[shoei]

Originally Posted by TheWatchGuy

hes already been cut... He is most likely going to be paying back a significant portion of his signing bonus as well. $10mill signing bonus, that he will get to keep a few million from, and his ~1mill salary from last season leaves him with probably not a lot of money with how young NFL players typically spend their money.

bail was set as it typically was for this type of flight risk. bail isnt supposed to be a punishment. that is what the trial and subsequent sentencing is. bail is just another incentive to make sure they show up for trial.

That's not how the NFLPA works. Releasing a player doesn't guarantee you don't have to pay or you can recoup your spendings. Even a half-wit attorney can easily say - "Recoup his prior salaries? Please show the court how his alleged (speaking as the attorney not my personal opinion) DUI in Oct 2021 impacted the team in any way shape or form in September of 2021. August, July. Better yet, show us how it impacted the team in 2020."

Please don't get me wrong. He royally fucked up. Period. The book should be thrown at him - he took an innocent life (well, two lives, including the golden retriever) I'm just saying, there's attorneys out there that can minimize the damage he will absorb. The bigger impact will be how Ruggs carries himself from now until trial.

As for the bail, my comment was in reference to the state. State requested 1 mil for bail. Didn't happen.

Lastly. He already hired the best of the best. Durst's former attorney. DiCaprio. Mike Tyson. Ronaldo. List goes on.

Like I said. This is how the world works. Unfortunately or in the case of a select few, fortunately.

[mjr24]

Originally Posted by shoei

That's not how the NFLPA works. Releasing a player doesn't guarantee you don't have to pay or you can recoup your spendings. Even a half-wit attorney can easily say - "Recoup his prior salaries? Please show the court how his alleged (speaking as the attorney not my personal opinion) DUI in Oct 2021 impacted the team in any way shape or form in September of 2021. August, July. Better yet, show us how it impacted the team in 2020."

Please don't get me wrong. He royally fucked up. Period. The book should be thrown at him - he took an innocent life (well, two lives, including the golden retriever) I'm just saying, there's attorneys out there that can minimize the damage he will absorb. The bigger impact will be how Ruggs carries himself from now until trial.

As for the bail, my comment was in reference to the state. State requested 1 mil for bail. Didn't happen.

Lastly. He already hired the best of the best. Durst's former attorney. DiCaprio. Mike Tyson. Ronaldo. List goes on.

Like I said. This is how the world works. Unfortunately or in the case of a select few, fortunately.

It's absolutely irrelevant who his attorney is in a case like this....there is video and very few facts unknown. His past clients do not matter.

It's a shame for everyone involved, Ruggs included. Everyone has probably driven when they shouldn't have....and consequences can range from feeling like shit the next day due to a hangover....to saying something to someone you regretted....to just getting a normal DUI.....to what happened to Ruggs. He obviously didn't mean for this to happen, he is a young person who didn't know how to control his alcohol or car and that's a bad mix. It's just tragic all around.

I am still shocked though how you can be alive at 156....I've never felt confident to go over 115 (and that's on an empty 4-lanes each direction highway in the middle of the night with no one around).

[F32Fleet]

iirc the min sentence is 2yrs. Riggs IS going to prison. The life he wanted is gone forever. It's truly tragic when you know this guy didn't have people who would look out for him. Hell even the NFL will pay for an athletes drive home.

People forget he's still just a kid at 22 yrs old which btw it's around this age when the male brain begins to exit adolescence.

[tcphoto]

He was at Top Golf with the girlfriend drinking and thought that he'd test the Corvette out on the empty street. His BAC was twice the limit, crashed and was belligerent to the Police and Medical Professionals at the hospital. I suspect that he'll spend at least a few years in prison never play in the NFL again and will lose everything in a Civil suit from the victims family. It makes you wonder why he didn't call a friend or get a Lyft or cab.

[aliiin]

This is just so tragic. A woman and her dog lost their life and now their friends and family have to serve a life sentence because of the idiotic actions of another. This guy was going 150+ in a residential area? Hope he gets the book thrown at him. I had a friend killed by a drunk driver running a red light. It makes me so angry when people drink and drive, like wtf is wrong with people? Nothing is worth getting behind the wheel under the influence. None. Absolutely nothing.

[shoei]

Originally Posted by mjr24

It's absolutely irrelevant who his attorney is in a case like this....there is video and very few facts unknown. His past clients do not matter.

It's a shame for everyone involved, Ruggs included. Everyone has probably driven when they shouldn't have....and consequences can range from feeling like shit the next day due to a hangover....to saying something to someone you regretted....to just getting a normal DUI.....to what happened to Ruggs. He obviously didn't mean for this to happen, he is a young person who didn't know how to control his alcohol or car and that's a bad mix. It's just tragic all around.

I am still shocked though how you can be alive at 156....I've never felt confident to go over 115 (and that's on an empty 4-lanes each direction highway in the middle of the night with no one around).

What do you mean - "it's irrelevant who his attorney is." I can't even process how that even comes out of somebodies mouth. This isn't just US specific but equally if not more heinous shit has happened where people have walked BY having that kind of attorney.

I'm not advocating for Ruggs to walk. Im merely stating how the world works. This isn't what I want, just how I know the legal system to work. I hope they throw the book at him - Las Vegas and Nevada have a huge decision to make. One of the largest hurdles they had to face when winning a NFL team was? How would young athletes handle the city. This isn't going to help their cause to land a NBA team. They either have to make him an example or set the tone for future athletes.

[SickGTR]

Originally Posted by shoei

What do you mean - "it's irrelevant who his attorney is." I can't even process how that even comes out of somebodies mouth. This isn't just US specific but equally if not more heinous shit has happened where people have walked BY having that kind of attorney.

I'm not advocating for Ruggs to walk. Im merely stating how the world works. This isn't what I want, just how I know the legal system to work. I hope they throw the book at him - Las Vegas and Nevada have a huge decision to make. One of the largest hurdles they had to face when winning a NFL team was? How would young athletes handle the city. This isn't going to help their cause to land a NBA team. They either have to make him an example or set the tone for future athletes.

The dude was at Top golf brother. They are in every city now. Not like he was at some killer night club. I understand what you are saying. Most would think he was at some strip/night club. Just wasn't the case. I hope he gets the full penalty as much as anyone

[upstatedoc]

My 9 year old and his friend are playing catch in the front yard and they both say he is going to get 26 years. You heard it here first

[Germanauto]

Terrible for all parties involved and affected family/friends. 23 yrs old, from the hood and handed millions, WR position (stereotypically the most egotistical), alcohol, Corvette = entitlement and invincible feeling individual.

We've all made bad decisions, and driving after even a drink or two in our systems is something many people are guilty of, but this is a whole 'nother level of some shit.

First this, then the Erin Rodgers debacle. Rough week for the NFL. This is in addition to the Meyer and Gruden sagas.

[SickGTR]

Originally Posted by Germanauto

Terrible for all parties involved and affected family/friends. 23 yrs old, from the hood and handed millions, WR position (stereotypically the most egotistical), alcohol, Corvette = entitlement and invincible feeling individual.

We've all made bad decisions, and driving after even a drink or two in our systems is something many people are guilty of, but this is a whole 'nother level of some shit.

First this, then the Erin Rodgers debacle. Rough week for the NFL. This is in addition to the Meyer and Gruden sagas.

I'm a huge NFL fan. Been forever. The NFL is use to this shit. Every other week it's some crazy shit!! Domestic violence everywhere. Owners are fucking scumbags. Ray Lewis and Big Ben get off back in the day. Just another week in the league. Lol. Can't wait till 1 to watch it😳😉

[Maynard]

This is known because he was rich and famous, but it is happening all over the country at increasing and alarming rates. I'd be interested to know how many corvettes end up smashed and killing somebody in one of these stupid 'look how fast it will go' moments. This summer I know of 2 in our area, just from hearing accounts from first responders who got the pleasure of dealing with the aftermath. 500+hp and 100+mph speeds just a foot tap away are more than many can handle.

[mjr24]

Originally Posted by shoei

What do you mean - "it's irrelevant who his attorney is." I can't even process how that even comes out of somebodies mouth. This isn't just US specific but equally if not more heinous shit has happened where people have walked BY having that kind of attorney.

I'm not advocating for Ruggs to walk. Im merely stating how the world works. This isn't what I want, just how I know the legal system to work. I hope they throw the book at him - Las Vegas and Nevada have a huge decision to make. One of the largest hurdles they had to face when winning a NFL team was? How would young athletes handle the city. This isn't going to help their cause to land a NBA team. They either have to make him an example or set the tone for future athletes.

Bud, I have a law degree. You don't even spell "somebodies" right. You don't really have any idea what you are talking about. No, I really don't think you know how the world works.

This also literally has nothing to do with their chances of getting an NBA team….so, yeah, you don't know anything about that, either.

[shoei]

Originally Posted by mjr24

Bud, I have a law degree. You don't even spell "somebodies" right. You don't really have any idea what you are talking about. No, I really don't think you know how the world works.

This also literally has nothing to do with their chances of getting an NBA team….so, yeah, you don't know anything about that, either.

1. I ain't your bud.
2. As an attorney for you to say "has no bearing on who his attorney is" tells me all I need to know about what kind of attorney you are.
3. Nobody likes a grammar nazi. It's a fucking forum, didn't realize we were being scrutinized for grammatical errors. But if we were, then someone who's touting his superior education would know it's "but you can't even spell somebodies right" as opposed to "you don't even spell somebodies right."

Again, as an attorney, stating it holds no merit on who one's attorney is, well, that's fucking terrifying.

"I'm an attorney." Lol. Great. Lemme guess, you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express as well?

[upstatedoc]

Can't we all just get along

[DenverSteve]

Because of the information available to the public already, and the notoriety of this case, he will likely not get any breaks. He will likely plead guilty to avoid the maximum sentence and plea to between 12 & 20 years. He will likely serve half of his max range. As someone who spent over a decade in court, the attorney makes a major difference in the outcome of the trial/plea.

However, my guess, worth nothing of course, is sentence of 20 years with a release in 10. He, of course, is finished in the public eye and will pay a settlement of around 30 million.

[DenverSteve]

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

how do they know he was doing 156. also how do you hit 156 on a road. ive been following this for quite some time. i would never drive anywhere if I had a lot of money

It's simple accident science. Accident reconstruction takes road-surface skid analysis, debris deposits from point of impact, a few calculations and voila - speed at impact. That combined with any video evidence, vehicle telemetry and cell phone data and they'll triangulate his exact speed leading up to and at point of impact. No voodoo involved.

[mjr24]

Originally Posted by shoei

1. I ain't your bud.
2. As an attorney for you to say "has no bearing on who his attorney is" tells me all I need to know about what kind of attorney you are.
3. Nobody likes a grammar nazi. It's a fucking forum, didn't realize we were being scrutinized for grammatical errors. But if we were, then someone who's touting his superior education would know it's "but you can't even spell somebodies right" as opposed to "you don't even spell somebodies right."

Again, as an attorney, stating it holds no merit on who one's attorney is, well, that's fucking terrifying.

"I'm an attorney." Lol. Great. Lemme guess, you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express as well?

I don't even bother trying to educate dipshits like you. It's pointless.

[shoei]

Originally Posted by mjr24

I don't even bother trying to educate dipshits like you. It's pointless.

Says the "attorney" who says having a good attorney has zero relevance in a criminal proceeding (LOL) and then gives grammatical tips - WHILE making a mistake themselves.

And I'M the dipshit?

[mjr24]

Originally Posted by shoei

1. I ain't your bud.
2. As an attorney for you to say "has no bearing on who his attorney is" tells me all I need to know about what kind of attorney you are.
3. Nobody likes a grammar nazi. It's a fucking forum, didn't realize we were being scrutinized for grammatical errors. But if we were, then someone who's touting his superior education would know it's "but you can't even spell somebodies right" as opposed to "you don't even spell somebodies right."

Again, as an attorney, stating it holds no merit on who one's attorney is, well, that's fucking terrifying.

"I'm an attorney." Lol. Great. Lemme guess, you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express as well?

I don't even bother trying to educate dipshits like you. It's pointless. Your posts make it look like you are, what, 19 years old? I know you aren't (so that wasn't a compliment).

Also, word of advice.....spelling simple words wrong make you look like a fucking moron to people who don't you......especially when you are trying to speak about things way out of your realm.

Enlighten me, though. I would love to know in your professional dipshit (oops, I mean legal) opinion how Ruggs is going to "get off" when there is video of him speeding literally 1-2 seconds before impact, a black box pulled from his car already indicates his speed before and at impact, and we literally have video of him at the scene with witnesses. He isn't "getting off" here. He is going to prison.

There is a big difference between defending Paris Hilton for coke possession or a normal DUI versus someone who killed an innocent person by driving drunk and at a speed we already know was obscenely reckless (even if sober). This would be called "you are fucked". The best attorneys in the world can't do anything in these situations.

Your statement about the team still having to pay salary if he is cut is also wrong. They can also recoup some of his signing bonus already paid to him. Just so you are educated on that, too. Most professional athletes have provisions in their contracts where it can be voided if they get hurt doing a non-football (in Ruggs case) activity.....and driving drunk at 156MPH before killing someone probably won't be considered a football activity.

[shoei]

Originally Posted by mjr24

I don't even bother trying to educate dipshits like you. It's pointless. Your posts make it look like you are, what, 19 years old (and I know you aren't....so that's not a compliment)?

Here's the thing. You decided to make it personal for whatever reason, then play the victim card like you didn't do shit. Also, only one of us stooped to name calling so you can also scratch that off your victim card as well.

Congrats, Counsellor. Hopefully you don't project in the courtroom as well.

[mjr24]

Originally Posted by shoei

Here's the thing. You decided to make it personal for whatever reason, then play the victim card like you didn't do shit. Also, only one of us stooped to name calling so you can also scratch that off your victim card as well.

Congrats, Counsellor. Hopefully you don't project in the courtroom as well.

Simply calling you out for speaking out of your ass. Sorry if you take that personally (well, you should). Have a good night "brah" .

[mjr24]

Originally Posted by shoei

Says the "attorney" who says having a good attorney has zero relevance in a criminal proceeding (LOL) and then gives grammatical tips - WHILE making a mistake themselves.

And I'M the dipshit?

No, you said he is going to "get off" because of his attorney as in be found innocent. I said in these particular circumstances there is no way he is "getting off" even if John Marshall himself rises from the grave to represent him. Anything beyond that and you are just putting words in my mouth.