[sayemthree]

gbb - the reason you get flamed is because you take and make everything personal. Instead of discussing performance cars you choose to make personal attacks and point out others fualts and mistakes. I merely point out the faults and mistakes if the IS-F, (F= Fail). apparently you cant handle tha fact that others don't think its an awesome car.

[sayemthree]

Originally Posted by gbb357

And another post from sayemthree that has no relevance what so ever.

I'll give you some relevence:

Here’s why I have little respect for the Lexus:

1. fake fender vents
2. fake exhaust pipes
3. cheesy plastic engine cover
4. No Lim Slip Diff
5. engine out of the LS460
6. engine tuned by Yamaha
7. Nav out of the Prius
8. No manual transmission
9. IS-F has lost every track comparison to date
10. peak torque RPM is way to high (the Lexus engine doesn’t deliver according to CandD)
11. Average age of Lexus owner 60-something. Average age of BMW owner 40-something
12. Its still a Toyota, the General Motors of Japan


Motor Trend on the IS-F sept 2008:steering "really loses sensitivity when honking it"
"but the car understeers heavily at the limit" and the "wheel feels disconnected at that point".
and it "plows hard" when pushed.
and inside "the nav screen and buttons come right out of the Prius".

[gbb357]

Originally Posted by sayemthree

I'll give you some relevence:

Here’s why I have little respect for the Lexus:

1. fake fender vents
2. fake exhaust pipes
3. cheesy plastic engine cover
4. No Lim Slip Diff
5. engine out of the LS460
6. engine tuned by Yamaha
7. Nav out of the Prius
8. No manual transmission
9. IS-F has lost every track comparison to date
10. peak torque RPM is way to high (the Lexus engine doesn’t deliver according to CandD)
11. Average age of Lexus owner 60-something. Average age of BMW owner 40-something
12. Its still a Toyota, the General Motors of Japan


Motor Trend on the IS-F sept 2008:steering "really loses sensitivity when honking it"
"but the car understeers heavily at the limit" and the "wheel feels disconnected at that point".
and it "plows hard" when pushed.
and inside "the nav screen and buttons come right out of the Prius".

And your point is? It still does'nt changed the fact that you can't tell the difference between an M5 and an M3. Now that's relevant! . What makes you think that i care about that list, i might end up buying an M3 coupe anyway or i might buy the ISF.

I have a better list:

1. sayemthree can't tell the difference between the M5 or an M3
2. sayemthree can't tell the difference between the M5 or an M3
3. sayemthree can't tell the difference between the M5 or an M3

What do you think about this list sayemthree, i know you like it because it's true.

[ToothDoc]

Another guy in the midwest took his stock IS-F to the exact same track. He had a headwind (I had a tailwind) and his DA was about 100' higher than mine. With all that, here are his numbers vs. my numbers:

60 2.002 2.094
1/8 et 8.293 8.674
1/8 trap 89.15 84.12
1/4 et 12.705 13.239
1/4 trap 113.19 110.45

Now, some number crunching... He's about 5 mph faster at the 1/8 point but by the time we finish the 1/4, he's only 3 mph faster. So, I'm actually starting to catch up which is a result of better DA (for me) and the fact I had a couple MPH tailwind and he had a couple MPH headwind. The biggest difference is in the LAUNCH. Even though his 60' is only .09 faster, he didn't spin down the track the whole first gear like I did.

The thing is, he only had two runs - the first run, he had a passenger and the second run he got kicked out for no helmet.

You'll see, the IS-F will be doing even better than 12.70@113 soon... Once we are able to hook up!

[sayemthree]

Originally Posted by gbb357

And your point is? It still does'nt changed the fact that you can't tell the difference between an M5 and an M3. Now that's relevant! . What makes you think that i care about that list, i might end up buying an M3 coupe anyway or i might buy the ISF.

I have a better list:

1. sayemthree can't tell the difference between the M5 or an M3
2. sayemthree can't tell the difference between the M5 or an M3
3. sayemthree can't tell the difference between the M5 or an M3

What do you think about this list sayemthree, i know you like it because it's true.

if that's all you have.... it is truly sad. and I feel sorry for you.

[gbb357]

Originally Posted by ToothDoc

Another guy in the midwest took his stock IS-F to the exact same track. He had a headwind (I had a tailwind) and his DA was about 100' higher than mine. With all that, here are his numbers vs. my numbers:

60 2.002 2.094
1/8 et 8.293 8.674
1/8 trap 89.15 84.12
1/4 et 12.705 13.239
1/4 trap 113.19 110.45

Now, some number crunching... He's about 5 mph faster at the 1/8 point but by the time we finish the 1/4, he's only 3 mph faster. So, I'm actually starting to catch up which is a result of better DA (for me) and the fact I had a couple MPH tailwind and he had a couple MPH headwind. The biggest difference is in the LAUNCH. Even though his 60' is only .09 faster, he didn't spin down the track the whole first gear like I did.

The thing is, he only had two runs - the first run, he had a passenger and the second run he got kicked out for no helmet.

You'll see, the IS-F will be doing even better than 12.70@113 soon... Once we are able to hook up!

Car and driver has done 12.7@114mph, so i don't doubt that you'll do better.

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.2 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 9.8 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 24.7 sec
Street start, 5-60 mph: 4.6 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.7 sec @ 114 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 172 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 159 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.92 g

FUEL ECONOMY:
EPA city/highway driving: 16/23 mpg
C/D-observed: 16 mpg

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...cs+page-4.html

[gbb357]

Originally Posted by sayemthree

if that's all you have.... it is truly sad. and I feel sorry for you.

Huh? I don't get it. What else do you expect me to say. Ahh, you expect me to bash BMW like you're bashing Lexus. Not gonna happen, like i've said before, i like BMW's especially the M3 ever since i've drove the first one back in 86'. And i have no problem admitting that the M3 is a better all around performance car, and i have said it countless times. So you should really feel sorry for yourself, since you can't tell the difference between the M5 and the M3.

P.S. I like Lexus, MB, and Audi as well. But i'm a huge AMG fanboy.

[Year's_End]

Alright, enough's been said. Please end this retarded argument and stick to the thread.

[Vince@ V K Motorwerks]

I Know The 335i Isnt The Fastest Car Or Best Car On The Planet, But It Is The Best Car For Me. If Someone Feels The Same Way About Their Is-f Or Their Toyota Prius It Doesnt Mean Shit To Me. So I Dont Understand How Some People Get So Damn Emotional Over Someone Saying Their Car Is A Good Car. Now I Been Over At The Lexus Forums And I Have To Say Their Are A Few People There Who Talk Shit About The 335i. To Me Im Flatured Because They Are So Happy To Beat A 335i Which Tells Me To Them The 335i Is A Bench Mark.

Enough Said, Enjoy Your Cars. There Is Always Something Better Looking,faster, More Comfy...just Depends On Your Pockets. And Stop Talking Shit!!!

[gbb357]

Originally Posted by Chitown335i

I Know The 335i Isnt The Fastest Car Or Best Car On The Planet, But It Is The Best Car For Me. If Someone Feels The Same Way About Their Is-f Or Their Toyota Prius It Doesnt Mean Shit To Me. So I Dont Understand How Some People Get So Damn Emotional Over Someone Saying Their Car Is A Good Car. Now I Been Over At The Lexus Forums And I Have To Say Their Are A Few People There Who Talk Shit About The 335i. To Me Im Flatured Because They Are So Happy To Beat A 335i Which Tells Me To Them The 335i Is A Bench Mark.

Enough Said, Enjoy Your Cars. There Is Always Something Better Looking,faster, More Comfy...just Depends On Your Pockets. And Stop Talking Shit!!!

Trust me when i say that people that talk shit about BMW's in Lexus forums gets evenly flamed. The 335i might not be the fastest or best, but for the price and it's mod capabilities, i don't think you can get anything better out there. And the coupe is one of the best designs out there, next to the S5 IMO.

[gbb357]

Originally Posted by sayemthree

gbb - the reason you get flamed is because you take and make everything personal. Instead of discussing performance cars you choose to make personal attacks and point out others fualts and mistakes. I merely point out the faults and mistakes if the IS-F, (F= Fail). apparently you cant handle tha fact that others don't think its an awesome car.

Since my original post was deleted, i will respond to this again. So once again, Alpine6spd was talking about you flaming on the ISF and particularly on Toothdoc just because he has an ISF. No one is flaming on me, if anything i'm flaming on you about not knowing the difference between the M5 & the M3. The thread is about this one particular ISF's 1/4 mile performance, or lack of. You keep going off-topic about the fake vents, fake exhaust, etc. etc. and directing it at me. Why, i have no idea. So therefore i go off topic as well about you not knowing what an M5 or an M3 is. I could careless whether you or anyone else thinks the ISF is awesome or not, or any other car for that matter. All i know and care is that the ISF, e92M3, C63, and the RS4 are all nice cars and i wish i can have them all.

[sayemthree]

[gbb357]

Originally Posted by sayemthree

So stop posting.

[sayemthree]

Originally Posted by gbb357

So stop posting.

dude - you are so funny.

but you need to understand that just because most the people on your IS forum love the M3 does not mean that most BMW owners must love Lexus too. some of us do, but lots of us dont. I for one think it was a lame attempt to dethrone the m3 based on the many reasons I have listed. for me its not even in the same class as the M3. I would get a 335i and mod it before I would get an ISF.
you should stop trolling here and go back to your IS forum and defend the ISF there, as it appears most people there like the M3 better too!

[gbb357]

Originally Posted by sayemthree

dude - you are so funny.

but you need to understand that just because most the people on your IS forum love the M3 does not mean that most BMW owners must love Lexus too. some of us do, but lots of us dont. I for one think it was a lame attempt to dethrone the m3 based on the many reasons I have listed. for me its not even in the same class as the M3. I would get a 335i and mod it before I would get an ISF.
you should stop trolling here and go back to your IS forum and defend the ISF there, as it appears most people there like the M3 better too!

I honestly could care less if anybody likes the ISF, and i especially don't excpect anyone here to do so. My point is that the BMW brand is liked and respected on almost any forum i go to, and i particularly like it very much myself. Point is, in most forums, members do not get flamed on just because they own or like another brand. There are many members in Lexus forums i go to that owns BMW's and they don't get flamed for it for no reason. So i don't understand why you think you need to bash other brands and particularly Lexus if there is no reason to. No one in this thread has said anything bad about BMW at all. You don't like the ISF or Lexus, so what and who cares. But don't express it and bash and flame someone in here particularly Toothdoc just because he has the ISF. You're the one who's trolling buddy, not me. And the list that you have given is not even accurate and is quite hypocritical in the first place. For the last time, i don't need to defend the ISF, i just like to have fun with people like you especially the fact that you don't know what an M5 or an M3 is. So be quite and go back to your little hole where you crawled out of.


P.S. And why do you get yourself so worked out just because there are members here that owns and likes the ISF in the first place. So what, Get a life will ya. Calm down and relax, be happy sayemthree. You're going to get your M3 as soon as you figure out what it is.

[McLuVan]

Originally Posted by ///Mantis

lol 13.2??!! the IS350 ran like 13.4 or 13.3

FAIL

it IS-FAIL

[sayemthree]

www.is-f.justgotowned.com

I was thinking that F was a poor marketing choice. such as GM using the LACross name in Canada (means masterbation)

F = fail,

as well as some other charming words that begin with F, most of them not very nice words.




www.is-f.justgotowned.com

[SteelTorque]

I think the IS-FAIL is a nice car, if it just didn't look so damn ricey. Must be that exhaust.

[gbb357]

Originally Posted by SteelTorque

I think the IS-FAIL is a nice car, if it just didn't look so damn ricey. Must be that exhaust.

I agree, exhaust has got to go.

[sayemthree]

Originally Posted by gbb357

I agree, exhaust has got to go.

wow - we agree on something

- actually two things - that th ISF got owned on the track.

what about the fake fender vents. do you like those?

[Pimp Star]

Originally Posted by ToothDoc

Your comments are so constructive and intelligent. I hope my kids grows up to be just like you.

Bimmer Loyalist is a God and you're homosexual.

This thread is phail.

[gbb357]

Originally Posted by sayemthree

wow - we agree on something

- actually two things - that th ISF got owned on the track.

what about the fake fender vents. do you like those?

Do you agree that you don't know what's an M5 and an M3 is.

BTW, those side fender vents are functional. Friend of mine that owns a silver ISF from Socal confirmed it just now. How come you haven't responded to Bruce's rebutal in this thread, you're scared aren't ya. http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...=135178&page=2