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Originally Posted by Ossian

One other related point - the ventilated seats in my G30 were so useless that I almost never turned them on - it felt like they just blew warm air. The M60 ventilated seats feel cooled and are a noticeable relief on hot days. I had what was probably the first 530e to land in the US, so maybe they fixed this in later MY's but man was cabin cooling of all types bad in my G30....

My i5 M60 had the best ventilated seats in any BMW I have ever had. They actually did almost feel cooled like Jaguar-Land Rover and Ford-Lincoln.

Ventilated seats in the iX and i7....average at best! How can they be so great in the new i5 and not great in the iX and i7?

When I had my i5 M60, I actually had to turn the vented seats down or off after a few mins, as I felt chilled (and I run very hot usually).

[magbarn]

Originally Posted by Ossian

One other related point - the ventilated seats in my G30 were so useless that I almost never turned them on - it felt like they just blew warm air. The M60 ventilated seats feel cooled and are a noticeable relief on hot days. I had what was probably the first 530e to land in the US, so maybe they fixed this in later MY's but man was cabin cooling of all types bad in my G30....

Nah, they never fixed them. All G30 vented seats are trash. Glad to hear that the G60 fixes that. I did a Turo recently on an IS500 and the ventilated seats on that were awesome compared to the G30.

[Ossian]

Originally Posted by magbarn

Nah, they never fixed them. All G30 vented seats are trash. Glad to hear that the G60 fixes that. I did a Turo recently on an IS500 and the ventilated seats on that were awesome compared to the G30.

Yeah, that was another annoying factor -- we had an old Lexus RX at the same time and the seats in that thing felt fully air conditioned. I'm not sure what BMW is doing different now, but it is definitely cool air being blown.

[jha96]

Originally Posted by BimmerLCI

Checkout my nightdrive video on the G60 530i. The interior is quite mundane with little to desire. I’m really concerned with bmw and it’s cheap plastic interior on surfaces that should be leather such as the steering airbag, dash board, door cards etc. lack of ambient lighting compare to the G30, this new 5er is such a disappointment. For contrast my highly spec X3 G01 has nicely finished window switches almost feeling like aluminum, everything you feel and touch is weighted and feels like BMW quality. On this G60 everything is lightweight and plastic no tactile feel. What irks me the most is the comfort access. Again a 23 X3 LCI has 4 door comfort access, the G60 5er only has it on the front door. Some really good options were the driver assist professional and parking assistance, really good features worked great, camera quality is so crisp you can see cracks in the road through the front or rear camera. Again this is a 530i basic spec but it’s such a lazy attempt at a 5er level bmw

For what it's worth, I really like my G60 and my last BMW was a 2021 M8 GC Competition.

[nick380]

Originally Posted by Scrapula

You can set favorites. Just press and hold add to favorites. Swipe down from the top of the screen and all your favorites are there. I also set a gesture for things I use often. For example, I point 2 fingers to bring up parking, so I can use the cameras.

As for organization, you can press vehicle or infotainment to narrow down what is on the screen. Once you are done setting your initial drive preferences, you will rarely need to go into vehicle settings. You will rarely use the infotainment as well, unless you are parked and want to watch videos. The musical note brings up all your music choices. Once you set the few things that you need as favorites, you won’t ever need to scroll through iDrive.

Fair. The ease of that function and the delivery of it is lackluster at best. Given it's a simple press and hold of the quick select buttons BMW has had for over a decade now. I will have to check if mine has the gesture control, as I use it daily in my F90. I don't even have to touch anything for that, which is nice. This is showing again, trying to reinvent something that never needed reinventing all for the sake of "modernization". They don't cater to their audience anymore, and it shows. There is a different demographic targeted now. Look at Mercedes and the EQS and how that turned out.

I know of the selecting vehicle settings, etc. It's not about that. It's the fact everything is now based on this display, if the display has any issues you are out of luck for what is 90% of the cars interior features. This is not the case with the prior generation. I would agree, you definitely could get used to it, but does that in the end make it okay? Does it make it a great design? An improvement over the last generation? I would argue no. Because it is lazy, it's not original, and looking back at how BMW pioneered the ID system. Sad.

And we're only talking purely the ID8.5 system. The car itself leaves a lot to be desired.

[Neusser]

Originally Posted by PsychDoc

There may be mixed opinions on the overall looks of the G60 and the interior appointments but as a vehicle it's supremely smooth and powerful (540xi) and is infinitely superior to the outgoing G30 in its driving dynamics and overall refinement.

It sits higher and is heavier. Inherent dynamics cannot be better by definition.

The G30/31 has top-shelf dynamics, unless you take the M550, which is an understeery pig with Audi-like weight on the nose in the heavier configs.

The G60 is a compromised platform, but set up stiffer to help hide it.