F1 2021: British GP - Silverstone (July 18)

Killed by Death · 07-23-2021, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbarton62

One quick post, although I said I was done.
VER now knows where he stands as I said on the weekend.
HAM has laid down the gauntlet, push and you will be pushed back. Continue doing so at your own peril VER.
7x WDC's don't come without extensive intelligence and knowledge behind the wheel of a car and psychologically beating their opponents.

Carry on.

Bro, stay, it isn't that bad with more fun to come hopefully

I'll finally give my brief take that will probably piss off everyone.

HAM substantially came inside Max.
Max knew he was there.
Both gave each other room at first.
HAM came in too hot and braked first.
HAM left Max's view
Max though HAM conceded and turned in.
Max ALMOST got away with it.

At that speed I don't believe either driver intended to bang wheels or crash the other intentionally.

Honestly neither wouldn't want to be responsible for the death of the other!!! Nobody would want to live with that!!! Believe me, I know!!!

IMHO

First lap racing incident leaning toward HAM coming in too hot. Everybody jumps on my boy LEC for that.

Penalty? IDK

Disclimer: Personal Opinion not intended to further discussion or reignite forum war!!!

However, all flames accepted!

fiveohwblow · 07-23-2021, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MKSixer

Bad sportsmanship, aggressive driving, and the like isn't exciting. Since when is bad behavior something to be admired?

Hip hop culture
Current athletes, some not all
2020 riots

I could go on where the rest of the world admires it, not I. You know this already. It sells.

Steeler · 07-23-2021, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Bro, stay, it isn't that bad with more fun to come hopefully

I'll finally give my brief take that will probably piss off everyone.

HAM substantially came inside Max.
Max knew he was there.
Both gave each other room at first.
HAM came in too hot and braked first.
HAM left Max's view
Max though HAM conceded and turned in.
Max ALMOST got away with it.

At that speed I don't believe either driver intended to bang wheels or crash the other intentionally.

Honestly neither wouldn't want to be responsible for the death of the other!!! Nobody would want to live with that!!! Believe me, I know!!!

IMHO

First lap racing incident leaning toward HAM coming in too hot. Everybody jumps on my boy LEC for that.

Penalty? IDK

Disclimer: Personal Opinion not intended to further discussion or reignite forum war!!!

However, all flames accepted!

I can accept some of that.
Kudos for your candor.

GuidoK · 07-23-2021, 06:21 PM

I'm eager to see what happens in Hungary.

I don't know what the fastest corner on the Hungaroring is but I bet that's where VER will accidentally touch HAM rear wheel.
Drift a little bit from the inside out, not quite following the racing line....
Too bad that there aren't any 300kph corners there....

MKSixer · 07-23-2021, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiveohwblow

Hip hop culture
Current athletes, some not all
2020 riots

I could go on where the rest of the world admires it, not I. You know this already. It sells.

Where do you think hip hop culture sells? I'm asking this seriously.

Killed by Death · 07-23-2021, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuidoK

I'm eager to see what happens in Hungary.

I don't know what the fastest corner on the Hungaroring is but I bet that's where VER will accidentally touch HAM rear wheel.
Drift a little bit from the inside out, not quite following the racing line....

Eager here also but don't think Max will throw away his WDC chance this early.
In all reality the Sliverstone shunt should have sent both cars spinning into a huge pile of metal and carbon fiber. I'll say one thing, MB makes one hell of a tough car.

MKSixer · 07-23-2021, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuidoK

I'm eager to see what happens in Hungary.

I don't know what the fastest corner on the Hungaroring is but I bet that's where VER will accidentally touch HAM rear wheel.
Drift a little bit from the inside out, not quite following the racing line....
Too bad that there aren't any 300kph corners there....

He does have practice in this...
Stroll and GREAT post crash commentary from Verstappen. #ohtheirony

MKSixer · 07-23-2021, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Ode doesn't bode well.

Everyone is a critic!!

GuidoK · 07-23-2021, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MKSixer

He does have practice in this...
Stroll and GREAT post crash commentary from Verstappen. #ohtheirony

There is of course quite a bit of difference (about 3m room difference)
But you have to be able to open your eyes to see it....

Steeler · 07-23-2021, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuidoK

I'm eager to see what happens in Hungary.

I don't know what the fastest corner on the Hungaroring is but I bet that's where VER will accidentally touch HAM rear wheel.
Drift a little bit from the inside out, not quite following the racing line....
Too bad that there aren't any 300kph corners there....

That's where the aforementioned extensive intelligence and knowledge behind the wheel comes in.
Not the first time he has had drivers trying to dethrone him. Won't be the last.
I don't see HAM putting himself in that position.

We shall see.

MKSixer · 07-23-2021, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuidoK

There is of course quite a bit of difference (about 3m room difference)
But you have to be able to open your eyes to see it....

And the excuses begin...

Obviously Max is wrong here...yes?

GuidoK · 07-23-2021, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dbarton62

I don't see HAM putting himself in that position.

I also don't see that because for VER to hit HAM rear tyre with his front tyre, HAM has to drive in front. Not gonna happen

Steeler · 07-23-2021, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuidoK

I also don't see that because for VER to hit HAM rear tyre with his front tyre, HAM has to drive in front. Not gonna happen

Guido, you been listening to dumb n dumber on here too much. You are better than that. I know that as fact.

rwheels · 07-23-2021, 06:51 PM

racerbruce · 07-23-2021, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuidoK

I'm eager to see what happens in Hungary.

I don't know what the fastest corner on the Hungaroring is but I bet that's where VER will accidentally touch HAM rear wheel.
Drift a little bit from the inside out, not quite following the racing line....
Too bad that there aren't any 300kph corners there....

You must be VER's defense attorney from the law offices of Dewey Cheatem & How

GuidoK · 07-23-2021, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbarton62

Guido, you been listening to dumb n dumber on here too much.

MAybe, but I still think VER is going to dominate the hungary GP. All weekend.
So I think VER gets the pole, has a good start and HAM will not see him again till after the race.

Last race has shown that HAM now only can win by taking very high risks in overtaking VER.

Look at the difference in where he drives when overtaking LEC and when trying to overtake VER (resulting in crashing him)"

VErstappen - Hamilton

Leclerc - Hamilton:

So this completely shows that HAM could have been about 1,5m to the right when overtaking VER.
But he wasn't.
And why not? Isn't HAM the best and most consistent driver?
This is the proof that he came in way too hot. The FIA already said that HAM didn't keep a racing line towards the apex.
He was thàt desperate before his home audience. He knew that if he didn't put his attack here he wouldn't see VER again.
VER left enough room for HAM, but HAM needed to keep more speed than he could handle therefore he went wide, missed the apex and couldnt use the room that was left for hem like he could with LEC.

So indeed I don't think VER is going to take unnecessary risks. He doesn't need to. He's faster ATM.

Steeler · 07-23-2021, 06:53 PM

Maybe, time will tell.

minn19 · 07-23-2021, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GuidoK

MAybe, but I still think VER is going to dominate the hungary GP. All weekend.
So I think VER gets the pole, has a good start and HAM will not see him again till after the race.

This definitely could happen. It’ll be interesting to see how he rebounds mentally. He’s been around long enough and had some big crashes but not like this one was. That would rattle anyone.

I was disappointed that we didn’t get to see if the MB updates would’ve closed some of the gap or not with RB. Qualifying pace looked good but obviously the sprint didn’t as Max checked out. Would’ve liked to see it over the entire race. We’ll hopefully find out in Hungary.

tdott · 07-23-2021, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Bro, stay, it isn't that bad with more fun to come hopefully

I'll finally give my brief take that will probably piss off everyone.

HAM substantially came inside Max.
Max knew he was there.
Both gave each other room at first.
HAM came in too hot and braked first.
HAM left Max's view
Max though HAM conceded and turned in.
Max ALMOST got away with it.

At that speed I don't believe either driver intended to bang wheels or crash the other intentionally.

Honestly neither wouldn't want to be responsible for the death of the other!!! Nobody would want to live with that!!! Believe me, I know!!!

IMHO

First lap racing incident leaning toward HAM coming in too hot. Everybody jumps on my boy LEC for that.

Penalty? IDK

Disclimer: Personal Opinion not intended to further discussion or reignite forum war!!!

However, all flames accepted!

That is an intelligent take on things. I have no problems with that.

EdM5 · 07-23-2021, 07:17 PM

Change of subject. I'm a bit worried that two upcoming classic GPs could be cancelled.
I'm talking about the Belgian GP (29th of August) and Dutch GP (5th of September). Both are obviously Max home advantage events.

First of all, the COVID situation in the Netherlands is looking real bad. The government decided to restart nightlife and infections cases have gone through the roof ever since. Although healthcare is still under control, NL is now performing by far worst of any country on the European COVID charts. New measures have now been put in place and large scale events are banned until at least`August 14th. The window between 14 August and September 5 is very small and I am quite pessimistic about it.
As the Belgian GP is visited by vast numbers of Dutch fans this might also be a problem.

///M Power-Belgium what's your take on the situation concerning the Belgian GP?

GuidoK · 07-23-2021, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EdM5

Change of subject. I'm a bit worried that two upcoming classic GPs could be cancelled.
I'm talking about the Belgian GP (29th of August) and Dutch GP (5th of September). Both are obviously Max home advantage events.

First of all, the COVID situation in the Netherlands is looking real bad. The government decided to restart nightlife and infections cases have gone through the roof ever since. Although healthcare is still under control, NL is now performing by far worst of any country on the European COVID charts. New measures have now been put in place and large scale events are banned until at least`August 14th. The window between 14 August and September 5 is very small and I am quite pessimistic about it.
As the Belgian GP is visited by vast numbers of Dutch fans this might also be a problem.

But they estimate that medio august everyone will be vaccinated in the Netherlands. And I expect the same for Belgium, I think they're even a little bit ahead from the Netherlands regarding vaccination.
So most people will be vaccinated for at least 2 weeks when the Belgian GP starts.

Also these are outside events. I don't know if they're going to differentiate between that. (I guess nobody knows that; looking even 1 month ahead is impossible in these crazy times..)

Bongoxxx · 07-23-2021, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Wolff ,yesterday :
"Currently Bottas remains the second driver at Mercedes" !

In the last races Valtteri did a great job by supporting Lewis .

Well , I was thinking : What has Bottas actually done in the previous seasons while he was HAM's lapdog ?

Good lord ! I LMFAO !!!

I'm pretty sure , Wolff thinks we are idiots !

What has Bottas done as HAM’s “lapdog” as you say?

Apparently nothing….well only finished higher than MAX in WDC standings in 2017, 2019 and 2020

What does that make MAX?
Bottas’s b**ch!

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