BMW NA loses over 370 cars TODAY!! damaged!

shahils12 · 01-12-2008, 02:34 PM

someone said there's a website to check if your car was affected...I don't remember it, anyone know what it is?

called my dealer, he dosen't know anything about it....

Alabama_Man · 01-12-2008, 02:37 PM

Oh that's a shame. Glad there weren't any M5s in there, that would be wrecking a real performance vehicle.

JCLBoston · 01-12-2008, 03:10 PM

Wow.. I kind of dodged a bullet also. My car (Euro Delivery, nonetheless) came in a couple of days ago and I couldn't remember if the dealer had told me whether it was coming into NY or NJ. Needless to say, I was in panic mode for about a couple of hrs until I finally got cell phone service while travelling and contacted the dealer.

Turned out my car was on the ship to NY instead, but man.. that totally sucks for all of the affected owners...

Sorry if this was already addressed.. but what exactly is the deal with the ED cars? Does BMW have a different obligation (if any) for these cars vs. the unsold cars?

MTV · 01-12-2008, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCLBoston

Wow.. I kind of dodged a bullet also. My car (Euro Delivery, nonetheless) came in a couple of days ago and I couldn't remember if the dealer had told me whether it was coming into NY or NJ. Needless to say, I was in panic mode for about a couple of hrs until I finally got cell phone service while travelling and contacted the dealer.

Turned out my car was on the ship to NY instead, but man.. that totally sucks for all of the affected owners...

Sorry if this was already addressed.. but what exactly is the deal with the ED cars? Does BMW have a different obligation (if any) for these cars vs. the unsold cars?

l
u
c
k
y

JSpira · 01-12-2008, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCLBoston

Wow.. I kind of dodged a bullet also. My car (Euro Delivery, nonetheless) came in a couple of days ago and I couldn't remember if the dealer had told me whether it was coming into NY or NJ. Needless to say, I was in panic mode for about a couple of hrs until I finally got cell phone service while travelling and contacted the dealer.

Turned out my car was on the ship to NY instead, but man.. that totally sucks for all of the affected owners...

What you are saying makes no sense. Your car came into NJ. Period.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCLBoston

Sorry if this was already addressed.. but what exactly is the deal with the ED cars? Does BMW have a different obligation (if any) for these cars vs. the unsold cars?

ED cars are not owned by BMW and would be covered by your own car's insurance, not the ins. policy BMW has for shipping new cars.

Neurorad · 01-12-2008, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSpira

What you are saying makes no sense. Your car came into NJ. Period.

ED cars are not owned by BMW and would be covered by your own car's insurance, not the ins. policy BMW has for shipping new cars.

Doh.

50+ ED owners are now nauseous.

NY/NJ = same port

JSpira · 01-12-2008, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neurorad

Doh.

50+ ED owners are now nauseous.

NY/NJ = same port

Ja, the Port of NY is the Port Authority of NY and NJ. Or something like that.

But cars don't come into NY.

Tag · 01-12-2008, 03:27 PM

What's scary is those cars with cosmetic damages that can be repaired will be repaired and sold as new.

Better have a paint thickness measuring device on hand before you accept your car

. This just sucks if you're in the market for a new Bimmer right now.

Flea7 · 01-12-2008, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSpira

What you are saying makes no sense. Your car came into NJ. Period.

ED cars are not owned by BMW and would be covered by your own car's insurance, not the ins. policy BMW has for shipping new cars.

That's why I feel bad for the ED owners. There is no backing out!

JSpira · 01-12-2008, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flea7

That's why I feel bad for the ED owners. There is no backing out!

The marine ins. for e.d. is quite comprehensive, I don't think that there will be a problem if the car is significantly damaged but if the damage is minor, it will be repaired, not replaced.

Flea7 · 01-12-2008, 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSpira

The marine ins. for e.d. is quite comprehensive, I don't think that there will be a problem if the car is significantly damaged but if the damage is minor, it will be repaired, not replaced.

I hope so but still it's the thought of your new car that you spent little time with getting damaged before you have it in your garage.

JSpira · 01-12-2008, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flea7

I hope so but still it's the thought of your new car that you spent little time with getting damaged before you have it in your garage.

oh of course, I agree completely.

That's the big difference for e.d. owners - they have already bonded.

LEDZEP · 01-12-2008, 03:49 PM

The worst part it that these will be fixed with Bondo at the VPC and the customers will never know.

JSpira · 01-12-2008, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEDZEP

The worst part it that these will be fixed with Bondo at the VPC and the customers will never know.

You joke but the VDC doesn't fix parts - they replace everything (doors, fenders, wheels). Everything they take off is junked so it doesn't pop up elsewhere.

bily · 01-12-2008, 04:09 PM

I got a car that was repaired at the port a few years ago. Did not know it. About 3 months later I noticed the rear qp, was not the same color as the rear pd. Brought it to the dealer and confirmed it. They wanted to repair, I made the dealer buy the car back, out of lease. They were even willing to give me a whole new door, and told them hell no. Ask for disclosue at signing and a buy back agreement.

Tag · 01-12-2008, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSpira

You joke but the VDC doesn't fix parts - they replace everything (doors, fenders, wheels). Everything they take off is junked so it doesn't pop up elsewhere.

True, but they do paint the parts and the thickness will not be the same as factory. So when you go to sell/trade your car you'll have a few questions to answer. Also, you never know what else is wrong with the car. Some damages may not even be caught and can hide a long time before they rear their ugly heads.

Anyway, who the hell wants a BRAND NEW car that has body work done on it before you even step foot in it?

Robert · 01-12-2008, 07:31 PM

Anyone has an idea how cars are prepared for shipment? Are they strapped down at the wheel? If so is this why the wheels and axles are bent?

JSpira · 01-12-2008, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbo

Anyone has an idea how cars are prepared for shipment? Are they strapped down at the wheel? If so is this why the wheels and axles are bent?

I took a picture when I was on a vessel in Bremerhaven recently. They are tied down via the tow hooks.

raleedy · 01-12-2008, 08:01 PM

Sure, tied down for the voyage. And then untied so they can be unloaded. If the vessel lists at that point . . . as I said somewhere, it's just lucky if nobody got hurt.

CaptChaos · 01-12-2008, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comet

tell me this doesn't affect Canadian BMWs :P

Canadian cars get offloaded in Halifax before the ship continues onto the US.

JSpira · 01-12-2008, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raleedy

Sure, tied down for the voyage. And then untied so they can be unloaded. If the vessel lists at that point . . . as I said somewhere, it's just lucky if nobody got hurt.

Ja, I just said that to someone a few hours ago.

For others, details will be sparse and it will probably be days before BMW says anything, I can promise everyone that. Keep in mind that these vessels hold thousands of cars so perhaps 10% of capacity was impacted. Don´t panic (yet) please.

LEDZEP · 01-12-2008, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSpira

I took a picture when I was on a vessel in Bremerhaven recently.

So... some smooth talking sailor lured you aboard, eh?

I can't believe you fell for the "c'mere, I want to show you something" line.

01-12-2008, 02:34 PM	#67
shahils12 BALLER 19 Rep 626 Posts Drives: 2K8 E93, 2K8 E60. N54s Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: ATX iTrader: (0)	someone said there's a website to check if your car was affected...I don't remember it, anyone know what it is? called my dealer, he dosen't know anything about it....
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-12-2008, 02:37 PM	#68
Alabama_Man Banned 0 Rep 68 Posts Drives: 2008 E60 M5, 2007 335i Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Nob Hill, San Francisco CA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 335i [0.00] 2008 E60 M5 [0.00]	Oh that's a shame. Glad there weren't any M5s in there, that would be wrecking a real performance vehicle.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-12-2008, 03:10 PM	#69
JCLBoston First Lieutenant 139 Rep 334 Posts Drives: 2019 X3 M40i Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Boston, MA iTrader: (1)	Wow.. I kind of dodged a bullet also. My car (Euro Delivery, nonetheless) came in a couple of days ago and I couldn't remember if the dealer had told me whether it was coming into NY or NJ. Needless to say, I was in panic mode for about a couple of hrs until I finally got cell phone service while travelling and contacted the dealer. Turned out my car was on the ship to NY instead, but man.. that totally sucks for all of the affected owners... Sorry if this was already addressed.. but what exactly is the deal with the ED cars? Does BMW have a different obligation (if any) for these cars vs. the unsold cars? __________________ 2019 X3 M40i / Carbon Black
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-12-2008, 03:27 PM	#74
Tag this is the way 20142 Rep 8,971 Posts Drives: N-1 starfighter Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago iTrader: (3)	What's scary is those cars with cosmetic damages that can be repaired will be repaired and sold as new. Better have a paint thickness measuring device on hand before you accept your car . This just sucks if you're in the market for a new Bimmer right now.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-12-2008, 03:49 PM	#79
LEDZEP Lieutenant General 429 Rep 12,276 Posts Drives: 2009 E70 & 2011 F25 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Area 51 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 X3 35i M Sport [7.62] 2009 X5 M Sport [0.00] 2007 328xi E90 [0.00] 2006 325xiT E91 [0.00]	The worst part it that these will be fixed with Bondo at the VPC and the customers will never know. __________________ I think it is bad luck to be superstitious
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-12-2008, 04:09 PM	#81
bily Lieutenant 85 Rep 541 Posts Drives: 22 G05, 22 G26 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2022 i4 [10.00] 2022 BMW X5 [0.00] 2015 BMW 428 Cabriolet [0.00]	Buyer Beware! I got a car that was repaired at the port a few years ago. Did not know it. About 3 months later I noticed the rear qp, was not the same color as the rear pd. Brought it to the dealer and confirmed it. They wanted to repair, I made the dealer buy the car back, out of lease. They were even willing to give me a whole new door, and told them hell no. Ask for disclosue at signing and a buy back agreement.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-12-2008, 07:31 PM	#83
Robert Major General 440 Rep 6,967 Posts Drives: 135i -> is350 -> Tesla M3 perf Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Socal iTrader: (1)	Anyone has an idea how cars are prepared for shipment? Are they strapped down at the wheel? If so is this why the wheels and axles are bent?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

01-12-2008, 08:01 PM	#85
raleedy Colonel 160 Rep 2,248 Posts Drives: 2016 228i 6-speed Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon iTrader: (0)	Sure, tied down for the voyage. And then untied so they can be unloaded. If the vessel lists at that point . . . as I said somewhere, it's just lucky if nobody got hurt.
	Appreciate 0 Quote