[six_timer]

Originally Posted by SonnyJack

Are you suggesting that NR was changing settings after turn 1 and selected the wrong setting going into turn 2?

Being in the wrong setting from the start (down 180 whp) would have made it impossible to keep pace going into turn 1.

Don't think it's that simple. It may be a setting that only limits top-end speed. But both drivers agree ROS was on the wrong setting. Knowing this, it now appears to be 100% Rosberg's fault. Not just for selecting the wrong setting, but when he saw that Hamilton was coming on so much faster, he should've realized something was wrong, rather than just drive HAM off the road.

[six_timer]

Full explanation
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/re...-crash-737281/

[WoohooSoCal]

Originally Posted by Blipit_

It was a racing incident just like Spa incident, but with the roles reversed. No one to blame, just move on.

[RSBro]

Not EVEN going to get into the Merc debacle, except at this point they should know better, and I think Britney is going to be gone next year. Just my thoughts.

Also, Max is awesome. I think he was/is ready for the swap from Kvyat. I hate RBR, but seeing them outpace Ferrari yesterday was just spectacular.

[SonnyJack]

Originally Posted by five_timer

Full explanation
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/re...-crash-737281/

Very curious. Strat 3 is important because it's the agreed upon launch strategy, and Strat 6 is important because it's for use when in the pits. Why is Strat 12 marked as important?

Is Strat 12 the setting for the formation lap?

[six_timer]

Originally Posted by SonnyJack

Very curious. Strat 3 is important because it's the agreed upon launch strategy, and Strat 6 is important because it's for use when in the pits. Why is Strat 12 marked as important?

Is Strat 12 the setting for the formation lap?

According to the article, it's for energy conservation, which would be important later in a race (if you're ahead).

[SonnyJack]

Originally Posted by five_timer

According to the article, it's for energy conservation, which would be important later in a race (if you're ahead).

Exactly. So how does an experienced driver end up in Strat 12 to start a race when he shouldn't have been anywhere near Strat 12 to begin with? Strat 3 is nowhere near Strat 12.

If Strat 12 was ever needed, I'm guessing you're in cruise control with a big lead and dialing that setting should be low stress. It's nowhere near 3 or 6, so how exactly does it get erroneously selected?

[AW335TT]

Originally Posted by SonnyJack

Exactly. So how does an experienced driver end up in Strat 12 to start a race when he shouldn't have been anywhere near Strat 12 to begin with? Strat 3 is nowhere near Strat 12.

If Strat 12 was ever needed, I'm guessing you're in cruise control with a big lead and dialing that setting should be low stress. It's nowhere near 3 or 6, so how exactly does it get erroneously selected?

Strat 12 is for the formation lap.

[Terry989]

One of my favorite tracks and a great race to watch this year. Amazing that 5 races into the season and we have Raikkonen ahead of Hamilton in the driver standings!

[Jenya B]

Originally Posted by SonnyJack

Are you suggesting that NR was changing settings after turn 1 and selected the wrong setting going into turn 2?

Being in the wrong setting from the start (down 180 whp) would have made it impossible to keep pace going into turn 1.

He starts on wrong settings in the beginning .

[SonnyJack]

Originally Posted by AW335TT

Strat 12 is for the formation lap.

Thanks. That's what I asked earlier. Just couldn't make sense of where Strat 12 came from.

[six_timer]

Video analysis
http://www.formula1.com/content/fom-...n_4_clash.html

[DaBean]

Originally Posted by SonnyJack

At first I was blaming LH for once again being impatient. Then, after watching it over and over it really seemed as though NR deliberately drove him off the track. He certainly did not leave a car width. In fact NR's wheels were almost on the grass. WAY off the racing line. A dick move for sure.

Initial reactions tell the story. LH was pissed, throwing his steering wheel, and NR kinda gives an "aww shucks" swing with his arm.

That debrief had to be pure rage!

Will be very curious to see how the team handles it. They keep refusing to name a #1 driver so no reason to believe it won't happen again.

It's a real shame. At first I also tended to blame LH, but after seeing it a few times and seeing a post-race analysis, I further blame NR. Yes, he didn't expect LH to be there so quickly, but knowing he made a mistake, he SHOULD have expected LH there. He gave him no room, and thus, AGAIN, proved that he is unable to do wheel to wheel racing.

[Banana Hammock]

The two Mercedes need to take each other out more often. That made for a great race.

One hell of a drive by Max but bummed to see Haas get bumped out of points.

[DaBean]

Originally Posted by duck fat

The two Mercedes need to take each other out more often. That made for a great race.

One hell of a drive by Max but bummed to see Haas get bumped out of points.

True, though we'd probably have had the exact same race, but for 3rd on the podium in lieu of 1st...

[DieGrüneHölle]

Originally Posted by five_timer

Video analysis
http://www.formula1.com/content/fom-...n_4_clash.html

Originally Posted by StatenEye

Agreed. How can one say, "This is called racing" is beyond my concept of logic. Making a mistake of not managing engine programs on the wheel with out radio instruction (a newly instituted rule to increase the responsibility of the pilot) and then making an aggressive late block after showing a passing lane to another driver is clearly careless. LH had the speed and room to pass, once his wing passed the rear of Nico he was in the right and performing a legal pass. Nico was clearly in the wrong and the only reason this was deemed a racing incident is bc they are teammates and Mercedes coached them through the review with the steward to take a 50/50 blame of the incident. Rosberg made the mistake, Rosberg compensated with an aggressive and careless move = Rosberg was at fault no room for interpretation.

Not going to lie, the video analysis did sway me a little from thinking it was just a racing incident.

[WoohooSoCal]

Hamilton's fault, clearly.

[DieGrüneHölle]

And the Rosberg to Ferrari rumors begin...

[six_timer]

Originally Posted by WoohooSoCal

Hamilton's fault, clearly.

Assuming you're not kidding, how so?

[Ramos]

What a sore loser Rosberg is ... even after winning 7 in a row, he can't concede a pass from Lewis after making a mistake and drives him off the road instead !!

What happened to the "No double move" rule and the "One car width from the edge of the track" rule?? How the hell is this not 100% Rosberg's fault and how the hell did he get away without getting a 10 grid penalty for Monaco??

This is real BS. The sport does not want a 3 time repeat champion, that's all there is to it.

[solstice]

Originally Posted by StatenEye

Things are really looking up for RB; The chassis is already the best on the grid and now another ~30hp in Canada? This could be really really good. Things will begin to get mighty interesting, especially if we have a Merc DNF in Monaco, which is very possible. Also remember; Riccardo was absolutely flying last year in MC, he posted the fastest lap. This engine change could make for some good races going fwd. Imagine if RB let him cover Kimi in Spain, then a win in Monaco before heading into Canada with an upgraded power plant? I guess I just wrote a movie script ha so many what ifs - one can only hope.

Yes RBR is very interesting now, I just hope the engine remain a notch below the Benz to make it an even fight with different advantages. We don't want to swap one unbeatable car for another, at least I don't.

Monaco! Let's see what Verstappen will be up to this time.

[Robin_NL]

Originally Posted by solstice

Yes RBR is very interesting now, I just hope the engine remain a notch below the Benz to make it an even fight with different advantages. We don't want to swap one unbeatable car for another, at least I don't.

Monaco! Let's see what Verstappen will be up to this time.

Grosjean was just in the way. Leave Max alone, he knows what he's doing.

On a serious note: GO MAX!!!!!!1111!!!!!

Cheers
Robin