[TheWatchGuy]

Originally Posted by rebekahb

This is a little different of a question. If you get a massage or a hair cut and the person who does your service owns the place, what percent do you tip?

The lady who does my hair owns her own salon. She's been my friend for years so I asked her. She told me that most people tip too much since she is the owner. If just feels weird to leave less than 20%.

My haircut is $15 at great clips and I always leave a $5 tip. I try to think of it as, "would i want to do this job?" and if the answer is no, i leave a good tip.

I also tip my mechanics, tire guys, delivery guys, etc. When i need a quick pressure check on my tires, i throw the guy at the tire shop $5. Is it necessary? No. But when I was younger working those jobs, getting a tip, even if it was just a couple bucks, made my day.

[Tommy-G]

Originally Posted by TheWatchGuy

I also tip my mechanics, tire guys, delivery guys, etc. When i need a quick pressure check on my tires, i throw the guy at the tire shop $5. Is it necessary? No. But when I was younger working those jobs, getting a tip, even if it was just a couple bucks, made my day.

My guys are re-welding cars together keeping families safe when they work and if someone offers a tip they do cartwheels.

If a customer offers me (MGR) a tip, I ask if they would give it to the technician instead or Ill make a point to hand it to them.

[nazali]

Never ever thought of that !

But I go on google/tripadvisor/youtube and give them good comments and referrals, anyone I know who needs work, I send them there way, I think a referral works better than a tip or a great google review.

Plus going back and spending my money with them, helps them a lot, no advertising right, repeat business is always good with these guy's, IMHO

(I'm talking about small independant mom&pop shops)

Originally Posted by TheWatchGuy

I also tip my mechanics, tire guys, delivery guys, etc. When i need a quick pressure check on my tires, i throw the guy at the tire shop $5. Is it necessary? No. But when I was younger working those jobs, getting a tip, even if it was just a couple bucks, made my day.

[Joekerr]

I'm utterly gobsmacked that Alfisti hasn't made his way into this thread yet.

I mean, I know what he's going to say in terms of his general sentiment on the matter, but I don't know what flowery language he's going to sandwich the sentiment in between, and his creative use of the English language is what I enjoy most.

[TheWatchGuy]

Originally Posted by nazali

Never ever thought of that !

But I go on google/tripadvisor/youtube and give them good comments and referrals, anyone I know who needs work, I send them there way, I think a referral works better than a tip or a great google review.

Plus going back and spending my money with them, helps them a lot, no advertising right, repeat business is always good with these guy's, IMHO

(I'm talking about small independant mom&pop shops)

thats for the business owner sure, but i never got happy cause some rando gave me a compliment online.

[nazali]

if the business does good, usually so do the employees, especially if you mention by name, nowadays, people live and die by google reviews, saying that "john was a fantastic tech do not use anyone else" is more likely to get John a rise or stay on, of course not saying not to slip john a fiver !

Originally Posted by TheWatchGuy

thats for the business owner sure, but i never got happy cause some rando gave me a compliment online.

[premier3is]

Fuck tips. Just get rid of the whole bullshit system.

[premier3is]

Originally Posted by dreamingat30fps

Get rid of the whole system it's stupid. Pay them a normal wage, if they suck fire them and get someone who doesn't suck. Why is this so difficult? It's the way EVERY other job works.

Tips is one of the dumbest things in this country. Is it supposed to be our fuckin problem that the employees aren't getting paid a normal wage to do their job and relying on the guests to make up for the pay? Mind blowing.

I've been to places where they've added 20-25% gratuity to like a 100 dollar meal automatically and then the server expects a tip on top of that? Fuck off.

[nazali]

Originally Posted by premier3is

Is it supposed to be our fuckin problem that the employees aren't getting paid a normal wage to do their job and relying on the guests to make up for the pay?

^^^ this exactly

[nazali]

If your going to automatically charge me a gratuity, why should I put more on ?

One year at our regular Porsche Christmas dinners, the place , which was fantastic btw,
we had like 5 tables of I don't know 6 or 7 each

They made some SERIOUS money of us, they put a gratuity.

I did ask the boy's to pony up as the service was exceptional, and we also had a bit of a christmas awards ceremony as well, some of the guys, said exactly "errmm isnt that already been included"

Funny enough the guys driving the 924's and the 944's/68's all ponyied up without any complaint, all the newer 911's, the guy's with 2 houses, 3 cars basically new money were the ones biyuatching, the same guy's put change into a collection for tsunami victums in 2004, everyone else, put notes and even cheques, I said I would match all donations. somone even put 2 1penny's God how cheap, you drive a £40k porsche (in 2004) and got heart for 2pence

[nazali]

I am really split on this, you charge me, you charge me, you put a gratuity you put it on, but why should I top that up, very sad that some of these girls have only this work and rely on it... ALA that Resevoir Dogs scene (already posted)

very sad

[premier3is]

Originally Posted by hubbahubba

You know when you go to a restaurant, and the server is on point? They can explain dishes, provide rec's, maybe even brighten your day with a treat of some sort? If you get rid of tipping, you get rid of that.

Ever consider that it is their job to do that?

[dreamingat30fps]

Originally Posted by TheWatchGuy

Do you get a bonus? That is your tip. Its just coming to you through your employer paid for by your customers, instead of directly from your customers.

I'm not the best example as I'm self employed so no fucking way my douche boss is giving me a bonus.

However when I did work at other places some places gave bonuses some did not. The ones that did, it was never a large % of my salary. It wasn't that if I did NOT get a bonus I would basically be living in poverty making way below minimum wage. I did not accept the job because I knew I would be getting a bonus. Not an apples to apples comparison at all.

Pay the servers a normal salary and give the exceptional ones a bonus then.

[dreamingat30fps]

Originally Posted by hubbahubba

If the tip is included, sure, why would you pay extra? Unless they went above and beyond, I wouldn't either.

You get paid well enough to not call your customers an idiot because the price of that 5 star service is obviously built in to your salary. Your company has absorbed that and passed it on to your idiot customers. In a restaurant, that's not how it is set up, and if you wanted to do that, as I said above, get ready for an instant 20% mark up. Even so, many servers who are the best of the best regularly make above 20%, and the resulting pay cut would drive them to another profession.

Maybe you don't frequent the same places enough to know what consistant and good tipping do for your level of service, but I don't want to give that up. And it would 100% go away if tipping went away.

Did I say I did not tip? No. I tip 20% unless it's really bad.

That being said I do not agree with the system in general. However that is the system we have and I know they make little money without tips. Just because I don't like the system it doesn't mean I don't follow the "rules".

[3.0L]

During normal times, I typically tip a good waitress or waiter 20% if the service is good and the food halfway decent.

Since we've been released from jail and can dine-in again and considering the severe hardships on restaurant staff during the past year or so, I've been tipping $20.00 to $25.00 (lunch for two). That averages about 55 to 65%.

They need it.

[hubbahubba]

Originally Posted by premier3is

Ever consider that it is their job to do that?

Yes! Ever consider that those that excel do so because they get good tips?

[hubbahubba]

Originally Posted by dreamingat30fps

Did I say I did not tip? No. I tip 20% unless it's really bad.

That being said I do not agree with the system in general. However that is the system we have and I know they make little money without tips. Just because I don't like the system it doesn't mean I follow the "rules".

Sooo... you're just complaining about things you can't control?

[Our03z4]

My wife and I eat lunch at the same places every Thursday and Friday. Our bill at one is usually around $14 and I tip $6. They always have our drinks ready as soon as we sit down and know what we want to eat. I pay the good tip for quick service, faster I'm out the door the faster I'm making money again.

$50 meal I'll normally tip $20. If service is slow ( the server) I'll tip 20% but never under unless something truly horrible happens. I like seeing people light up and making their days better.

I've also seen servers get stiffed on tips and will usually make up for that table as well. Bunch of misers in here.

[dreamingat30fps]

Originally Posted by hubbahubba

Sooo... you're just complaining about things you can't control?

Yup. Same way I hate 55 mph speed limits on the highways, parking tickets for backing into a spot or when people assume shit about you.

[Bunnny]

Adding an auto-tip is in bad taste, and is a move on behalf of the management.
The staff dont straight up ask for tips, no one does. I'd expect it on the bill for large dinner parties, because it's a common thing now for that, and having worked as a waitress and gotten next to nothing from big tables is total BS. But not at a hotel unless I was hosting an event.

[fiveohwblow]

Originally Posted by dreamingat30fps

Yup. Same way I hate 55 mph speed limits on the highways, parking tickets for backing into a spot or when people assume shit about you.

Don’t you dare assume shit about me for parking backwards!

[hubbahubba]

Originally Posted by dreamingat30fps

Yup. Same way I hate 55 mph speed limits on the highways, parking tickets for backing into a spot or when people assume shit about you.

OK. Whatever that means?