[Almaretto]

Originally Posted by Juvi

The official reveal of the all-new G26 i4 Gran Coupe is finally here.

https://bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1808569

Look at that i4 get sideways!

First thing to fix is the hockey-stick on side.

[mbanck]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

I agree with you on that - that's a good baseline rule.

I guess my point was, the "M" has tended to indicate a power increase: M40i models make more power than 40i models, M50i models made more power than 50i models when the two briefly coexisted (the 750i is an outlier since it would surely be an M750i if not for the unique M760i V12 model).

I have the feeling BMW is just sticking "M" to the front of whatever they came up as top-of-the-line powertrain (and give them the M-Sport treatment) for each model, without thinking much about it otherwise.

[MPSdriver]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

I think this is common sense: just like we know from the model designation of a gas car what engine it has and its power output, the same should be true with BEVs: a BMW with "50" in its name and dual motors should produce the same power no matter which specific model it is.

Am I getting this right?
- the iX xDrive40 will make "more than 300hp" (320hp) with dual motors (this thread)
- the i4 eDrive40 will also make "more than 300hp but with a single motor (press release)

I'm assuming that the motors in the dual iX setup differ from the one in the single motor setup of the i4?
If not, power output in the iX xDrive40 is limited somehow and (some of) the hardware might be present to upgrade power to xDrive50 levels

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by mbanck

I have the feeling BMW is just sticking "M" to the front of whatever they came up as top-of-the-line powertrain (and give them the M-Sport treatment) for each model, without thinking much about it otherwise.

When it comes to the electric models, at least in this early point in their evolution, this may very well be. If not now, then in time I think we'll see more differentiation. As I say above, incremental costs to increase output should be low while reduced range would indeed be a drawback.

Originally Posted by MPSdriver

I'm assuming that the motors in the dual iX setup differ from the one in the single motor setup of the i4?
If not, power output in the iX xDrive40 is limited somehow and (some of) the hardware might be present to upgrade power to xDrive50 levels

I'm very curious about all of this as well. The Ford Mustang Mach E is a currently available EV with a similar spec sheet - same/similar power for the RWD and AWD models within a tier.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by MPSdriver

Am I getting this right?
- the iX xDrive40 will make "more than 300hp" (320hp) with dual motors (this thread)
- the i4 eDrive40 will also make "more than 300hp but with a single motor (press release)

I'm assuming that the motors in the dual iX setup differ from the one in the single motor setup of the i4?
If not, power output in the iX xDrive40 is limited somehow and (some of) the hardware might be present to upgrade power to xDrive50 levels

There's something here that doesn't feel right to me either. This amount of power should be available out of a single modern motor, and there's this notable paragraph in the iX press release:

In the BMW iX xDrive50, the drive system – which features one electric motor on the front axle and another at the rear axle – produces total output of over 370 kW/500 hp and enables acceleration of 0 to 100 km/h (62 mph) in under 5.0 seconds. The BMW iX xDrive40 has an output of more than 240 kW/300 hp, allowing it to sprint from 0 to 100 km/h (62 mph) in a shade over 6.0 seconds.

Do you notice what's missing here? Exactly: any mention of the motor layout in the 40 similar to what they give for the 50.

So if in the end we learn that "xDrive40" and all other uses of "xdrive" for this model that I've seen elsewhere are just empty words, and it actually only has a single rear axle motor, I won't be surprised.

[MPSdriver]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Do you notice what's missing here? Exactly: any mention of the motor layout in the 40 similar to what they give for the 50.

So if in the end we learn that "xDrive40" and all other uses of "xdrive" for this model that I've seen elsewhere are just empty words, and it actually only has a single rear axle motor, I won't be surprised.

The info on the website seems to suggest two engines for both xDrive versions but maybe not as explicitly for the xDrive40...
At one point I was thinking that they might create xDrive with a single e-motor on the rear axle and a transfer case to drive the front wheels... but that felt completly absurd. I guess we'll have to wait and see

[JustChris]

Did this one happen over in the US?

One more F87 M2 model is possible. Just looking at timing, it should be something very special, with a very short production run. And it will be US only.

Not the global M2CS was there a run out M2 'other' car?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by JustChris

Did this one happen over in the US?

One more F87 M2 model is possible. Just looking at timing, it should be something very special, with a very short production run. And it will be US only.

Not the global M2CS was there a run out M2 'other' car?

That was M2 Racing.

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

That was M2 Racing.

Ah ok thank you x

[CH_M3f80]

Originally Posted by bayarea328xit

Is 2022 the current estimate for the G05 X5 LCI? The first post does not provide a month/year.
I'm hoping for 2022 as our lease expires in April 2022.

March 2021
F95/F96/G05/G06: Shadowline headlights in April.
G05 X5/F95 X5M - 07/26 (LCI 04/23)

Which is correct for the X5 LCI, 04/23 (first page) or 2022 (see post above)?

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by CH_M3f80

Which is correct for the X5 LCI, 04/23 (first page) or 2022 (see post above)?

The posts referring to 2022 are from January 2020 and the post referring to 4/2023 is from March 2021, so the latter is far more current information.

[ynguldyn]

The "i3" name is being officially reassigned to the Chinese 3-series EVs.

[lemetier]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

He drops some useful info. Good guy for sure. If you're reading lemetier, thanks for your contribs.

But ynguldyn is the one to listen to when it comes to production vehicle info. A G81 is different from a CS or CSL or what have you. Sure, it's not going to be huge volume. But it's just not the type of vehicle you market as a "special" deal. Same reason you don't see these come in the final year or whatever (I was actually surprised it's trailing the LCI by even a few months - but I forgot to consider the fact that the G21 goes longer than the G20 which helps justify that). I mean if you go through the effort to create stampings for the fenders, rework all sorts of stuff (see the F81 conversions for how much needs to change), it doesn't make sense to only produce it for a short time.

The previous two ///M Touring that went into production were also limited (E34 M5 - 1000units/891(2*) built/ E61 1200units/1,025 built).

*Theres one special E34 M5 Touring used for development purposes stashed away in a vault, unseen by the public to this day.

Its not that it's going to be produced over a short time, but that the additional time and complexities require it to be a bit segregated from the standard line.

[soheil]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

The "i3" name is being officially reassigned to the Chinese 3-series EVs.

What?! So they are gonna have 2 completely different i3 models for different markets? That's genius!

[hujames1976]

Great news. Waiting for next generation BMW

[sward]

Originally Posted by soheil

What?! So they are gonna have 2 completely different i3 models for different markets? That's genius!

Nothing new. 2 series is both 2 door sports car and a 7 seater minivan.

[gmag]

Originally Posted by sh11

It will be named iXs, not iX M60, and it will match M750Le power output. The i7 M60 will have 650hp.

Just a little "titbit" - the hybrid power train of the G70 M750Le will be the entry-level power train in the upcoming XM

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by lemetier

*Theres one special E34 M5 Touring used for development purposes stashed away in a vault, unseen by the public to this day.

Powered by the S70/2 (6.1-liter V12 McLaren engine).

[lemetier]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Powered by the S70/2 (6.1-liter V12 McLaren engine).

That's the one

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by lemetier

Its not that it's going to be produced over a short time, but that the additional time and complexities require it to be a bit segregated from the standard line.

Gotcha. I sort of touched on that idea of "cadence" in this post.

It really does feel like this one will be more popular than the any previous M touring though. I have to believe they somewhat expect that to be the case and can account for higher demand.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

The "i3" name is being officially reassigned to the Chinese 3-series EVs.

I see that you've also listed EOP date for the existing I01 i3 - June 2022 (this may have been added awhile back, but I just noticed it).

Given the early-2022 sales start date for the i4, one could expect the G28 i3 at a similar time. So even in China, it looks like there won't be much overlap (if any).

[qdtjant]

Question:
What new models of Alpina are these: ?
The facelift was launched in fall 2020.

November 2021:
G30 Alpina B5
G30 Alpina D5
G31 Alpina B5