[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

The best has won today . No doubt , AMEN !
MAX had zero chance today , even with a second pitstop it was not possible for him to keep up with HAMS pace .

Without our 2 drivers ...There wouldn't be a race today !

Agreed!
This was the best race of the season!! Ferrari and it's two drivers were nowhere today. It's sad.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

Agreed!
This was the best race of the season!! Ferrari and it's two drivers were nowhere today. It's sad.

From today 33/44

[yco]

they have such respect to each other that it can be seen vividly on track as well.. i hope it continues all the way to the end.. its not like that between Vettel and Max.. though Vettel is a weird personality that he is over friendly when everyone can see his eyes, and on track its the opposite.. its not because he s a hardcore fighter, more likely there is some insincerity among his radio calls, talks, and behaviors somewhere in the overall picture.. like he s telling "im a racing driver, i need an excuse for everything.." sometimes those excuses become unreal and pretty funny..

Alonso wasnt a respectful man at some point as well that i guess its his weakest point and for me it was the reason his career ended in such a way.. any team he joined he left some damage to himself and the team.. and Nico.. oh boy i can not even stand hearing his voice.. a lollipop or Siri is a lot more sincere than Nico..

respect on track comes personality and being earned on track.. one of the reasons why Hamilton is one of the best of all time.. and Max got into this shape in recent 1-1.5 years also.. which makes him a better racing driver that we can see clearly also recently.. Bottas after winning more races became a bit arrogant or i should say ego boosted and lost his respect to Hamilton a bit.. which is absurd cause he needs a looot more than he thinks.. and actually he started losing in recent 3-4 races.. cause when you respect to someones competitiveness you respect to him and more importantly to yourself also that takes you one step higher even if it may look the opposite from outside..

[Bartledoo]

Originally Posted by yco

they have such respect to each other that it can be seen vividly on track as well.. i hope it continues all the way to the end.. its not like that between Vettel and Max.. though Vettel is a weird personality that he is over friendly when everyone can see his eyes, and on track its the opposite.. its not because he s a hardcore fighter, more likely there is some insincerity among his radio calls, talks, and behaviors somewhere in the overall picture.. like he s telling "im a racing driver, i need an excuse for everything.." sometimes those excuses become unreal and pretty funny..

Alonso wasnt a respectful man at some point as well that i guess its his weakest point and for me it was the reason his career ended in such a way.. any team he joined he left some damage to himself and the team.. and Nico.. oh boy i can not even stand hearing his voice.. a lollipop or Siri is a lot more sincere than Nico..

respect on track comes personality and being earned on track.. one of the reasons why Hamilton is one of the best of all time.. and Max got into this shape in recent 1-1.5 years also.. which makes him a better racing driver that we can see clearly also recently.. Bottas after winning more races became a bit arrogant or i should say ego boosted and lost his respect to Hamilton a bit.. which is absurd cause he needs a looot more than he thinks.. and actually he started losing in recent 3-4 races.. cause when you respect to someones competitiveness you respect to him and more importantly to yourself also that takes you one step higher even if it may look the opposite from outside..

You can't possibly think Lewis is being genuine all the time...

[///M Power-Belgium]

I heard the on-board radio (team-radio) communication from MAX...
MAX was requesting tires....I need fresh tires ?!?! My tires guys ?!?! I can not finish the race with these tires !!!
MAX how's the balance ? Not good ! I'm losing grip all the time ! My tires are completely F.... !

And finally he said....Now it's too late guys !!!!

Actually it was heartbraking , to hear it from MAX !
To me it was a big RB pitstop mistake from Horner !
RB pitstop strategy really s@cked ....

[Poiseuille]

Originally Posted by Bartledoo

You can't possibly think Lewis is being genuine all the time...

actually, i do think that.

however, i can see how the consistency of Lewi5's behavior might arouse suspicion.
i just choose to believe he's the real deal.

(sending royalty check to MKSixer for use of the expression 'Lewi5')

[Poiseuille]

Originally Posted by yco

they have such respect to each other that it can be seen vividly on track as well.. i hope it continues all the way to the end.. its not like that between Vettel and Max.. though Vettel is a weird personality that he is over friendly when everyone can see his eyes, and on track its the opposite.. its not because he s a hardcore fighter, more likely there is some insincerity among his radio calls, talks, and behaviors somewhere in the overall picture.. like he s telling "im a racing driver, i need an excuse for everything.." sometimes those excuses become unreal and pretty funny..

Alonso wasnt a respectful man at some point as well that i guess its his weakest point and for me it was the reason his career ended in such a way.. any team he joined he left some damage to himself and the team.. and Nico.. oh boy i can not even stand hearing his voice.. a lollipop or Siri is a lot more sincere than Nico..

respect on track comes personality and being earned on track.. one of the reasons why Hamilton is one of the best of all time.. and Max got into this shape in recent 1-1.5 years also.. which makes him a better racing driver that we can see clearly also recently.. Bottas after winning more races became a bit arrogant or i should say ego boosted and lost his respect to Hamilton a bit.. which is absurd cause he needs a looot more than he thinks.. and actually he started losing in recent 3-4 races.. cause when you respect to someones competitiveness you respect to him and more importantly to yourself also that takes you one step higher even if it may look the opposite from outside..

good post.
I have only two suggestions:

regarding paragraph 1, be careful someone doesn't crash into the side of your car.

regarding paragraph 2, in my view Alonso is way way better than his results suggest. his principal (and maybe only) defect is horsesh*t timing regarding team choices, whereas Lewis's choices have been damn near clairvoyant.

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by Poiseuille

good post.
I have only two suggestions:

regarding paragraph 1, be careful someone doesn't crash into the side of your car.

regarding paragraph 2, in my view Alonso is way way better than his results suggest. his principal (and maybe only) defect is horsesh*t timing regarding team choices, whereas Lewis's choices have been damn near clairvoyant.

I have a softer view of Alonso now...Briatore has been the Svengali in his career which has been the chief problem. I have no evidence of this but given the fact that Briatore breaks everything he does, I have little doubt that he was advising ALO to do the same.

[yco]

Originally Posted by Bartledoo

You can't possibly think Lewis is being genuine all the time...

no one can be genuine all the time since we re human beings and there are some unwritten rules for even walking on the street.. sometimes im catching him starting the phase differently and ending it differently.. we all do that.. though the best part i like about Lewis' personality that his ego is not bigger than his talent.. he s fighting against it.. and he is quite reconciliatory person.. i guess it came by age and after proving himself as well.. his style got pretty fancy according to his younger ages but it can be seen and also feels that, he s pretty easy going person that you can chat.. he gives value to people and himself that he is genuinely communicating with fans who s approaching.. yes sometimes its obvious that he s bored but the treatment is still real.. thats pretty rare among racing drivers actually among all sort of people as well..

Originally Posted by Poiseuille

good post.
I have only two suggestions:

regarding paragraph 1, be careful someone doesn't crash into the side of your car.

regarding paragraph 2, in my view Alonso is way way better than his results suggest. his principal (and maybe only) defect is horsesh*t timing regarding team choices, whereas Lewis's choices have been damn near clairvoyant.

yes i agree Alonso could achieve bigger things but probably the only team that he didnt have much problem was Minardi many years ago.. it can not be only "other" people's problem.. i mean one sided.. there are things definitely wrong with Alonso's approach as well.. he s such wired person that this reflects on his driving style to relations with people.. and drove for McLaren, Ferrari, Renault.. these teams dealt with many champions in the past.. he wasnt something totally different.. he left McLaren and now McLaren is much faster.. can be karma really..

[CooLeh7]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

I heard the on-board radio (team-radio) communication from MAX...
MAX was requesting tires....I need fresh tires ?!?! My tires guys ?!?! I can not finish the race with these tires !!!
MAX how's the balance ? Not good ! I'm losing grip all the time ! My tires are completely F.... !

And finally he said....Now it's too late guys !!!!

Actually it was heartbraking , to hear it from MAX !
To me it was a big RB pitstop mistake from Horner !
RB pitstop strategy really s@cked ....

Think Max prefers the chase rather than defend. He would rather drop to 2nd with fresh tires and chase even if he comes 2nd instead of keeping pace to manage tires and try to hold on. RB were too scared to lose the lead....

[Bingobimmer]

Originally Posted by Bartledoo

You can't possibly think Lewis is being genuine all the time...

This. Lewis is fantastic, but his "coach speak" is as bad as anyone.

[Bingobimmer]

Originally Posted by CooLeh7

Think Max prefers the chase rather than defend. He would rather drop to 2nd with fresh tires and chase even if he comes 2nd instead of keeping pace to manage tires and try to hold on. RB were too scared to lose the lead....

I think that is going to be the story of the second half. Lewis runs great out front and Max is great when behind.

[Bingobimmer]

Originally Posted by yco

they have such respect to each other that it can be seen vividly on track as well.. i hope it continues all the way to the end.. its not like that between Vettel and Max.. though Vettel is a weird personality that he is over friendly when everyone can see his eyes, and on track its the opposite.. its not because he s a hardcore fighter, more likely there is some insincerity among his radio calls, talks, and behaviors somewhere in the overall picture.. like he s telling "im a racing driver, i need an excuse for everything.." sometimes those excuses become unreal and pretty funny..

Alonso wasnt a respectful man at some point as well that i guess its his weakest point and for me it was the reason his career ended in such a way.. any team he joined he left some damage to himself and the team.. and Nico.. oh boy i can not even stand hearing his voice.. a lollipop or Siri is a lot more sincere than Nico..

respect on track comes personality and being earned on track.. one of the reasons why Hamilton is one of the best of all time.. and Max got into this shape in recent 1-1.5 years also.. which makes him a better racing driver that we can see clearly also recently.. Bottas after winning more races became a bit arrogant or i should say ego boosted and lost his respect to Hamilton a bit.. which is absurd cause he needs a looot more than he thinks.. and actually he started losing in recent 3-4 races.. cause when you respect to someones competitiveness you respect to him and more importantly to yourself also that takes you one step higher even if it may look the opposite from outside..

Vettel is in a strange position. He is a world champion on a team that clearly isn't a championship contender. He has been overdriving for a while now.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by CooLeh7

Think Max prefers the chase rather than defend. He would rather drop to 2nd with fresh tires and chase even if he comes 2nd instead of keeping pace to manage tires and try to hold on. RB were too scared to lose the lead....

Negative . MAX will always battle in every race for the victory .
MAX can handle the stress and pressure to lead a race from in the begin till the end , because he's a born winner.

I agree about RB , they thought MAX could keep his lead . But it was a miscalculation by RB , because his tires looked like 5H1T .
Whatever....LEWIS and the Merc were unbeatable and bullet fast in this race . LEWIS deserved the victory .
Let us hope for MAX , the Honda spec4 motor can close the gap with Mercedes, and the boring races are past ...

[jondagger]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Negative . MAX will always battle in every race for the victory .
MAX can handle the stress and pressure to lead a race from in the begin till the end , because he's a born winner.

I agree about RB , they thought MAX could keep his lead . But it was a miscalculation by RB , because his tires looked like 5H1T .
Whatever....LEWIS and the Merc were unbeatable and bullet fast in this race . LEWIS deserved the victory .
Let us hope for MAX , the Honda spec4 motor can close the gap with Mercedes, and the boring races are past ...

MAX is a wheel to wheel monster. He doesnt ever seem to be in distress when being chased. Ynfortunately we dont usually see him chase for victory due to the under performing car in respect to the MERC + HAM mixture.

Did you guys catch the post race conference?? jump to minute 28 LOL. Ending is hilarious. They mention Bottas and reeeeeem Gasly LOL.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by jdag001

MAX is a wheel to wheel monster. He doesnt ever seem to be in distress when being chased. Ynfortunately we dont usually see him chase for victory due to the under performing car in respect to the MERC + HAM mixture.

Did you guys catch the post race conference?? jump to minute 28 LOL. Ending is hilarious. They mention Bottas and reeeeeem Gasly LOL.

Yeah . I saw the funny video . And it looked like Lewis got something in his ear ?
Probably some champagne from on the podium

Thanks for posting anyway . And the next race is ......*Spa-Francorchamps*

[yco]

Originally Posted by Bingobimmer

Vettel is in a strange position. He is a world champion on a team that clearly isn't a championship contender. He has been overdriving for a while now.

i dont think that he s overdriving after last year Hockenheim.. more likely Leclerc is overdriving to keep up with Merc' and Red Bull thus he s making mistakes.. and its pretty visible from qualies or practices.. more likely it looks like Vettel went out of motivation..

[///M Power-Belgium]

The last job from MAX before the vacancy

[M3_WC]

I fully expect Ferrari to be fighting for pole in Spa and Monza.

[EvilMiyagi]

Originally Posted by M3_WC

I fully expect Ferrari to be fighting for pole in Spa and Monza.

Power circuits so I fully agree with you. Although I think the new Honda engine may hold some surprises and Mercedes will again likely opt for sector 2 superiority over straight line grunt in 1 & 3 to snatch pole.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M3_WC

I fully expect Ferrari to be fighting for pole in Spa and Monza.

Ferrari is running behind the facts . And their drivers are in a state of depression.

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Ferrari is running behind the facts . And their drivers are in a state of depression.

That may be but their cars are aerodynamically efficient and ideal for these two circuits.