[bdkevoIX]

Originally Posted by PaCman328

just look at those pictures the outside looks like a 5 series, and then look at the gauge cluster, that just pisses me off , it makes me soo mad that a cheap ass japanese company can copy the looks of bmw, I HATE JAPAN

And yet you drive a 328i, which is a lower line of BMW.

This reminds me of a Porsche Boxster ( no S ) owner bashing on how horrible BMW 3series is.

[gonzo]

I went to look at the Genesis this morning. They only had the 6 bangers and said the 8 would be a few more months. Outside..meh. Nothing spectacular but still attractive. The interior..nice. Very comfortable seats, lots of room and the dash passed my bang it with a closed fist test. Very solid feeling and sounding. Heated and cooled seats...very nice.
Bottom line w/o driving. Good value for the money from what I saw.

[Spec 1]

I'll write a full report later but I also checked out the Genesis this weekend and was VERY impressed!

PS: Test drove too!

[chuck92103]

Be wary of a car company that sells one aspect of a vehicle via advertising. It usually means they skimped in other places.

With a BMW you get a great engine, power train, brakes, steering, seats, and suspension. All components are top of the line and designed to perform under extreme conditions.

BMW's are all about overall performance.

[vAnt826]

Originally Posted by chuck92103

Be wary of a car company that sells one aspect of a vehicle via advertising. It usually means they skimped in other places.

With a BMW you get a great engine, power train, brakes, steering, seats, and suspension. All components are top of the line and designed to perform under extreme conditions.

BMW's are all about overall performance.

Like how BMW skimped on iDrive and HPFP?

[iheartsole]

thyr're trying to make their cars look more luxurious. i would rather buy a toyota prius. haha

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by chuck92103

Be wary of a car company that sells one aspect of a vehicle via advertising. It usually means they skimped in other places.

With a BMW you get a great engine, power train, brakes, steering, seats, and suspension. All components are top of the line and designed to perform under extreme conditions.

BMW's are all about overall performance.

Well of course it is not a BMW. It also does not carry BMW's high price. For 40K people can get into a solid car with mucho amenities and a strong warranty. The Alan Greenspan types will be all over it while the Donald Trump types will be on the BMW if you will. The car will appeal to people who could care less what the badge is IMO.

[louz4]

I'm a Donald Trump type? Well I guess if the comb over fits.

[BK]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Well of course it is not a BMW. It also does not carry BMW's high price. For 40K people can get into a solid car with mucho amenities and a strong warranty. The Alan Greenspan types will be all over it while the Donald Trump types will be on the BMW if you will. The car will appeal to people who could care less what the badge is IMO.

Maybe this guy can finally get the car he wanted:
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/07/05/c...as-a-hyundai/4

[StewtheBassman]

Originally Posted by BK

Maybe this guy can finally get the car he wanted:
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/07/05/c...as-a-hyundai/4

Overhaulin' swiped the car and that was the best they could do lol!!

[Malky]

I like the way it looks inside and out. I would drefinitely try one out if I was in the market for a $40k 4dr car.

[ska///235i]

anyone that actaul believes in this ranking/rating reports are nuts.

Originally Posted by gonzo

07 Rankings.
INITIAL QUALITY RANKINGS

Nameplate Problems per 100 vehicles

Porsche 91

Lexus 94

Lincoln 100

Honda 108

Mercedes-Benz 111

Jaguar 112

Toyota 112

Mercury 113

Infiniti 117

Ford 120

Scion 123

Hyundai 125

Kia 125

Industry Average 125

Buick 127

Chevrolet 129

Volvo 129

Acura 130

GMC 131

Nissan 132

Saturn 132

BMW 133

Pontiac 133

Saab 133

Subaru 133

Cadillac 135

Audi 136

Chrysler 151

Suzuki 153

Mitsubishi 155

Dodge 156

Volkswagen 160

Jeep 161

Hummer 162

Mazda 163

Land Rover 170

Source: J.D. Power

[TK-421]

I'm sorry, but I may be one of the few who think like this when I say if I want luxury I'll buy it when I can afford it (German), but if I can't afford it I'll stick with a utility-driven car.

Bottom line: I believe it's contradicting when you drive a Hyundai luxury car.

[E82tt6]

Awesome, IMO. Competition is fantastic.

The E46 got smacked around a bit by the G35, and we ended up with a 335 that performs on par with the last M3, heh.

[gonzo]

Originally Posted by ska

anyone that actaul believes in this ranking/rating reports are nuts.

What is not to believe? The data it is not just made up. So the Land Rover line could in fact be better in initial quality than Porsche?

Actually, these.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by news 4 u

I'm sorry, but I may be one of the few who think like this when I say if I want luxury I'll buy it when I can afford it (German), but if I can't afford it I'll stick with a utility-driven car.

Bottom line: I believe it's contradicting when you drive a Hyundai luxury car.

Luxury is not a brand, it is the components that make up the brand and this car has all the components of a luxury vehicle. German does not equate to instant luxury.

[BK]

Originally Posted by Neil

German does not equate to instant luxury.

Blasphemy! All German cars are luxurious.

[gonzo]

Don't leave out the ultra luxurious Opel Calibra.

[Deda]

hyundai..no thanks!

[Gearcraft]

wow. this is still alive. why wont anyone just drive one in a track against a 5?

[SDTopless]

for the record, Hyundai is a korean company

[Epik]

The Coupe version.