[NYG]

If any other company released this everyone would laugh themselves to death. Tesla sausage riding is reaaaal.

[Conissah]

Originally Posted by NYG

If any other company released this everyone would laugh themselves to death. Tesla sausage riding is reaaaal.

I said it in a different Tesla thread, but the majority of their sales model is brand image / exclusivity. I have it, and you don't / cant afford it. The hype train for Tesla is unreal.

[Mintsopoulos]

I dont mind the looks of it at all. In fact, I kinda like it. Its different...and I think it opens the doors for companies like lucid, nikola, rivian and possibly some chinese manufacturers to push design towards this "utilitarian" image.

I look of Nuerons take on the pick...I think were going to have some badass looking EV Pickups in the following years.

[dreamingat30fps]

If you want to show off while you take your jetski or boat to the water down the street I'm sure it's a fine "truck". If you want to haul a 32 foot RV across the country multiple times like I use my truck for, then it's completely useless. Not only am I sure the range will be greatly diminished under load, good luck going to charge that thing with a 32' trailer behind you.

Bullet proof, metal glass, tug of war with an F150... this is all useless marketing nonsense. Although people eat it up. Personally I would rather see Tesla focus on a small number of skus than waste time with nonsense like this truck.

I want to see a sub $30k car (before tax credits) with 350+ mile range. I want to see some real advancement in their self driving tech (I was not very impressed with my friends model 3 self driving). I want to see better build quality. Not a useless truck. Hopefully all those $100 deposits can fund some of the latter.

[bimmer456]

Not Ford vs Ferrari but Ford vs Tesla

https://nypost.com/2019/11/26/ford-v...urce=applenews

[dreamingat30fps]

Originally Posted by bimmer456

Not Ford vs Ferrari but Ford vs Tesla

https://nypost.com/2019/11/26/ford-v...urce=applenews

[bimmer456]

Originally Posted by dreamingat30fps

They should have pitted the 2WD ford against a 2WD cyber truck.

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by joshuastein55

Most people are referencing the Model X towing videos on youtube for range. I believe the one I've seen most referenced is from TFL.

There is another Model X video where they set out to drive from Colorado to Oregon pulling a small pop up 2k lbs trailer. They eventually just turn around and go get their Power Wagon from their fleet to complete the trip. Towing 14k lbs will produce an abysmal range on this cybertruck.

[hellrotm]

Originally Posted by Conissah

I said it in a different Tesla thread, but the majority of their sales model is brand image / exclusivity. I have it, and you don't / cant afford it. The hype train for Tesla is unreal.

You can lease a Tesla for $399/month. They are highly affordable and offer zero exclusivity.

[dreamingat30fps]

Originally Posted by bimmer456

They should have pitted the 2WD ford against a 2WD cyber truck.

My point is that it's a useless test. What are you ultimately proving? Strap a trailer to the back of them and head out on a 1000 mile road trip THEN tell me which performed better? Which was more convenient? More comfortable? Those are things that matter. Not if it can pull an F150 in a tug of war. I've driven a lot of miles in my truck, all over the country, not once was I faced with a tug of war.

Originally Posted by hellrotm

You can lease a Tesla for $399/month. They are highly affordable and offer zero exclusivity.

I'm sure a base BMW or Mercedes is the same, people still buy them for the badge. That being said... if you want an electric car I think it's hard to beat the model 3. I also think other manufacturers are starting to release more compelling options.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by hellrotm

You can lease a Tesla for $399/month. They are highly affordable and offer zero exclusivity.

The Model 3 even at $399/month and $20 in electricity/month is not cheaper than a Honda Accord with the added fuel cost. The Honda is a nicer car all around.

For a lot of us, like me, the place I like to get away from tech is when I drive. The Model 3 shoves the tech right in your face, you can't turn it off. It's a goddamned cell phone with a seat and wheels.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by dreamingat30fps

I have to say, when you see it next to an F150, it looks a bit better than on the stage with Musk in his cool black Tee. I'm thinking this truck will not become a Texas Cadillac; not enough headroom for a 10-gallon hat.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

I have to say, when you see it next to an F150, it looks a bit better than on the stage with Musk in his cool black Tee. I'm thinking this truck will not become a Texas Cadillac; not enough headroom for a 10-gallon hat.

+1. Cadillac countryboys still want to look the part.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by F32Fleet

+1. Cadillac countryboys still want to look the part.

I really enjoyed the physics lesson video. I think the Tesla truck will win over Honda Ridgeline owners. Hopefully there is room in the bedspace for a Ridgeline-style bed-trunk and Tesla puts one in it. And if the tailgate opens both horizontally and vertically.

But the country boys in my neck of the woods who run American and Dixie Flags out of the stake holes are not going to buy this truck. All and all out of the approximately 3 million light-duty truck sales per year, I'm not seeing a disruptive change with the cybertruck (stupid name BTW). Honda should be worried, not Ford/Chevy/Dodge.

[Efthreeoh]

Where in the hell to you mount the gun rack?

[Conissah]

Originally Posted by hellrotm

You can lease a Tesla for $399/month. They are highly affordable and offer zero exclusivity.

Image is everything, we all know that. You didn't fool anyone by picking the cheapest Model 3 offered with no AP. Adding AP brings that lease up to $496 a month. The base car alone is 14% above the average new car price in the US, adding AP increases that gap up to 34%. I stand by my original statement, for whatever most reason people (not car people) nowadays equate driving a Tesla to being wealthy.

[MADBMWX5MC]

Originally Posted by Conissah

Image is everything, we all know that. You didn't fool anyone by picking the cheapest Model 3 offered with no AP. Adding AP brings that lease up to $496 a month. The base car alone is 14% above the average new car price in the US, adding AP increases that gap up to 34%. I stand by my original statement, for whatever most reason people (not car people) nowadays equate driving a Tesla to being wealthy.

Definitely that's the case in the Northern Virginia area...

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Where in the hell to you mount the gun rack?

Or place your <gun manufacturer> stickers?

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Conissah

Image is everything, we all know that. You didn't fool anyone by picking the cheapest Model 3 offered with no AP. Adding AP brings that lease up to $496 a month. The base car alone is 14% above the average new car price in the US, adding AP increases that gap up to 34%. I stand by my original statement, for whatever most reason people (not car people) nowadays equate driving a Tesla to being wealthy.

And the thing is so far from a luxury car. I've been in one 3 times. The rear seat is a joke. The interior, while clean and neat, is not luxurious. The human-fetch feature is still in Beta; seriously, just walk to the thing and get in it, LOL.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by F32Fleet

Or place your <gun manufacturer> stickers?

Or the "Coexist" bumper sticker.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by dreamingat30fps

I want to see a sub $30k car (before tax credits) with 350+ mile range. I want to see some real advancement in their self driving tech (I was not very impressed with my friends model 3 self driving). I want to see better build quality. Not a useless truck. Hopefully all those $100 deposits can fund some of the latter.

May I add: a normal dashboard without a giant telescreen; grille in the front; and just a simple RWD sub-6 second car.

[dreamingat30fps]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

For a lot of us, like me, the place I like to get away from tech is when I drive. The Model 3 shoves the tech right in your face, you can't turn it off. It's a goddamned cell phone with a seat and wheels.

While I'm not opposed to tech in the car (and I do like a lot of the self driving tech and over the air updates Tesla does). I do just find the interior of the Tesla rather bland. It's not super comfortable, definitely not luxurious (even in the top models) and by having nothing but that center display it means everything takes several taps to accomplish.

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

May I add: a normal dashboard without a giant telescreen; grille in the front; and just a simple RWD sub-6 second car.

Yeah I'm not a fan of the one center screen, although if it was under $30k with 350+ range I could understand it as a cost savings.