F1 2023: Italian GP - Monza (Sept 3)

Killed by Death · 09-01-2023, 01:10 PM

For the Perez apologist out there....See 1:30

toxik · 09-01-2023, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Killed by Death

For the Perez apologist out there....See 1:30

i still don't understand why Horner is the biggest apologist for him, even last week. i thought horner is supposed to be a hard-ass and demands a lot of his drivers.

Killed by Death · 09-01-2023, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by toxik

i still don't understand why Horner is the biggest apologist for him, even last week. i thought horner is supposed to be a hard-ass and demands a lot of his drivers.

MONEY!!!

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/103141...ez-s-f1-career

Car-Addicted · 09-01-2023, 02:07 PM

There can be no worse job in Formula One than being Max Verstappen's team mate. Well maybe Ferrari pit strategist?

The only reason you guys are hanging on Checo's sack is you think your guy could do better.
Checo is number two in points.
Checo has not crashed Max Verstappen out like other team mate parings.

For those with a short memory

M5Rick · 09-01-2023, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Killed by Death

For the Perez apologist out there....See 1:30

Looking for the limits

Reasons to be cheerful is that Carlos is quickest in FP2

Killed by Death · 09-01-2023, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

There can be no worse job in Formula One than being Max Verstappen's team mate. Well maybe Ferrari pit strategist?

The only reason you guys are hanging on Checo's sack is you think your guy could do better.
Checo is number two in points.
Checo has not crashed Max Verstappen out like other team mate parings.

For those with a short memory

2nd in points means nothing, he has the BEST car. PER is only 33 points clear of Alonzo. He sucks!!!

2023 results so far:

2
1
5
1
2
16
4
6
3
6
3
2
4

I don't understand how anybody finds that acceptable

///M Power-Belgium · 09-01-2023, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Killed by Death

2nd in points means nothing, he has the BEST car. PER is only 33 points clear of Alonzo. He sucks!!!

2023 results so far:

2
1
5
1
2
16
4
6
3
6
3
2
4

I don't understand how anybody finds that acceptable

Good news for Ferrari : Ferrari had the fastest topspeed from 336 km/h !

Charlie and Sainz got a new PU ..

Red Bull got balance issues . They have some work to do for tomorrow ...

Blindside_137 · 09-01-2023, 06:08 PM

Anyone know how to live stream qualifying or replay practice?

I learned today that my cable company is apparently feuding with Disney and I can’t watch on my ESPN account or live tv.

HeelToeShift · 09-01-2023, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Killed by Death

2nd in points means nothing, he has the BEST car. PER is only 33 points clear of Alonzo. He sucks!!!

2023 results so far:

2
1
5
1
2
16
4
6
3
6
3
2
4

I don't understand how anybody finds that acceptable

I think Per is solid. Sure he could perform better but over the past 35 races he still has more points than any driver besides Max, and has more wins than MB drivers combine and as many as both Fer drivers combined. Say what you may, but that speaks enough especially when considering in his hands the RB is maybe the 4th or 5th fastest car.

///M Power-Belgium · 09-01-2023, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

I think Per is solid. Sure he could perform better but over the past 35 races he still has more points than any driver besides Max, and has more wins than MB drivers combine and as many as both Fer drivers combined. Say what you may, but that speaks enough especially when considering in his hands the RB is maybe the 4th or 5th fastest car.

We see a big contrast between MAX and Checo , that's why we think Checo is a bad driver .

I wouldn't like to be MAX's teammate ...

///M Power-Belgium · 09-01-2023, 07:54 PM

toxik · 09-01-2023, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Blindside_137

Anyone know how to live stream qualifying or replay practice?

I learned today that my cable company is apparently feuding with Disney and I can’t watch on my ESPN account or live tv.

Pm Sent

///M Power-Belgium · 09-01-2023, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Killed by Death

MONEY!!!

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/103141...ez-s-f1-career

NickyC · 09-01-2023, 11:52 PM

The collapse of Perez is just painful to watch right now. It's truly remarkable what Max's performance in Miami did to him. He's permanently shook, career over.

M5Rick · 09-02-2023, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Good news for Ferrari : Ferrari had the fastest topspeed from 336 km/h !

Charlie and Sainz got a new PU ..

Red Bull got balance issues . They have some work to do for tomorrow ...

336kph... That's 209mph! Roll on FP3

Artemis · 09-02-2023, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Killed by Death

For the Perez apologist out there....See 1:30

Conclusion #1 of that video: please more gravel traps on F1 circuits.

Drivers negotiate a turn differently if it features a gravel trap: no margin for taking liberties - violating track limits could result into entanglement with other cars, car damage, loss of track position and possibly even DNF.

In a way, gravel traps improve safety in a precautionary way: the driver is very aware that he (litterally) must steer clear from ending up in a gravel trap, that he must respect the track limits. But, true, once inside a gravel trap, brakes and steering are as good as to no avail anymore, a treacherous situation for the pilot's safety.

Car-Addicted · 09-02-2023, 07:08 AM

Formula One: We walk to the track to reduce Co2. What a bunch of moralist idiots. You travel around the world to race cars. Own it!

M5Rick · 09-02-2023, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Formula One: We walk to the track to reduce Co2. What a bunch of moralist idiots. You travel around the world to race cars. Own it!

M5Rick · 09-02-2023, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

That looks like Lando on the left there standing...as Brown screams 'Norris! come back here!!!

M5Rick · 09-02-2023, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Good news for Ferrari : Ferrari had the fastest topspeed from 336 km/h !

Charlie and Sainz got a new PU ..

Red Bull got balance issues . They have some work to do for tomorrow ...

If anyone can,RB can but Ferrari have new rocket PU's so quali will be interesting to say the least so I'm a little concerned but not overly worried.
Perez has to get his s*it in order and back Max up.

HeelToeShift · 09-02-2023, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by NickyC

The collapse of Perez is just painful to watch right now. It's truly remarkable what Max's performance in Miami did to him. He's permanently shook, career over.

I don't think anyone in F1 would be able to do materially better in Checo's car. I wish RB would let Ham drive the car next to Max to show him just how mediocre he is in comparison to Max. That would be a humbling experience for him. To that point, it's the same reason I doubt he'll ever try his hand at Indy car - too much driver skill involved and he simply looks plumb average when his car is not 5 standard deviations better than the next best one. Those MB years were like me grabbing a GT2 RS Clubsport and saying you get a base 911 on snow tires, let's see who wins. That was a car ANYONE could win in with ease.

M5Rick · 09-02-2023, 08:28 AM

As Sainz nips FP3, Checo explains his off yesterday with little or no damage to car.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/v...?minutetv=true

09-01-2023, 01:10 PM	#45
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