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10-25-2023, 04:10 PM | #48 |
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I’ll try to add a perspective I haven’t seen in the thread. I currently have an ESS supercharged E90 M3 (6MT, roughly 635 bhp) and I’ve also owned “high torque” GM cars (notably a moderately modified C6 Z06). My opinion is almost purely based on physics (can’t comment on the woman). When we discuss supercharged E9X M3s, the centrifugal vs. Harrop debate often comes up. You’ll often see negatives about centrifugal setups but frankly there is one positive - the lower torque significantly benefits traction. You just don’t need to feather the throttle like you do in a HO or SC LS engine car. You nail it and it goes, like the S65 and chassis were made for it. If you look at our fast list, based on the quickest 60-130 mph time for an ESS 6MT E9X M3, the math works out to a quarter mile time of about 11.0 s at 130 mph. For comparison, the latest C&D long term test of the CT5V BW (and they beat the shit out of loaners) put it at 11.7 s at 124 mph. Different cars, different drivers, different conditions. But I’m willing to bet the CT5V BW’s weight and traction issues played a significant role. My old Z06 on PS4S tires used to scare the shit out of me in temperatures lower than 50 deg. My M3 on the same tires is very composed in the same conditions, similarly worthless in poor conditions, but no fear of going sideways into the woods at 80 mph.
So all that being said, you will never get back what you put into the M3. I’m probably up to a total of about $110k (yeah insane) but I went all out and even replaced all valve springs for added reliability. If I sold it tomorrow I’d be lucky to get $50k. The Cadillac may depreciate but I’d doubt it would depreciate 55% in 1-2 years. Food for thought. Both cars offer incredible fun! Last edited by highrevs; 10-25-2023 at 04:29 PM.. |
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10-26-2023, 08:20 AM | #49 |
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Right but why push the M3 to 600HP? At that point sure go BW or whatever but for street driving it's borderline stupid.
IMHO the M3 is a special car, spend $10K on it to really clean it up and drive it till it fucking does. |
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I have never complained about having too much power — only too little. A stock M3 needs some waking up in my opinion — they typically make about 340 rwhp. I did a lot of NA mods on mine but got to the point where I was going forced induction if I kept it, and my thought coming from about 400 rwhp was that about 550 rwhp would be good.
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10-26-2023, 01:38 PM | #52 |
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I have 700 rwhp in a 3200 lb car — turbo E36 M3.
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10-26-2023, 02:26 PM | #53 |
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So i wring out 3rd gear and I am at 140kmh in no time which is lose your license territory. Wwhat i'd do with near double the horse power is beyond me. If it was free, sure, but it isn't. Literally no idea where and how you use that power on the street.
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10-26-2023, 04:45 PM | #55 |
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Try joining or starting a 24 hours of lemons team or look for rental seats fpr the events. 700-900 is average price for an arrive and drive at 24hrs of lemons. And if that not enough speed maybe a Chump or AER seat.
Race car these days going at it alone is a loose loose situation and no more Naked is even worse. |
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10-26-2023, 07:54 PM | #58 | |
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I’m putting in the 10k in parts to the E90 to get it up to spec for a while. I fell into the stroker rabbit hole for a couple days, and I’ve convinced myself that it’s 40-50k well spent … but if I’m being honest, hopefully the BW’s will depreciate down into the 70-80k range in a couple years, and I’ll just pick one up and keep the E90 for fun. |
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Anyhow, parts are showing up, so time to get to work. |
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