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      07-14-2011, 04:58 PM   #45
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      07-14-2011, 05:06 PM   #46
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If you want to compare the Netflix service to an M3, you must compare apples to apples. I look at this increase by percentage and what you currently got, vs what you will get after the increase. In the case of Netflix, there is no added difference in service besides maybe more titles, but we weren't in control of that before the hike either. With a 60% increase, an M3 would cost $128,000(assuming a base of $80k). Since Netflix has no contract agreements, lets say your M3 lease is not a contract either. If your monthly M3 payment increased from $1,000 to $1,600 would you stay?
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      07-14-2011, 05:08 PM   #47
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IMO getting bent out of shape over $8 is not stupidity. Ironically, people who cant afford their house payments probably think that $8 for a Netflix increase is miniscule too.
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      07-14-2011, 05:11 PM   #48
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Stupidity is thinking that you're entitled to something. Stupidity is getting bent out of shape over $8. The service was previously FREE and now it is $8.
Stupidity is meekly rolling over when confronted with something that doesn't make sense. Does $8 really matter? No, but a 60% hike with no additional service does. It wasn't free before, it was simply included in the existing pricing. If I could have received it for free without my existing membership, then it would have been free.

If you're cool with that, fine, but I'll ditch Netflix and work around the inconvenience of getting my Amazon Prime videos to my tv and use iTunes occasionally.

I've already used more than $8 of words on this, and I really don't care enough to respond, so make it funny.
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If you want to compare the Netflix service to an M3, you must compare apples to apples. I look at this increase by percentage and what you currently got, vs what you will get after the increase. In the case of Netflix, there is no added difference in service besides maybe more titles, but we weren't in control of that before the hike either. With a 60% increase, an M3 would cost $128,000(assuming a base of $80k). Since Netflix has no contract agreements, lets say your M3 lease is not a contract either. If your monthly M3 payment increased from $1,000 to $1,600 would you stay?
Percentage is irrelevant. How about forget what you WERE paying before and just look at the current price and what they are currently offering. If Netflix just started today, would you complain?
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Percentage is irrelevant. How about forget what you WERE paying before and just look at the current price and what they are currently offering. If Netflix just started today, would you complain?
this.

The relationship is largely irrelevant because you're in no contractual agreement.
Which again is why I don't understand why people are bitching on such a large scale. Let your pockets do the talking....
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Stupidity is thinking that you're entitled to something. Stupidity is getting bent out of shape over $8. The service was previously FREE and now it is $8.
that's a fucking hilarious skit, and awesome
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      07-14-2011, 05:50 PM   #52
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Stupidity is meekly rolling over when confronted with something that doesn't make sense. Does $8 really matter? No, but a 60% hike with no additional service does. It wasn't free before, it was simply included in the existing pricing. If I could have received it for free without my existing membership, then it would have been free.

If you're cool with that, fine, but I'll ditch Netflix and work around the inconvenience of getting my Amazon Prime videos to my tv and use iTunes occasionally.

I've already used more than $8 of words on this, and I really don't care enough to respond, so make it funny.
Well, let's look at it this way: Prior to the streaming, your only option from Netflix was to mail in a single disk and wait 48 hours for the next title to arrive. That was 100% of the functionality of the service and nobody complained. Suddenly they spontaneously added streaming content including some recent movies, many old classics that I love having access to, amazing documentaries that most customers would never have been exposed to, and countless full TV series. That streaming service added probably 10x the functionality to the disk service and those greedy fucking bastards charged the outrageous price of absolutely nothing. Now, a few YEARS after the streaming became active and people are now able to view the material on everything from Apple TV to iPhones to PS3s, the same company that gave you that material for free (while they were being charged for it) for 2+ years has decided to begin charging as much as the single disc service for this streaming service.

Who are the greedy ones again?
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just dropped the dvd option i hardly ever took dvds out anyway. if I'm paying 8 bucks just for streaming now they better improve their movie selections I would drop netfilxs and go to amazon prime but i don't think you can use that on xbox yet....
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Well, let's look at it this way: Prior to the streaming, your only option from Netflix was to mail in a single disk and wait 48 hours for the next title to arrive. That was 100% of the functionality of the service and nobody complained. Suddenly they spontaneously added streaming content including some recent movies, many old classics that I love having access to, amazing documentaries that most customers would never have been exposed to, and countless full TV series. That streaming service added probably 10x the functionality to the disk service and those greedy fucking bastards charged the outrageous price of absolutely nothing. Now, a few YEARS after the streaming became active and people are now able to view the material on everything from Apple TV to iPhones to PS3s, the same company that gave you that material for free (while they were being charged for it) for 2+ years has decided to begin charging as much as the single disc service for this streaming service.

Who are the greedy ones again?

I'm so damn happy that not everyone in this forum feels entitled to something. Thank you good sir, thank you.

(again I would like to stress my opinion is on the fact that this is a capitalistic society where money talks, and you are not attached to a contract)
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      07-14-2011, 05:58 PM   #55
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I look at it as a good thing. I rarely used the streaming service, so my disc plan just went down in price.
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      07-14-2011, 06:01 PM   #56
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Kind of interesting what they are doing, obviously the content owner was more of a cut, also it could be that Netflix really wants people off DVDs, but that means they need more recent content on streaming.

I know everyone is complaining about the price, however, why did you get in the first place. I can tell we only got for the kids, we put in the theater room and the next thing I knew the kids are heading to blockbuster and renting a number of movies and inviting the friends over, before I knew it we were paying $15 to $20 every weekend to rent DVDs. So I decide it was cheaper to go to netflix then my kids stream as much as they wanted, well a few months later content they were interested ran out and we began getting DVDs, some weeks we go through 2 or 3 and other times they would sit in the mail pile for a week or so.

It is a hard decision, but I think we will drop the DVD portion and hopes they can improve the streaming content.

If we really want to see a new movie before it goes to DVD we can do PPV on Directv and pay $4.99 which is still less than going to the theater.
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      07-14-2011, 06:06 PM   #57
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You've got it a little backwards. The price of streaming was free for existing customers with the lowest level pay plan (1 disc plan) which was $7.99. The only people who couldn't get it were those using free trial plans. The only real change here is that the streaming service is no longer free to existing DVD customers. It now costs $7.99 for unlimited access to the streaming service.

To summarize, the old price for the streaming service was $0, it is now $7.99 for unlimited access.
Depends on when you signed up. When I signed up (intending to do streaming only), it was $7.99/mo. During the sign-up process, they said "add 1 disc at a time for only $2.00 more per month!" So I said sure, that sounds reasonable. Since then, I've been quite unimpressed with the streaming selection, as well as constantly having the Samsung TV lose/drop the device authorization. So it was a marginal value at $10/month for both, and getting the same exact service after a 60% price hike is a non-starter. I've already got tons of other entertainment choices, so the increased cost was the final straw....

I can spend less at Redbox in a month (we don't watch 7 movies a month via DVD), and pass on the lousy streaming options, and I still come out ahead.

But if you've had the disc service with "free streaming" for a longer time, then it is a different discussion I think. If you didn't use the streaming, and it now reduces your price for the "disc at a time" service, then it seems like a good idea. But for the more recent subscribers, it is a different situation.
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I don't understand why people are flipping out over this.

Netflix is worth exactly what you think it is worth. If you feel that $16/month is too much, then unsubscribe. No one is telling you not to. If you feel that amount of money is well spent on Netflix, then keep your subscription.

Netflix is under no obligation to provide incredibly cheap entertainment at the cost of their business. They will charge exactly what they want to charge, and it's your choice if you stay or go. There are other options out there, too - Netflix isn't exactly a monopoly.

Simple economics people, remember that MR = MC and price elasticity of demand, it will keep you in good stead. Netflix is obviously banking on product demand being relatively inelastic
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I don't understand why people are flipping out over this.

Netflix is worth exactly what you think it is worth. If you feel that $16/month is too much, then unsubscribe. No one is telling you not to. If you feel that amount of money is well spent on Netflix, then keep your subscription.

Netflix is under no obligation to provide incredibly cheap entertainment at the cost of their business. They will charge exactly what they want to charge, and it's your choice if you stay or go. There are other options out there, too - Netflix isn't exactly a monopoly.

Simple economics people, remember that MR = MC and price elasticity of demand, it will keep you in good stead. Netflix is obviously banking on product demand being relatively inelastic

eeexactly
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lmao nice
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I opt for streaming only and i will just download all the movies they require you to Rent via DVD.

Doesn't anyone use torrents or usenet?

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I look at it as a good thing. I rarely used the streaming service, so my disc plan just went down in price.
same here.
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Already heard a couple of long time subscribers I know who have canceled their plans. Seems like Netflix screwed up here...
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Already heard a couple of long time subscribers I know who have canceled their plans. Seems like Netflix screwed up here...
I bet they lose 5-10% of their subscribers but the price increase will more than compensate.
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