[M5Rick]

Hamilton more involved in incidents than Max.
https://racingnews365.com/who-is-inv...-or-verstappen

[jkoral]

Montoya almost blames Max (but calls it a racing incident): https://www.planetf1.com/news/juan-p...ewis-hamilton/

“I don’t think Max gave him enough room. Max turned pretty sharp, corrected out and went back in, he tried to give him room for someone that was going to get out of the way and not someone who wanted to stay there.”

“Max is an aggressive guy...”

"You are always going to argue ‘oh but when they touch’, but when they touched Lewis tried to back out of it because Max never did, and I think if Max would have given him a little more room, he would still have come out ahead of him.”

“Max could have lifted and finished second in the race and maybe beat him on strategy with a faster car, and he went for the win, and [look] at how many points he lost.”

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Hamilton more involved in incidents than Max.
https://racingnews365.com/who-is-inv...-or-verstappen

When you eliminate the 12,000 events before 2019...sure. This is the saddest propaganda I've ever seen.

This is what RBR supporters depend on: Propaganda and Feelings. Objective data tells a different story.

Verstappen is a driver to be avoided on the track. Everyone gives him extra room. He's a menace on the track and a thug in the paddock. Just ask Ocon.

[inTgr8r]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

When you eliminate the 12,000 events before 2019...sure. This is the saddest propaganda I've ever seen.

This is what RBR supporters depend on: Propaganda and Feelings. Objective data tells a different story.

Verstappen is a driver to be avoided on the track. Everyone gives him extra room. He's a menace on the track and a thug in the paddock. Just ask Ocon.

Case in point...
Watch on Youtube..

[tdott]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Hamilton more involved in incidents than Max.
https://racingnews365.com/who-is-inv...-or-verstappen

lol Drivers started to avoid Max more after 2019, so he had them to thank for it, not himself, doesn't mean his past incidents should be forgotten.

Ask any of the drivers on the paddock if they think Max isn't an aggressive driver regardless of his record since 2019.

Hamilton just likes taking out Red Bulls I guess.
Maybe they should learn how to complete a clean pass.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

When you eliminate the 12,000 events before 2019...sure. This is the saddest propaganda I've ever seen.

This is what RBR supporters depend on: Propaganda and Feelings. Objective data tells a different story.

Verstappen is a driver to be avoided on the track. Everyone gives him extra room. He's a menace on the track and a thug in the paddock. Just ask Ocon.

Ask Ocon..OMW! you must be having a laugh friend.

[racerbruce]

Originally Posted by inTgr8r

Case in point...
Watch on Youtube..

VER was (and still is) an on-track bully....widely regarded as a spoiled child.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by jkoral

Montoya almost blames Max (but calls it a racing incident): https://www.planetf1.com/news/juan-p...ewis-hamilton/

“I don’t think Max gave him enough room. Max turned pretty sharp, corrected out and went back in, he tried to give him room for someone that was going to get out of the way and not someone who wanted to stay there.”

“Max is an aggressive guy...”

"You are always going to argue ‘oh but when they touch’, but when they touched Lewis tried to back out of it because Max never did, and I think if Max would have given him a little more room, he would still have come out ahead of him.”

“Max could have lifted and finished second in the race and maybe beat him on strategy with a faster car, and he went for the win, and [look] at how many points he lost.”

Negative. Hamilton had more room on the right. If Max had given him room then he would have ended up like Leclerc. Hamilton was in Max's racing and safety line spot for the exit and knew there would be a hit placing himself there.

[tdott]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Negative. Hamilton had more room room on the right. If Max had given him room then he would have ended up like Leclerc.

If Max had given him more room he'd still be in the race. Self preservation, he hasn't learned that technique as yet.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by racerbruce

VER was (and still is) an on-track bully....widely regarded as a spoiled child.

Racing incidents

[minn19]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Negative. Hamilton had more room room on the right. If Max had given him room then he would have ended up like Leclerc.

You mean still in the race and be second or even possibly first?

[tdott]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Racing incidents

This list says otherwise.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by tdott

This list says otherwise.

Honest question, has Lewis ever attacked anyone after a race? Did VER get penalized for the shoving match with Ocon? I guess that was 2018 so that doesn't count either right?

[racerbruce]

Originally Posted by tdott

This list says otherwise.

VER (statistically) is a bully.

[racerbruce]

Originally Posted by minn19

Honest question, has Lewis ever attacked anyone after a race? Did VER get penalized for the shoving match with Ocon? I guess that was 2018 so that doesn't count either right?

It is now apparent that VER's next ride will be with NASCAR....he will fit in perfectly....constantly swapping paint and punches.

[clutchdj]

My buddies and I we talking about this on another forum. We finally have a driver that won’t lift with max because he’s been doing it since he joined F1.

[Ximian]

Originally Posted by EdM5

And don't forget about the benefits of HANS in this particular situation.

Unfortunately, the HANS devices do not offer much protection against side or lateral impacts. The raised sides of the cockpit help a bit and other vehicles have the halo seats, but there is no safety device equivalent to the HANS that specifically helps with side impacts.

It would be great if someone came up with a solution for it.

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by tdott

This list says otherwise.

You think anyone in a discussion between the FIA, VER and HAM is going to talk about things that happened 3 years or longer ago?
Like "well yeah, but 3 years ago you did this and that, therefore such and such....."

You really think they're gonna have the discussion in such a childisch manner?

This problem is going to be solved on basis of the situation at hand, the current situation. How they are driving at the moment.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Hamilton more involved in incidents than Max.
https://racingnews365.com/who-is-inv...-or-verstappen

I totally agree my friend !

"2019-2021"

[chuckthis]

I think this should have been the main event vs the actual race. So much epic-ness here:

S/O to Weber and DC for seemingly driving three-pedal GT3s

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

I totally agree my friend !

"2019-2021"

There can be no other conclusion, the experts went over it many times.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

When you eliminate the 12,000 events before 2019...sure. This is the saddest propaganda I've ever seen.

This is what RBR supporters depend on: Propaganda and Feelings. Objective data tells a different story.

Verstappen is a driver to be avoided on the track. Everyone gives him extra room. He's a menace on the track and a thug in the paddock. Just ask Ocon.

Everyone knows it , 'Ocon is a piece of '5H1T !

My goodness.."Who didn't noticed 'Ocon's hypocritical monkey face" ?