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      11-03-2008, 06:52 PM   #45
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3549 with a base model. wow, i dont want to know the weight with all the options added. upgraded brakes, added sway bars, navigation, power seats, HID, LSD, sunroof, bigger wheels, fog lamps...how much could all that stuff weigh?
probably still less than G37
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this car looks very nice but too bad its a korean car
In terms of reliability Hyundai is now of of the most reliable car companies around. Hyundai as come up so much that Toyota considers it its biggest threat.
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It's a good looking car but only time will tell as to how effective Hyundia will be in rising to the next automotive level.
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probably still less than G37
haha. sad fact is that the g37 nowdays might actually be second in weight to the 335i. camaro can weigh up to two tons, this base model genesis is 67 lbs lighter with no equipment. but you realize thats how car companies make money. they either you sell you on the weight or charge you for the missing weight.
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Who ever said the G37 will blow it away ... the Gen Coupe has better hp/weight ratio so I bet it wont.

Brakes are huge and by Brembo so you cant go wrong with that. Only down side its its a bit porky with the 2.0 Turbo but Im guessing there will be plenty of aftermarket support for this new motor.
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Who ever said the G37 will blow it away ... the Gen Coupe has better hp/weight ratio so I bet it wont.

Brakes are huge and by Brembo so you cant go wrong with that. Only down side its its a bit porky with the 2.0 Turbo but Im guessing there will be plenty of aftermarket support for this new motor.
you might want to check your math again.
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3549 with a base model. wow, i dont want to know the weight with all the options added. upgraded brakes, added sway bars, navigation, power seats, HID, LSD, sunroof, bigger wheels, fog lamps...how much could all that stuff weigh?
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More importantly, the track model gets 19-inch wheels wrapped in the same rubber as the V6 model, HID headlamps, LSD, 25mm (front) and 22 mm (rear) sway bars, 13.4-inch (front) and 13.0-inch (rear) Brembos, along with stiffer springs and shocks. The R-Spec model gets all the good bits from the Track variant, but doesn't include all the heavy niceties inside.
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you might want to check your math again.
Vehicle Length Curb Weight (lbs.) Horsepower Power-to-weight ratio
Genesis Coupe 3.8 182.3 3402 310 (est.) 11.0
BMW 335i 181.1 3571 300 11.9
Infiniti G37 183.1 3616 330 11.0
Camaro LS 190.4 3780 300 (est.) 12.6
Challenger 197.7 3819 250 15.3

ok its the same my bad

But the new G37 motor sux ... no aftermarket for it really compared to the old G35 ... any car thats factory turbocharged will usually have more tuneability
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oh dear....so do i have to point out the R-spec bulimia version is only for the 2.0T? the V6 is going to be heavier because that 3549lbs claim was without all the "track" equipment. on page 2 gencoupe.net even tells you the power-to-weight. im actually surprised the g37 has the best one.
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I bet the only way it'll be near $20k is by going with one of the lower end models of it.
I wasn't even considering the V6 as I would only be interested in the 4 banger. I think that Hyundai's initial plan was to keep the car under 20k with the base model, but I'm not sure if that's possible with a car this size.
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Official Tech specs

There are seven basic Genesis Coupe configurations:
- 2.0T
- 2.0T Premium
- 2.0T Track (6-speed manual transmission only)
- 2.0T R-Spec (late availability, 6-speed manual transmission only)
- 3.8
- 3.8 Grand Touring
- 3.8 Track

GENESIS COUPE 2.0T: A MORE EFFICIENT TAKE ON THE REAR-WHEEL DRIVE SPORT COUPE
Standard equipment includes:
- 2.0-liter, low-pressure, turbocharged, intercooled 4-cylinder engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering an estimated 210-hp (regular), estimated 220 hp (premium), an estimated 223 ft-lbs of torque (at just 2,000 rpm), an estimated 30 mpg EPA highway rating and an estimated top speed of 137 mph
- M6VR1 6-speed manual transmission (Optional: A5SR1 5-speed electronic automatic transmission with lockup torque converter and steering wheel-mounted paddle-shift Shiftronic controls)
- 18-inch Euroflange alloy wheels with staggered Bridgestone Potenza RE92A tires (P225/45VR18 front, P245/45VR18 rear)
- Electronic Stability Control with ABS, Electronic Brake-Force Distribution and Brake Assist
- 12.6-inch ventilated front rotors with 60mm single piston floating caliper
- 12.4-inch solid rear rotors with 43mm single piston floating caliper
- Sport-tuned MacPherson strut dual-link front suspension and five-link rear independent suspension, 24mm front stabilizer bar, 19mm rear stabilizer bar
- Strut brace
- Quick-ratio hydraulic steering (2.7 turns lock-to-lock)
- Tire Pressure Monitoring System
- Front, side, side air curtain air bags
- Active front head restraints
- Driver’s lumbar support
- Black-out front lower fascia
- Trip computer
- Air conditioning
- Satin silver and chrome interior accents
- Keyless entry system
- Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob
- Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors
- AM/FM/XM/CD audio system with six speakers
- USB/iPod/Aux jack connectivity
- Steering wheel audio controls
- Cruise control
- Projector beam headlamps with auto light control
- Integrated Bluetooth including steering wheel controls
- Temporary spare with steel wheel (T135/90D17)

The 2.0T Premium model adds or substitutes:
- Power driver seat
- 360-watt AM/FM/XM/CD-changer Infinity premium audio system with 10 speakers including DVC subwoofer, eight-channel external amplifier, and diversity antenna
- Smart Key with push-button start
- Electrochromic mirror with HomeLink and compass
- Sunroof
- Navigation system (mid-year availability)


The factory-tuned 2.0T Track model builds from the 2.0T Premium, adding/substituting:
- 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
- Unique Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
- Unique track-tuned suspension, higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, strut brace
- Torsen-type limited-slip differential
- Black leather bolster seats with high-friction red cloth insert
- Aluminum pedals
- Aero windshield wipers
- Rear spoiler
- Xenon HID headlamps
- Fog lamps
- Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
- Navigation system (mid-year availability)
- Note: Automatic transmission not available with 2.0T Track

Later in the model year, a tuner-focused performance model, R-Spec, will arrive at Hyundai dealerships. Genesis Coupe R-Spec is meant to be the ultimate upgradeable, affordable, turbocharged rear-wheel drive performance platform. R-Spec equipment includes:
- 2.0-liter low-pressure turbocharged intercooled four-cylinder engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering an estimated 210-hp (regular), estimated 220-hp (premium), an estimated 30 mpg EPA highway rating and an estimated top speed of 137 mph
- 6-speed manual transmission
- Electronic Stability Control with ABS, Electronic Brake-Force Distribution and Brake Assist
- 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
- Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
- Track model suspension tuning (higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, strut brace)
- Torsen-type limited-slip differential
- Quick-ratio hydraulic steering (2.7 turns lock-to-lock)
- Tire Pressure Monitoring System
- Front, side, side air curtain air bags
- Active front head restraints
- Driver’s lumbar support
- Air conditioning
- Keyless entry system
- Leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift knob
- Power windows (one-touch up and down), door locks and mirrors
- AM/FM/XM/CD audio system with six speakers
- USB/iPod/Aux jack connectivity
- Projector beam headlamps
- Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
- Note: Automatic transmission not available with R-Spec

GENESIS 3.8: 310 HORSEPOWER AND STANDARD LEATHER INTERIOR – A NEW BENCHMARK FOR PERFORMANCE AND REFINEMENT IN ITS CLASS
Standard equipment includes 2.0T equipment, and adds or substitutes:
- 3.8L DOHC V6 engine with dual continuously variable valve timing delivering an estimated 306-hp (regular), 310-hp (premium), and a top speed of 149 mph
- M6VR2 6-speed manual transmission (Optional: ZF 6HP19 6-speed electronic automatic with lockup torque converter and steering wheel-mounted paddle-shift Shiftronic controls)
- Black leather seats
- Fully automatic temperature control
- Premium door sill plates
- Chrome front fascia accents

In addition to 3.8 equipment, the 3.8 Grand Touring adds or substitutes:
- Unique brown leather seat interior environment
- Power driver seat
- Heated driver and passenger seat
- 360-watt AM/FM/XM/CD-changer Infinity premium audio system with 10 speakers including DVC subwoofer, eight-channel external amplifier, and diversity antenna
- Smart Key with push-button start
- Xenon HID headlamps
- Electrochromic mirror with HomeLink and compass
- Heated mirrors with outside turn signal indicators
- Backup warning system
- Sunroof
- Navigation system (mid-year availability)

The factory-tuned 3.8 Track model deletes backup warning system and chrome front fascia accents from the Grand Touring model, and adds or substitutes:
- Black leather seats
- 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
- Unique Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
- Unique track-tuned suspension, higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, strut brace
- Torsen-type limited-slip differential
- Aluminum pedals
- Aero windshield wipers
- Rear spoiler
- Black-out front lower fascia
- Xenon HID headlamps
- Fog lamps
- Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)

Genesis Coupe will be available in nine exterior colors:
- Karussell White
- Bathurst Black
- Silverstone
- Nordschleife Gray
- Acqua Minerale Blue
- Tsukuba Red
- Mirabeau Blue
- Lime Rock Green
- Interlagos Yellow

Genesis Coupe features four different interior themes:
- Black environment, premium black cloth seats (2.0T, 2.0T Premium, R-Spec)
- Black environment, black leather-bolstered seats with high-friction red cloth insert (2.0T Track)
- Black environment, black leather seats (3.8, 3.8 Track)
- Black environment, saddle brown leather seats (3.8 Grand Touring)
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oh dear....so do i have to point out the R-spec bulimia version is only for the 2.0T? the V6 is going to be heavier because that 3549lbs claim was without all the "track" equipment. on page 2 gencoupe.net even tells you the power-to-weight. im actually surprised the g37 has the best one.
It was actually for the Track model not the R ... and there is a Track Model in the V6

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The factory-tuned 3.8 Track model deletes backup warning system and chrome front fascia accents from the Grand Touring model, and adds or substitutes:
• Black leather seats
• 19-inch Euroflange gunmetal finish alloy wheels with staggered high-performance summer-compound Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires (P225/40YR19 front, P245/40YR19 rear)
• Unique Brembo braking system with 13.4-inch ventilated front rotors, 42mm four-piston fixed front calipers (red), 13.0-inch ventilated rear rotors, 32mm+28mm four-piston fixed rear calipers (red)
• Unique track-tuned suspension, higher-rate coil springs, higher-control shock absorbers, 25mm front stabilizer bar, 22mm rear stabilizer bar, strut brace
• Torsen-type limited-slip differential
• Aluminum pedals
• Aero windshield wipers
• Rear spoiler
• Black-out front lower fascia
• Xenon HID headlamps
• Fog lamps
• Lightweight temporary spare with aluminum wheel (T135/80D18)
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Vehicle Length Curb Weight (lbs.) Horsepower Power-to-weight ratio
Genesis Coupe 3.8 182.3 3402 310 (est.) 11.0
BMW 335i 181.1 3571 300 11.9
Infiniti G37 183.1 3616 330 11.0
Camaro LS 190.4 3780 300 (est.) 12.6
Challenger 197.7 3819 250 15.3

ok its the same my bad

But the new G37 motor sux ... no aftermarket for it really compared to the old G35 ... any car thats factory turbocharged will usually have more tuneability
higher output, higher redline. i dont build motors but if i did thats the one i would want to build. yes, the 2.0T can be tuned because it has a turbo. but you cant tell me you would choose this over the many 300hp factory turbos out there...
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It was actually for the Track model not the R ... and there is a Track Model in the V6
haha yes indeed, but i was thinking too deep in that you were alluding to the R-spec which would have a lower weight than even a base 2.0T and that maybe...somehow, im not sure at this point, the power-to-weight would be better than the g37. nevermind, carry on!
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For those that didn't know, the 2.0T is from the joint development between Mitsu and Hyundai. It is a slightly different variant of the 4b11 found in the EVOX
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higher output, higher redline. i dont build motors but if i did thats the one i would want to build. yes, the 2.0T can be tuned because it has a turbo. but you cant tell you would choose this over the many 300hp factory turbos out there...
Well comparing this car to the Evo or STI no ... this car will never be a Evo or STI ... shit even the 335i isnt close in terms of performance as the Evo or STI. My old Evo ran circles around my 335i.

I would however pic the 2L Gen coupe over the G37 or a IS250 or Acura TL or other ... as for like 22K you have a good looking fatory turbocharged coupe that saves you over 10K in money. Yea you will be under power but 5K in upgrades and you'll most likely be having a higher output.
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haha yes indeed, but i was thinking too deep in that you were alluding to the R-spec which would have a lower weight than even a base 2.0T and that maybe...somehow, im not sure at this point, the power-to-weight would be better than the g37. nevermind, carry on!
Oh ok
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For those that didn't know, the 2.0T is from the joint development between Mitsu and Hyundai. It is a slightly different variant of the 4b11 found in the EVOX
Yea I heard that too ... it would be awesome if you could do a motor swap
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