[speedgod]

Check out RUNCO.... end of sentence. :rocks:
http://www.runco.com/


SG

[LENELSA]

Plasma is still the way to go . LCD still needs perfecting.
Pioneer Elite if you have the $$$$$$
Panasonic is great bang for the buck.

SXRD by Sony is Awesome but you can't hang it on the wall ........

[carlson335]

Originally Posted by speedgod

Check out RUNCO.... end of sentence. :rocks:
http://www.runco.com/


SG

+1

Basically just an Elite screen with better electronics.

[speedgod]

Originally Posted by carlson335

+1

Basically just an Elite screen with better electronics.

Picture quality if set up correctly on the Runco with the scaler is soo much nicer than the Pioneer.

BTW like the B&W's 703's?


SG

[Brunotheboxer]

Originally Posted by carlson335

+1

Basically just an Elite screen with better electronics.

runco is waaay overpriced. their 65 inch 1080 plasma retails for something ridiculous. its like $20,000. Greeeat purchase even if it goes on sale for 50% off. I'll admit they make great front projectors but too overpriced for what you actually get. so even if money is no object i would not recommend runco and in fact if i remember correctly they were bought out a little while back.

[imolazhp_ci]

Originally Posted by NoTrash

if you want the best possible 50 inch 1080p plasma and have the cash to spend....... http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...069731,00.html

I have a 50 inch panasonic that is only 1080i but its gorgeous picture. i dunno the model number thou

yep. that's what my dad has. i've never seen a better tv ever. anywhere... i have a sony 40 inch 1080P and it looks like dried out shit compared to that.

[speedgod]

Originally Posted by Brunotheboxer

runco is waaay overpriced. their 65 inch 1080 plasma retails for something ridiculous. its like $20,000. Greeeat purchase even if it goes on sale for 50% off. I'll admit they make great front projectors but too overpriced for what you actually get. so even if money is no object i would not recommend runco and in fact if i remember correctly they were bought out a little while back.

Yes you are correct in that they were purchased. However Sam Runco is still one of the VP's.

If you are ever able to compare a set up Runco vs. anything, there is not much to compare. You can get a 42-50" plasma with a scaler from 7-12k. If money is no object and you want the best, I and many others would agree you can't beat a Runco.

SG

[Brunotheboxer]

Originally Posted by speedgod

Yes you are correct in that they were purchased. However Sam Runco is still one of the VP's.

If you are ever able to compare a set up Runco vs. anything, there is not much to compare. You can get a 42-50" plasma with a scaler from 7-12k. If money is no object and you want the best, I and many others would agree you can't beat a Runco.

SG

wait until you see the new (8g) elites.

[ScottyGams]

Originally Posted by Viral

can you please explain the difference in 1080i VS 1080p? Is the diference really visible to the eye? Is it worth to wait for the full 1080p products? Any help would be great!

i mostly let you guys go on this board, because it will only turn in to a 25+ on 1 if I speak my mind on this issue. there are a lot of people in this thread that have no idea wtf they are talking about.

It has been tested in broad appeal (meaning having people age 10 to 80 look at the television) and people as a vast majority cannot see the difference between 1080p and 720p after 10 feet away on a 50". Back when I was selling TVs, unless the guy was made of money, I did not sell 1080p 40", as you would literally have to be right on top of the television to tell the difference. If you are getting a 60", 1080p makes a world of difference.

TO answer your question, if you are thinking about getting a HDTV that ONLY scales to 1080i...pass. 1080i is the oldest resolution in High Def, and nothing (example: Playstation 3, Blu-Ray Players) like to scale to it. 1080p is effectively DOUBLE the rez of 1080i, so it is a big deal.

Remember guys, however, that you need a source to play on your brand spanking new TV. Besides next gen DVD, there is NOTHING in 1080p. And remember, the higher resolution your TV, the more your standard def looks like ass... because there is a higher percentage of missing information the graphical processor in the television has to make up.

I am a big fan of Pioneer, but they tend to jack up prices on their Elite line for no value proposition to the customer.

Panasonic makes a great plasma product. Best bang for your buck... no wonder they are the best selling plasma in the world.

Samsung is a good product. I really don't like the bashing of samsung. I find it very funny that people think Samsung make an inferior product than Sony, when Sony buys a lot of screens of Samsung due to lack of supply. Hate to break it to the ignorant, but Samsung's consumer electronics divison (read: take out computers and gaming) has a larger world market share than Sony. Samsung TVs offer you great stats. They have great contrast ratios, good refresh rate, and a good price. They are kind of like Infiniti... great stats on paper...

My only problem with Samsung is that the DNiE (Digital Natural Image Enhancement) which is Samsung's Video Processor Engine, does not do as good a job with making your television look better, and does not have many tweeking options. As of right now, we can not supply good enough feeds to supply our TVs with matching resolution. Therefore that video processor is a really big deal. If everything was in 1080p, all TVs would look great!

[mklimis]

Originally Posted by ScottyGams

Sony buys a lot of screens of Samsung due to lack of supply

That is false.

Originally Posted by ScottyGams

They have great contrast ratios, good refresh rate, and a good price.

A. Since NO standard exists for measuring contrast, Samsungs over inflated contrast ratio numbers dont actually mean anything. Not to mention they are not even representative of their real world results.

B. 8ms response time was great 3-4 years ago. Samsung just never got the memo.

c. Samsung is in the same price line as its direct competition......toshiba, sony, philips, panasonic, lg, jvc, etc...




So how is that Samsung has an edge over everyone?

[ScottyGams]

shut up, don't disagree for the sake of disagreeing. You hate Samsung for some reason... good for you. I speak from knowledge.

I am no Samsung fanboy, you are just bitter for some reason. I never said Samsung has an edge over anybody.

[ScBlacksunshine]

Originally Posted by ScottyGams

I am no Samsung fanboy, you are just bitter for some reason. I never said Samsung has an edge over anybody.

Maybe cause he is Japanese?

[OC Guy]

Given same models/pricing, Panasonic > Samsung IMO. I honestly think Panasonic makes the best Plasma for its price, just take it off its default Vivid mode.

[ScottyGams]

Originally Posted by ScBlacksunshine

Maybe cause he is Japanese?

haha... ok good point... all is forgiven! Samsung Sucks!

[ScottyGams]

Originally Posted by OC 335i

Given same models/pricing, Panasonic > Samsung IMO. I honestly think Panasonic makes the best Plasma for its price, just take it off its default Vivid mode.

i agree. As I stated before, I think Panasonic is the best bang for the buck. I don't know where I said that Samsung was the best, I just won't say to take JVC/ LG/ Toshiba over a korean built model.

I remember this thread having the point of helping out the OP.

To recap, we have a lot of fans of Pioneer and Fujitsu

Panasonic is a safe choice in Plasma. Sharp is good in LCD (but watch that refresh rate as it goes above the 50")

Samsung is... going to get me attacked apparently if I say they are anything else other then they are manufactured in Hitler's a$$hole.

[mklimis]

[QUOTE=ScottyGams;1110385]shut up, don't disagree for the sake of disagreeing. You hate Samsung for some reason... good for you. I speak from knowledge.

I am no Samsung fanboy, you are just bitter for some reason. I never said Samsung has an edge over anybody.[/QUOT

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550 Nit brightness; 800:1 contrast; 1920 x 1080 resolution

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[Solar Film Specialist]

Scotty, our brand TOTE VISION has lots of "tweeking options", is 1080p & compatible with older players/lower res rates. I guess we are seeing things eye-to-eye, no? Now you know SOLAR FILM SPECIALIST also distributes great LCD/HDTV technology!

[528imsport]

I have a 50" Panasonic plasma which I got last year and itis good but not full HD.
I would get the new LCD Sharp, full HD and itis the best on the market right now.
Dont get plasma, itis outdated now, LCD is much better

[anerbe]

Originally Posted by pinguhk

I have a 50" Panasonic plasma which I got last year and itis good but not full HD.
I would get the new LCD Sharp, full HD and itis the best on the market right now.
Dont get plasma, itis outdated now, LCD is much better

which Panasonic 50" did you get? I got a 600u and it's actual HD (720p). If your set has a resolution of 1366x768, it should be. However, I agree that the sets that aren't 1920x1080 cannot show pictures in full 1080p/i.

taken from pioneer's website:
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...105648,00.html

Pixels

Another way to compare the two is by looking at their pixel count (pixel is short for "picture elements", the individually addressable areas of light and shadow on your screen). The 720p format creates an image with 720 lines, each with 1280 pixels, so it has a resolution of 1280 x 720. The 1080i format creates an image with 1080 lines, each with 1920 pixels, so its resolution is a higher 1920 x 1080. Denser pixels = a better picture.

When you're shopping for a new TV, remember this: at a minimum, an HDTV television-whether it's a projection television, plasma display, or traditional CRT type-must be able to display images at a minimum of 1080i or 720p. A "digital TV" or "digital-ready TV" or "EDTV-ready TV" that doesn't meet this spec cannot deliver HDTV! You would still get the improvement of digital TV over analog, but you wouldn't be ready for HDTV, which is the future of broadcasting.

[OC Guy]

Originally Posted by pinguhk

I have a 50" Panasonic plasma which I got last year and itis good but not full HD.
I would get the new LCD Sharp, full HD and itis the best on the market right now.
Dont get plasma, itis outdated now, LCD is much better

We have a Sharp LCD and a Panasonic Plasma. I prefer our Panasonic more.

[anerbe]

http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com