[cmyx6go]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

NYPD lost a 31-year-old officer earlier this week. He approached a car illegally parked in a bus stop, and was shot in the gut below his vest. The two occupants of the car were poster child examples of catch-and-release, and now a wife, young son, and the entire NYPD LEO family have to mourn.....

The shooter has 21 prior arrests.

Rest in Peace, Officer Diller.

[Watching The World Burn]

I feel like if I were the family member / spouse of the officer that got shot (or many others who have also been killed) by the dregs of human society who are just continually released with no consequences...I feel like it would be hard to not take justice into my own hands, since it seems clear the justice system is now just a system. It doesn't feel like it dispenses justice anymore.

I do wonder how long people will put up with it. I understand the system does not want us to perform street justice, nor is it necessarily a good thing, and even Biblically speaking, it says "vengeance is mine, I will repay says the Lord" instructing us not to seek vengeance, but it would still be hard I believe. Very hard.

I hate seeing these posts where officers lose their life to scumbags who ought to be in prison but are not due to our system.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by Watching The World Burn

I feel like if I were the family member / spouse of the officer that got shot (or many others who have also been killed) by the dregs of human society who are just continually released with no consequences...I feel like it would be hard to not take justice into my own hands, since it seems clear the justice system is now just a system. It doesn't feel like it dispenses justice anymore.

I do wonder how long people will put up with it. I understand the system does not want us to perform street justice, nor is it necessarily a good thing, and even Biblically speaking, it says "vengeance is mine, I will repay says the Lord" instructing us not to seek vengeance, but it would still be hard I believe. Very hard.

I hate seeing these posts where officers lose their life to scumbags who ought to be in prison but are not due to our system.

The term "Justice/system" is very misleading. I suspect if you speak to any victim of crime/violence after they have been through the system, "justice" is not a word they would use to describe the outcome. We have a legal system that has left behind the notion of justice or punishment for the idea of rehabilitation. The sad reality is there is no justice, precious little rehabilitation and the underlying function to keep society safe has long been abandoned.

[Watching The World Burn]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

The term "Justice/system" is very misleading. I suspect if you speak to any victim of crime/violence after they have been through the system, "justice" is not a word they would use to describe the outcome. We have a legal system that has left behind the notion of justice or punishment for the idea of rehabilitation. The sad reality is there is no justice, precious little rehabilitation and the underlying function to keep society safe has long been abandoned.

Agreed. Very much so. I may be making this up, but I had thought I learned in Grade 10 law class that the law was originally based on common sense (long time ago). If true, it no longer is.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by Watching The World Burn

Agreed. Very much so. I may be making this up, but I had thought I learned in Grade 10 law class that the law was originally based on common sense (long time ago). If true, it no longer is.

Most of the laws in North America are based on British Common Law, which takes a lot of its principals from Christian religion and values. If you look at the principals of laws, at least early laws, common sense certainly seemed to be a cornerstone principle.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

The term "Justice/system" is very misleading. I suspect if you speak to any victim of crime/violence after they have been through the system, "justice" is not a word they would use to describe the outcome. We have a legal system that has left behind the notion of justice or punishment for the idea of rehabilitation. The sad reality is there is no justice, precious little rehabilitation and the underlying function to keep society safe has long been abandoned.

This is spot on. To add to it, recidivism already demonstrates rehabilitation is nearly non-existent. Rehabilitation gets pushed because those in power want instability. It’s intentional.

[Pauly Wauly]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

The shooter has 21 prior arrests.

Rest in Peace, Officer Diller.

21 prior arrests

That brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "Catch and Release"

[cmyx6go]

Originally Posted by Pauly Wauly

21 prior arrests

That brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "Catch and Release"

It's ridiculous. It's like a revolving door. There are absolutely no consequences for bad behavior as far as criminals go. NYC needs to go back to broken windows and stop and frisk. If people get away with the little stuff, they just continue and go on to the big stuff. And now, they aren't even held on bail with freakin gun charges. It boggles my brain. All of a sudden the criminals are the victims.

[Pauly Wauly]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

It's ridiculous. It's like a revolving door. There are absolutely no consequences for bad behavior as far as criminals go. NYC needs to go back to broken windows and stop and frisk. If people get away with the little stuff, they just continue and go on to the big stuff. And now, they aren't even held on bail with freakin gun charges. It boggles my brain. All of a sudden the criminals are the victims.

I hear you, but it`s not just in NYC it`s everywhere in the world. It`s a sad truth, but it seems like criminals have more rights then law-abiding citizens.

[vreihen16]

Unfortunately, a certain well-known former national politician is allegedly going to attend this officer's funeral, and probably turn it into a circus instead of a respectful/dignified memorial.....

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

Unfortunately, a certain well-known former national politician is allegedly going to attend this officer's funeral, and probably turn it into a circus instead of a respectful/dignified memorial.....

If it’s who I think you are referring to considering the use of the word “circus”, that politician instituted machinations that resulted in a paid off mortgage for that dead officer’s family. No other politicians are doing anything for us and our families, so I’m all for his attendance.

If you were referring to someone else, then ignore my statement above.

[cmyx6go]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

If it’s who I think you are referring to considering the use of the word “circus”, that politician instituted machinations that resulted in a paid off mortgage for that dead officer’s family. I’m all for his attendance.

If you were referring to someone else, then ignore my statement above.

I don't know whether he should get credit for the mortgage being paid off. I read somewhere that he called the widow and moments later she got a call from Frank Siller, founder of Tunnel to Towers, informing her that the mortgage was being paid off. I'm a big supporter of Tunnel to Towers. They do this all the time.

EDIT - I'm not trashing him. He does support law enforcement. I just have doubts about him being the one to get credit for something Tunnel to Towers did.

https://t2t.org/fallen-first-responder-home-program/

[ezaircon4jc]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

Unfortunately, a certain well-known former national politician is allegedly going to attend this officer's funeral, and probably turn it into a circus instead of a respectful/dignified memorial.....

Let me guess just who will be creating said circus? It for sure won't be the attendee.

[gabriel.psd]

Post pics of your 911.
Heard it got new wheels.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by gabriel.psd

Post pics of your 911.
Heard it got new wheels.

Head on over to the banned thread. We post whore the Porsches over there.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Head on over to the banned thread. We post whore the Porsches over there.

What banned thread? I love pictures of Porsches.

[Pauly Wauly]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

What banned thread? I love pictures of Porsches.

This thread.......Best thread on Bimmerpost in a long time
https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1761187

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by Pauly Wauly

This thread.......Best thread on Bimmerpost in a long time
https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1761187

Why didn't I know this? Is this for people who got banned?

[Sedan_Clan]

Here’s a truncated video of the suicide in the station lobby.


https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5GLf...FpbGpwOHcxZGM2

[Pauly Wauly]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

Why didn't I know this? Is this for people who got banned?

No, it`s not only for banned people, but most of the people on there have been banned at least once for something meaningful.
If you have ever been banned on here that is certainly the right thread for you. I`m in there somewhere in the middle of the thread .....Anyway, after a while, Porsches took over the thread.

[Sedan_Clan]

Well this is spot on…

[Pauly Wauly]

Sedan_Clan finally came up with a solution to get his GT3 sooner rather than later