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Originally Posted by jmg

My nightmare will be fully realized when our child won't qualify for and financial aid for college because of our income and we will be paying out of pocket.

Or you could tell them to work part time and go to school.
I spent 10 years paying off college loans. Parents didnt help a dime.

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Originally Posted by MKSixer

I don't know why you left out us i8 owners because we have ///M suspension. I've seen it. Stamped on the parts.

Heh, well, I should have included you on price of car alone.
Totally forgot about the i8

[jmg]

Originally Posted by 01101001

Or you could tell them to work part time and go to school.
I spent 10 years paying off college loans. Parents didnt help a dime.

There are colleges that are way more expensive than what a student can make. Granted, hopefully there will be grants and scholarships. I too paid for my own college. My parents weren't financially capable of paying my tuition.

[ragingpanda]

Having no wife or kids (that I'm aware of) makes it a lot easier to afford such toys

[qba335i]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

wealthy people don't invest in cars. there is no "investing" in cars. rich people already know this... they buy, keep for 6 months, get a new one.

I work with ultra high net worth (20M+ in investable assets) people and they barely spend more than 50-60k on a new car. They usually use it for 5+ years.

Most people flipping cars like that are the under 1-2M in assets who want to be perceived as ultra high net worth.

[PoorLurker]

Originally Posted by Samurai of 2day

Quick example. I certainly don't make 6 figures a year, but I still make a very comfortable living after YEARS of climbing the ladder in my chosen career.

A couple years ago, I had a Bentley Dealer scratching at my heals to put me in a very nice brand new car from his show room floor.

Could I afford the payments he drew up? Absolutely. As a single guy, bachelor life makes it very easy for me to manage my finances in a very selfish manner.

Originally Posted by davis449

I have two incomes, mine and my GF's. Together we don't make 6 figures (close, though).

Looks at cars owned

Originally Posted by MKSixer

I

You make over $400k per year. You don't count.

Originally Posted by 01101001

Our house is 2,500 sq. ft.
I have my BMW and she has her car.
We have nothing else extravagant or remotely expensive.
She buys jewelry at kohls, and lots of clothes at goodwill, lol.
We have no expensive hobbies or activities.
We don't take vacations... EVER.
We have no kids.

By the time taxes are done raping you on the federal, state, and local level, and all your regular expenses are deducted for rent, lights, cable, cell phones, etc, etc... a $150-170k year income is all but gone.

See my response to the other people above

Originally Posted by 01101001

Heh, well, I should have included you on price of car alone.
Totally forgot about the i8

See my response to him haha

[PoorLurker]

Davis said it best - make sacrifices with one's income.

There are things that I have 0 interest in purchasing and don't value it at all. Therefore, I will not spend a penny on it.

However, there are things that I value that I will spend WAY too much money on it.

Like I tell my wife - would you rather have 10 - $10 shirts or 2 - $50 shirts? Personally, I'd rather have 1 - $100 shirt.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by PoorLurker

Looks at cars owned

Cost of living play a HUGE role in this. You living in Orange County like I do, where the houses range from lower middle class, to some of the most exclusive and wealthy neighborhoods in the US should know what I mean.

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Originally Posted by jmg

There are colleges that are way more expensive than what a student can make. Granted, hopefully there will be grants and scholarships. I too paid for my own college. My parents weren't financially capable of paying my tuition.

I think college is a little overrated anyway.
Besides the most well known dropouts, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Michael Dell, there have been other dropouts that made enormous fortunes as well. It's the childs own brain that has to do the learning, and if they're self motivated, it doesn't really matter how good/bad the teachers are.

My degree is in Accounting, yet I'm a computer programmer for the last 15 years. People who are driven can self-teach if given the resoources/opportunities.

That guy who Will Smith played who was homeless with a son and slept in subway train station bathrooms and such, and managed to become a multi-millionaire stock broker comes to mind.

As long as companies aren't telling applicants F and U, we're only hiring from Stanford, Harvard, etc.... then I don't think college is that big a deal in holding a motivated person back from success of some meaningful measure.

Kids in dirt slums with an internet connection and a laptop can write software for Apple/Samsung phones and sell them on the app stores, and make fortunes. These days, there's not much holding anyone back from success except their own motivation.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by 01101001

I think college is a little overrated anyway.
Besides the most well known dropouts, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Michael Dell, there have been other dropouts that made enormous fortunes as well. It's the childs own brain that has to do the learning, and if they're self motivated, it doesn't really matter how good/bad the teachers are.

My degree is in Accounting, yet I'm a computer programmer for the last 15 years. People who are driven can self-teach if given the resoources/opportunities.

That guy who Will Smith played who was homeless with a son and slept in subway train station bathrooms and such, and managed to become a multi-millionaire stock broker comes to mind.

As long as companies aren't telling applications F and U, we're only hiring from Stanford, Harvard, etc.... then I don't think college is that big a deal in holding a motivated person back from success of some meaningful measure.

Kids in dirt slums with an internet connection and a laptop can write software for Apple/Samsung phones and sell them on the app stores, and make fortunes. These days, there's not much holding anyone back from success except their own motivation.

I have a BS in Kinesiology and Biomechanics and I was going to go for my Masters in Physical Therapy. I ended up in the film industry and have been there since. It's not exclusively which degree my child chooses to go for in college, it's that he will be exposed to people who are educated and motivated who might be friends for life. I also believe I learned more about myself and how to think in my elective classes. It's there that I found that I loved to write and express ideas through pictures, art, words, and music. I didn't know these things in high school because I didn't have the chance to be exposed to them. College is a journey not everyone has to or will take, but it's a good way to broaden your horizons if you have the will. Plus I drank a lot of alcohol and did a lot of drugs so that was fun.

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Originally Posted by jmg

I also believe I learned more about myself and how to think in my elective classes.

The most valuable classes I ever took were in logic and philosophy.

The hilarious part is that most colleges don't even offer classes in logic, yet in my mind, logic should be required classes for every student in america by 7th grade. The fact that that's left out of the curriculum is insane.
I'd make it a criminal offense for any school administration that refuses to include classes in logic.

That and it should be a felony for the parents to indoctrinate kids with religitardation before they have been taught critical thinking skills. Victimizing them like that when they are so ill equipped to defend themselves with logical, rational, reasoned arguments is really sickening.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by 01101001

The most valuable classes I ever took were in logic and philosophy.

YES!! The logic and philosophy classes are the classes that I will STRONGLY encourage my son to take. Probably the top of my list of favorite and valuable classes I ever took! To the unindoctrinated, it's not about which philosopher said what or theories on life and existentialism, it's about the thought process and logic of language and reason! If everyone in the world took a good logic and philosophy class the world would be a better place.

[1MOREMOD]

Yeah we can all agree and got a new word, religitardation

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Originally Posted by jmg

YES!! If everyone in the world took a good logic and philosophy class the world would be a better place.

Well these days everyone can learn a lot on the internet for free.
I believe Stanford offers an Intro to Logic course for free.

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by PoorLurker

Looks at cars owned






You make over $400k per year. You don't count.



See my response to the other people above



See my response to him haha

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by UncleWede

Can you come tell me how much to stop my wood floors from squeaking (tigerwood over raised foundation) and leave a few on the end table? Then maybe your wife can explain how I can save up to have the foundation poured underneath so I no longer have that issue.

Screws. Lots of screws.

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

Screws. Lots of screws.

Tonka Donk FTMFW

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

It's a little known fact that historically, beavers are damn easily agitated.

Being as how the Damn Beaver cannot read or write, it makes it nearly impossible for the Damn Beaver to complete the necessary Damn paperwork.

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

No.

There is a lot of overlap in personalities, that is a bff waiting to happen.

[Biorin]

Originally Posted by PoorLurker

Davis said it best - make sacrifices with one's income.

There are things that I have 0 interest in purchasing and don't value it at all. Therefore, I will not spend a penny on it.

However, there are things that I value that I will spend WAY too much money on it.

Like I tell my wife - would you rather have 10 - $10 shirts or 2 - $50 shirts? Personally, I'd rather have 1 - $100 shirt.

This. The amount of money that people spend on shit like going to bars 3 nights a week, getting manicures and pedicures every week, Starbucks coffee twice a day... it adds up in a big way.

[EL Jeffe 5]

got sugar mama here

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Originally Posted by Biorin

The amount of money that people spend on shit like going to bars 3 nights a week, getting manicures and pedicures every week, Starbucks coffee twice a day... it adds up in a big way.

Heh... I feel blessed to hate coffee with a passion, and bars as well.
I don't drink alcohol or smoke.
Starbucks and their ilk can go eff themselves.