[jtodd_fl]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

You know she's aware of it too. I mean, look at how happy she is.

What a beautiful pair of baby blues.

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

Yeah it's brutal but if you're both professionals ... bad luck.

What bothers me more over here is the mid-income welfare that means you almost are better off just working part time or whatever because at above 150K household here they just eat you alive on new taxes (hard left federal and provincial governments recently voted in) and the handouts are crazy.

And i say that leaning far further left than most of you here.

Yeah, Mr. Sunshine and Lollipops has made lots of promises on the back of the people who actually are contributing to society.

But hey, what's new, the Romans also catered to the great unwashed so to speak in order to garner votes. The lie-berals are just dusting off an old but used ploy.

[Mr Tonka]

Originally Posted by infamousdiz

It makes me feel better to rant and bitch, share your story on the opportunity cost of having children and the wasting of money that could be used to get a new M car!
(I love My kids very much and understand its just life but WTF. ) How much do you guys pay a babysitter. To go out for dinner its 100 before you get out the door. (15 an hours for 2 and i buy them pizza/dinner) have a few drinks you are at 300 dollars for a night out.

I think op is just pissed at the principal of it all, especially with regards to daycare costs. Just looking to bros for some vent time.

OP, we had dinner with one of the wife's clients. He was telling us about this date night he had with his wife. (Calm down jtodd_fl not going into those details) He and the wife stayed the night at a hotel and hired a sitter to stay home with the kids. Also gave the kids (2 of them) each a $150 limit to spend on a credit card when the sitter took them to the mall. He said that before their date started he was already out $1,000 for the sitter and "spending money" because the kids never stay within their limit. Two girls, obviously have him wrapped around their fingers.

[upstatedoc]

My wife could be making 6 figures and we would have a nanny but she decided that she was going to be the stay at home mom like her mom was and I support it.(read: naturally aspirated BMW) She does work on the weekends because, after all, she has to earn her keep somehow.

[EL Jeffe 5]

I feel your pain Brother I have three kids, it can get expensive also lazy babysitters its F@#$
irritating.

[Nkc]

Lol op sees no value in it. Why don't you try to stay at home with your kids for a month and see if they're worth $24k a year.

You wanna cheap out? Find relatives (grandparents are best) that are willing to do it for free.

[ASBSECU E93]

infamousdiz - In all seriousness....If/when you decide to sell the X5M, PM me. I should get the Tom Brady fan club discount too...fuq'n Pats haters

On the kids side - don't even sweat it. It's not like you stop paying for them after they are out of the house....

Private school anyone...? $$$

First Car $$$....then your insurance goes sky high...$$$ with two M's in the fold (See note where I'll buy the X5M at a steep discount )

College expense $$$.....and GRAD school?!?!

Then - they'll move home after college due to a soft job market, and get back on the payroll, only with far more expensive tastes

Wedding $$$....

The list continues......

[atxgt3]

It's easy enough to say just stay home with the kids, but like others mentioned there's socialization issues that come with that. My kids have been around so many other kids and adults that they are totally comfortable in any situation now, and know how to play and share.

Then there's the impact of being out of the workforce for an extended period of time, also something to consider. And the health of the marriage if one spouse doesn't have adult interactions and becomes bored/needy. Been there, done that. After my divorce I decided I would never again be with someone who wasn't in the workforce. Of course it works in some cases, but I don't want to take that chance again.

[ASBSECU E93]

Mr Tonka - I'll post up my Donkey selfie with Waffles tonight

I'm sure your wife's ass is MUCH better than my ass however

[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by DC-T

And I was trying to Ban Ki-moon that situation. You worded it well mate! Now got get that F10 M5

You Korean? Lol

[leopard print]

Originally Posted by M3 Number 86

You Korean? Lol

I'm not. I had to google what he meant by that. Haha.

[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by leopard print

I'm not. I had to google what he meant by that. Haha.

Ballers mistresses and illegitimate children. Something the peasant class don't understand as being the norm in everyday life LOL

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by Mr Tonka

DINK club!

We didn't make a decision of sorts. It was that neither one of us has that inner voice calling us to procreate. The desire just isn't there.

Speaking of donkeys.... Wife sent me this ass-selfie last week.

Originally Posted by jtodd_fl

She's got a great ass, if you don't mind me saying.

(Sorry for threadjacking.)

My ass....literally

[bbbbmw]

You think you have it bad? The Obama Administration is budgeting $17,613/each for the illegal children flooding our borders:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ob...rticle/2590078

Of course they are mostly 16-17 years old, so they can go on welfare in a couple of years. Keep both jobs - the government needs your taxes to pay for this - it's using borrowed money to fund it, and that can't last forever.

[leopard print]

Originally Posted by M3 Number 86

Ballers mistresses and illegitimate children. Something the peasant class don't understand as being the norm in everyday life LOL

It's a tough life being awesome. But someone has to do it.

[infamousdiz]

Originally Posted by EL Jeffe 5

I feel your pain Brother I have three kids, it can get expensive also lazy babysitters its F@#$
irritating.

they dont even do the dishes they and the kids use. Why do i have to clean up when i come home?? crazy world we live in

[infamousdiz]

Originally Posted by atxgt3

It's easy enough to say just stay home with the kids, but like others mentioned there's socialization issues that come with that. My kids have been around so many other kids and adults that they are totally comfortable in any situation now, and know how to play and share.

Then there's the impact of being out of the workforce for an extended period of time, also something to consider. And the health of the marriage if one spouse doesn't have adult interactions and becomes bored/needy. Been there, done that. After my divorce I decided I would never again be with someone who wasn't in the workforce. Of course it works in some cases, but I don't want to take that chance again.

It makes it easy I don't even have to watch the 4 year old when we go places , he plays, shares and listens to adults. better for others then for us

[infamousdiz]

Originally Posted by Nkc

Lol op sees no value in it. Why don't you try to stay at home with your kids for a month and see if they're worth $24k a year.

You wanna cheap out? Find relatives (grandparents are best) that are willing to do it for free.

We learned the hard way you can only count on your spouse and they people you pay, grand parents gets busy aka watch your own fuckin kids

[infamousdiz]

Originally Posted by TBN54

OP drives a X5M and a new M3 and is complaining about daycare cost.

Someone needs to get their priorities in check.

I want to spend it on me. I pay alot in taxes too but its child care that upsets me the most

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by infamousdiz

I want to spend it on me. I pay alot in taxes too but its child care that upsets me the most

Buy a couple rental properties....write every little expense off....you'll thank me later

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by infamousdiz

No, we do not hurt for money but I don't like paying for daycare, i get no value from it. She makes 6 figures. and that 2k could be a new X5M and then some

Man, start saving for college yet? We have, but not sure if we'll have $500k liquid in 13-18 years set aside just got college.

Been saving for our 5 year old and still in 5 figures....

[Mywifes335]

Originally Posted by EL Jeffe 5

I feel your pain Brother I have three kids, it can get expensive also lazy babysitters its F@#$
irritating.

Had a former model babysitter when my son was younger. Nothing happened, but did have the back of the mind wanderings....