[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by racerbruce

The 8th gear synchronizing issue on the reconnaissance lap did not "cause" VER to lose control of the RB racer, VER "caused" the loss of control of his racer.

Let us know how it works out when you run a red light and you inform the police that it wasn't your fault....it was the red light's fault.

Nope,go back to what I saying about driving a current F1 car, the things that drivers need to do and to what Horner said. Lesson over.

[racerbruce]

"The things that drivers need to do"....hmmmmmmmm

Rule #1 in competition: You must be in it to win it.

VER is 100% responsible for knowing, understanding and performing "the things that drivers need to do".

Just admit it....VER made an unforced error that caused the RB racer to crash on the reconnaissance lap....let us know if you are capable of admitting VER's unforced shunt.

[///M Power-Belgium]

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[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

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My friend as Shand said in The Long Good Friday..''There's going to be an eruption!''

[racerbruce]

It appears acknowledging an error is not likely.

[SenorFunkyPants]

Originally Posted by racerbruce

...VER made an unforced error that caused the RB racer to crash on the reconnaissance lap...

For 2021 Red Bull have a special disposition from the FIA for wet races...RB will be allowed to tow Verstappens car to the start line to make sure he gets there in one piece.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

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A couple on here need to go back to basics, reading Alice in Wonderland would be a good start for them

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

A couple on here need to go back to basics, reading Alice in Wonderland would be a good start for them

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Also..

[yco]

“If he could right himself with quarrelling, some of us would lie low.” W.S.

[M5Rick]

''Much Ado about nothing''
Knowledge is everything.

[EdM5]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

Who has it. This isn't about feelings, it's the Holy Grail in F1...especially when considered against your team mate. I'll Put it in 3 tiers:

Exceptional: SEN, MSC, HAM, VET, TRU, MON, STE, Clark.

Pretty damn good: LAU, MAS, BOT, PRO, VIL, ROS(N)

Decent: RUS, VER, HUN, ARN

Those are the ones that come most immediately to mind.

I'd love to hear everyone else's opinions.

Good list Sir! May I suggest to include Piquet and Berger in the 2nd tier? They were both faster than MAS and BOT for sure. Berger had plenty of raw speed and some big balls but was unlucky to be active in the greatest F1 era ever (Prost, Senna, Piquet, Mansell). Also, Mika should be included, probably 2nd tier as well. What do you think?

[MKSixer]

Originally Posted by EdM5

Good list Sir! May I suggest to include Piquet and Berger in the 2nd tier? They were both faster than MAS and BOT for sure. Berger had plenty of raw speed and some big balls but was unlucky to be active in the greatest F1 era ever (Prost, Senna, Piquet, Mansell). Also, Mika should be included, probably 2nd tier as well. What do you think?

Great additions and placements. I always refer to Piquet as, "the forgotten champion". He is a 3x WDC FFS!!!

Berger is a great addition!!