in the glove box.... C'mon man. Lesson learned, keep that shit at home or hidden away, and don't drive on that shit. You're just asking for trouble that way.

[youngnastyman]

Originally Posted by ragingclue

Smoking weed doesn't necessarily tell me you've compromised your dedication to your future, but knowingly breaking the law to get your kicks isn't a good way to build your future. If you want to smoke, smoke. Go for it. You just have to realize though that you are in fact making a conscious decision that could very well negatively affect your future. Also, smoking in the car and keeping that stuff in the glove box.... C'mon man. Lesson learned, keep that shit at home or hidden away, and don't drive on that shit. You're just asking for trouble that way.

I agree with you here. Physically, its probably not so bad. But legally is where it gets hairy. And I've known that for a while but never really took it seriously until now when its biting me in the ass.

As far as keeping it in the glove box or smoking in the car - dumb move on my part.


Ok i'm done talking about how much I f'd up now lol i'm in damage control mode now.

[ragingclue]

Originally Posted by youngnastyman

I agree with you here. Physically, its probably not so bad. But legally is where it gets hairy. And I've known that for a while but never really took it seriously until now when its biting me in the ass.

As far as keeping it in the glove box or smoking in the car - dumb move on my part.


Ok i'm done talking about how much I f'd up now lol i'm in damage control mode now.

Haha man, it's ok. It's not like you'll be going to Federal Pound-Me-In-The-Ass prison for it. Sure it may affect your career and future, and it'll probably be pretty expensive in the process, but I'd have to say I wouldn't know shit if I hadn't fucked up so much. You learn a lot going through something like this.

[CollinsE90]

No one has ever died due to marijuana. Driving high on the other hand, I'm not sure. I would assume yes, but not an often occurrence. You're either too high to even think about driving, or fine to drive. Depends on the person IMO.

[youngnastyman]

Originally Posted by ragingclue

Haha man, it's ok. It's not like you'll be going to Federal Pound-Me-In-The-Ass prison for it. Sure it may affect your career and future, and it'll probably be pretty expensive in the process, but I'd have to say I wouldn't know shit if I hadn't fucked up so much. You learn a lot going through something like this.

No.. it will not! I forbid it! Im gona continue on with my career as I originally planned.

[will.c]

I'm gonna sound a little unconventional here, but since no one here is mentioning this… covering up for your gf was a very nice and chivalrous thing to do indeed. This act might be kinda stupid for America's standards, and you might not even end up with her eventually (which, to some people, makes it even worse), but it's the principal behind such action that really determines the quality of your character and your life, importance of which is not informed quite well to the general public unfortunately. To your courage to be selfless I'd like to applaud you.

Now, that is not to say what you did was somewhat stupid considering your own future in a society which is built up on a strong legal system. IMO I still think you did the right thing (well, given the screwed up situation... you should have prevented this whole mess to begin with, but you didn't know better before, so I don't blame you too much as long as this really taught you a lesson), but it wasn't the best you could have done even after getting pulled over.

I say, the next thing you should focus, as you already seem to have realized, is how to absolutely minimize impact on your record regardless of immediate financial cost. Hell, even get a loan if you couldn't afford. My criminal record from many many years ago still lingers around because I was too lazy and too damn ignorant to have hired the best lawyer to get rid of it completely.

Following the clean-up of this mess is how you can define the "thin line" between being a “good” person and being a smart American. But this will be a long term task, as I still have yet to come to a conclusion on this, and I’d be blessed if I do by the time I have grandkids.

Sorry to make this long, and please ignore my preaching tone… I just really wanted to share my humble thoughts…

Originally Posted by chungdae

If a police officer pulls you over, man up and listen to what he has to say because he pulled you over because you broke the law. When the police officer walks up to your door, he has all the power in the world to make your life hell.

Very much agreed. A lot of the cops are just too stupid to realize the extent of their power, but on the same note, they are just simply too stupid for you to try to reason or smart-ass out of the situation on the spot. I just do what they say, kinda be honest, and even suck them up a little bit (these types of people eat that shit right up), let the lawyers do the sensible talking, and give them a (metaphorical) finger afterwards.

[Comet]

lots of captain hindsights around

Lawyer up and hope for the best...

[youngnastyman]

what i see myself doing soon to a badass lawyer

[panicos81]

Originally Posted by youngnastyman

ok and? yea the driving part was pretty stupid. but i am pretty succesful in my career so far. and the fact that i partake in herbal remedies from time to time says nothing about the amount of dedication that her and I put forth into our futures. So we like to have fun. Never has someone died or worse, killed someone else because they hung out with puff the magic dragon. Meanwhile, you have 90% of the population drinking alcohol on a regular basis, which has been PROVEN to have adverse effects on the human body (i.e. cirrhosis, alcoholism, beer goggles, and just plain retardedness).

I'm not saying that what I did is not wrong, but just because of the fact that I did it does not in any way directly relate to me not being serious and taking care of my shit.

Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to go home and drink myself retarded.

i'm sorry but maybe we have a different conception about drugs.. it may be a culture thing. i don't differentiate the affects alcohol may have when driving to those you have when driving high.. was the bad driving and arrest a result of pot or was it because she is a female driver and they can't drive well??!

and i don't have a problem with you doing drugs, i couldn't care less, its just that this kind of irresponsible behavior does not suit a successful hard working man and a female someday to become doctor. at least you could have smoke when in your house.. keep in mind that you could have killed other people in the street, reflexes tend to be slower when you take drugs right?

anw, hope it all works out for you. from your replies i can see that you realized that you did a mistake.. a mistake is a lesson.. good luck.

[youngnastyman]

to clarify - the driving was not due to the poor judgement. the woman really cant drive. we were turning onto the feeder and had a dedicated lane but she felt the need to drive 3 lanes onto the feeder.

[Maestro]

Originally Posted by youngnastyman

to clarify - the driving was not due to the poor judgement. the woman really cant drive. we were turning onto the feeder and had a dedicated lane but she felt the need to drive 3 lanes onto the feeder.

what you are really saying, she is an attractive nuisance... if you get what I mean.

[chungdae]

He did have the PC to search the car the moment it became a criminal offense. A person not consenting has something to hide.

Originally Posted by Maestro

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Yes that could have been true, but the fact the officer keep grilling the op about where it was and threatening to bring in the Dogs means the officer knew he did not have the probable cause he need. There is plenty of case law on this subject that a mere traffic stop is not enough probably cause to search a car or search a person and their property. Police know it is always easy to win their case if they lie to you and threaten you into telling them what they want to hear. Most people lose their case on their own statements.

I agree giving the police a hard time is not going to go well for you. But it will end much better if you just shut your month, do not consent to anything and get a lawyer ASAP. If you never say a thing then the police have an uphill battle of establishing probably cause.

The other reason you never say a thing or allow a search even if you believe you did nothing wrong, can you say the same for everyone who has even been in you car. Like this case, unless the op claim the drugs as his the police will assume it belongs to the owner and there is nothing you can do about it unless someone else claims it as theirs.

As a good lawyer once told me, you do not have to be an expert on the law as long as you keep your month such and never consent to anything.

[chungdae]

Originally Posted by Blayne

The officer did NOT have probable cause to search. It is illegal to have possession of weed.....not to smell like it. You really think the officer would be sitting there wasting his time, trying to talk bad to op if he had the right to search?

You are wrong.

[chungdae]

Originally Posted by Blayne

No it ain't, call up a lawyer and ask. I'm 99% certain on this.

You are wrong.

[Maestro]

Originally Posted by chungdae

He did have the PC to search the car the moment it became a criminal offense. A person not consenting has something to hide.

I am telling it is never in your best interest to let anyone search your property. Not because you have nothing to hide, it is the mere fact that you can not be 100% sure that someone else didn't leave something behind which is not yours. This advise is not mine this comes from lawyers who deal with this stuff every day. This is what police want you to believe if you have nothing to hide why not allow them to search it is like asking you when you stop beating your wife. It all in how they word the questions that gets you into trouble.

A criminal lawyer will tell you if the Officer truly has PC he can easily get a warrant only when they believe that evidence will be distorted will they proceed with a search without consent or a warrant. So if you ever get stop and you think the office has PC then ask him to get a warrant and watch what happens.

I personally read enough case laws where lawyers got their druggy or DUI client off the charges because the traffic stop in the first place was not legal, they failed to prove they had PC and then they followed up with a search without having PC and attempted to use the mere fact they stop the person for a traffic stop as PC to conduct a search even after the person said it was okay. Police are not educated on the law, actually they do not want the police knowing the law, that is why most time police are given the benefit of the doubt and give broad discretion and the let the courts and lawyers sort it out

This stuff is not clear cut as people think and thus the reason to shut up and lawyer up. Police are not your friends anymore and if you are interacting with an officer most likely it is not a going to be a good thing.

I am only sharing so people do not act dumb and assume they will be okay just because they think they have nothing to hide, you may not but it will cost you big $$ to get out of a mess like the Op here.

[slo_guy]

I got busted for something on the same level as you did at around the same age. I hired a very good local attorney and got it dropped to a misdemeanor. I got it expunged. I never have problems finding other jobs since AND I've worked at major places that do extensive background checks.

No need to think life is over.

[ideliver]

Originally Posted by ABQ325i

There has never been a fatal accident caused by someone driving high? I find that a little hard to believe.

you can't kill someone when you are going 5 miles an hour

[Luong]

So... we got pix of said girl yet?

[justinnum1]

Get a very good lawyer, its worth the money even if its $10,000

[CollinsE90]

If you're going to carry in a car, I would suggest a titanium Space Case capsule. $25 and crush proof, water proof, air proof, and smell proof.

[JP720]

Am I the only one who doesn't want a future doctor smoking weed?