[F87source]

Some footage of the Ferrari driving over curbs. You can see how much it upsets the suspension and causes the car to bounce on this new suspension. The inerters and hydraulic suspension used last year was able to fully dampen this out and keep the car stable, but with this new more basic setup the cars can't tolerate it anymore.

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CafLMnd...dium=copy_link

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by F87source

Some footage of the Ferrari driving over curbs. You can see how much it upsets the suspension and causes the car to bounce on this new suspension. The inerters and hydraulic suspension used last year was able to fully dampen this out and keep the car stable, but with this new more basic setup the cars can't tolerate it anymore.

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CafLMnd...dium=copy_link

Not all of us are on social media, can you put it on normal channels.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Mate . As usual ,you are so F* stubborn ! Because the subject was MAX and Red Bull..

Do you want a new article from 'Yesterday March 2 + the source ?

Note : Don't be worried , the new 2022 HONDA PU will be strong enough to beat your dude HAM again !
You're such a damn HAM and Mercedes preacher ...
OK here we go again. I really hope that you can read it !

=> https://racingnews365.nl/marko-heeft...tor-verstappen

*****

Nothing on the ENG version of this, as usual yet plenty of how Merc want to 'investigate' this and that lol so typical.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Not all of us are on social media, can you put it on normal channels.

whoops my bad, normally it inbeds the video. I am not sure if I can find it elsewhere but let me try.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Not all of us are on social media, can you put it on normal channels.

No I can't embed this one for some reason. But it is a public video you can watch the clip without an instagram account, just click the link and it will play.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by F87source

No I can't embed this one for some reason. But it is a public video you can watch the clip without an instagram account, just click the link and it will play.

Nope it won't.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Nope it won't.

Ok I'm not sure why it's doing that. I'll try to figure it out.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

You implied a new Honda engine was coming soon, which means they are making a new engine. Because coming soon means not already available, this means it wasn't used in Barcelona.


I replied in post 676 that the article was old, hence the engine used in Barcelona was the reported new engine otherwise how will Honda get test data for the homologation date. Thus this "new" engine isn't coming soon it must be already used, or else honda will be making a big gamble if they have a new untested engine coming.

Again nothing I said was wrong.. Your article also proved what I said because marko mentioned that the new engine they used in Barcelona was as powerful as their competitors.




Btw I'm not insulting redbull or anything I'm just saying that's there engine in Barcelona, and there's nothing coming after March 1st.

Mate . Just sing your Mercedes song ...

[GuidoK]

Max Verstappen just extended his contract with RB until end 2028

https://racingnews365.com/verstappen...il-end-of-2028

And I think it figures. There has always been very good relations with Max and RB; never did Max blame the team when things were not so good (unlike others....), he always considers himself as part of the team.
He's been with RB since 2014 I think? (then still in the junior team)

[NYG]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

Max Verstappen just extended his contract with RB until end 2028

https://racingnews365.com/verstappen...il-end-of-2028

And I think it figures. There has always been very good relations with Max and RB; never did Max blame the team when things were not so good (unlike others....), he always considers himself as part of the team.
He's been with RB since 2014 I think? (then still in the junior team)

Max is Red Bull.

Red Bull is Max.

If LeClerc got that alleged contract from Ferrari then Max most certainly deserves this. I think the most realistic near future of F1 will be LeClerc v. Verstappen for a bit.

Norris with potential to be in there too but I think Russel may be overhyped although he has potential as well.

[NYG]

Finally the scumbags at Mercedes ban exports in Russia after VW Group and BMW did.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by NYG

Finally the scumbags at Mercedes ban exports in Russia after VW Group and BMW did.

Yeah they took their time about it

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

Max Verstappen just extended his contract with RB until end 2028

https://racingnews365.com/verstappen...il-end-of-2028

And I think it figures. There has always been very good relations with Max and RB; never did Max blame the team when things were not so good (unlike others....), he always considers himself as part of the team.
He's been with RB since 2014 I think? (then still in the junior team)

I am happy to hear this news.

[NickyC]

Can they dump the stupid masks please? Tired of looking at the nasty things and we’re moving on.

[irunalot]

Originally Posted by F87source

Some footage of the Ferrari driving over curbs. You can see how much it upsets the suspension and causes the car to bounce on this new suspension. The inerters and hydraulic suspension used last year was able to fully dampen this out and keep the car stable, but with this new more basic setup the cars can't tolerate it anymore.

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CafLMnd...dium=copy_link

Whoa that's the footage I have been waiting to see. No inerters makes a massive difference over the curbs. I'm going to miss those slow motion shots of one wheel oscillating over curbs while barely disturbing the rest of the car.

Honestly I'm not happy that they keep removing technology and innovation out of these cars to save money. I understand the finance behind it but I love the technology aspect as much as the racing. I used to watch Indy and IMSA back in the 80s and 90s but as soon as they went spec and BOP I stopped, and have not gone back. The racing is good but I want to see multiple aspects to racing. Design, engineering, driving and strategy. Remove one and I'm bored. Of course you can argue engineering within a set of technical and financial rules, but this is racing at the highest level and teams shouldn't be removing innovative technology. Just my 2 cents that doesn't matter 😀

[F87source]

Originally Posted by irunalot

Whoa that's the footage I have been waiting to see. No inerters makes a massive difference over the curbs. I'm going to miss those slow motion shots of one wheel oscillating over curbs while barely disturbing the rest of the car.

Honestly I'm not happy that they keep removing technology and innovation out of these cars to save money. I understand the finance behind it but I love the technology aspect as much as the racing. I used to watch Indy and IMSA back in the 80s and 90s but as soon as they went spec and BOP I stopped, and have not gone back. The racing is good but I want to see multiple aspects to racing. Design, engineering, driving and strategy. Remove one and I'm bored. Of course you can argue engineering within a set of technical and financial rules, but this is racing at the highest level and teams shouldn't be removing innovative technology. Just my 2 cents that doesn't matter 😀

Yeah imo there should be no bans on anything, and the FIA should allow the teams to keep pushing. F1 should be the pinnacle of technology so there should be no caps.

[M5Rick]

HAM's at it again having a moan and this time calling Max a bully with the way he drives. I guess he'll take his 'moaning mask' off before going to bed then wonder where he put it when he arises. I'm off for an early night and I'll laugh myself to sleep at this.

[MontyB1]

Originally Posted by F87source

Yeah imo there should be no bans on anything, and the FIA should allow the teams to keep pushing. F1 should be the pinnacle of technology so there should be no caps.

For a VERY long time the teams have been limited as to what materials they can use and the solutions they can follow.

Gone are the days the team would have 4 engines over a weekend, 60+ different exhausts, Specific engines, body and more just for Quali. Life has moved one, waste is rightly frowned upon and the people that used to bank role these things are no longer prepared to pay for the exorbitant costs.

F1 has to evolve and that’s why again engines will simplify even more in future and costs will need to reduce even more. It means Audi and others might join the sport though and keep it in rude health. Does that mean innovation is dead, absolutely not, engineers just need to work harder to come up with new ideas with the boundaries that they have.

Was the Shuttle good in the past but massively expensive on every flight, yes. And so F1 now needs to have its Elon Musk day in the lime light to reduce costs and progress on a firmer footing.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by MontyB1

For a VERY long time the teams have been limited as to what materials they can use and the solutions they can follow.

Gone are the days the team would have 4 engines over a weekend, 60+ different exhausts, Specific engines, body and more just for Quali. Life has moved one, waste is rightly frowned upon and the people that used to bank role these things are no longer prepared to pay for the exorbitant costs.

F1 has to evolve and that’s why again engines will simplify even more in future and costs will need to reduce even more. It means Audi and others might join the sport though and keep it in rude health. Does that mean innovation is dead, absolutely not, engineers just need to work harder to come up with new ideas with the boundaries that they have.

Was the Shuttle good in the past but massively expensive on every flight, yes. And so F1 now needs to have its Elon Musk day in the lime light to reduce costs and progress on a firmer footing.

I'm not talking about the wasteful side of F1, I'm talking about innovations and technology: inerter ban, hydraulic suspension ban, das ban, MGU H will soon be removed, etc etc.

[irunalot]

I'm not saying bring back qualy engines super exotic metals and throw away parts. I see nothing wrong with highly engineered suspensions, even active to a degree as it's production relative as they always say. The MGU-H is incredible and and the amount of money that's already been spent will some be wasted. At this point we are going back to the 90s suspensions that's not advancing IMHO.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

HAM's at it again having a moan and this time calling Max a bully with the way he drives. I guess he'll take his 'moaning mask' off before going to bed then wonder where he put it when he arises. I'm off for an early night and I'll laugh myself to sleep at this.

That is correct , earlier today I saw the article ...

HAM has forgotten his murder attempt at Silverstone !

[Foghorn]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

HAM has forgotten his murder attempt at Silverstone !

New season, same old nonsense. Too bad you missed the whole thing about rules being applied inconsistently. You had the whole winter to catch up.