[surewin]

It's been nice knowing you, BMW.

[Advevo]

Keep youre cars which you have now. I am building an e30 m3 gr a 300 HP 8800 rpm Screamer rally car right now.

For daily use hybrid is ok. But for fun no hybrid for me.

[VTECaddict]

See: McLaren P1. Plug in hybrid supercar.

PHEV doesn't have to mean everything will be a Prius.

PHEV technology in present day is used in super efficient cars and super high performance super cars as a proof of concept. Yes, it can be used in a way to save as much fuel as possible for your daily commute. Yes, it can also be used to enhance the performance of a car (instant torque of an electric motor is no match for any combustion engine).

As the technology matures over the next decade, it's not farfetched to expect to see PHEV technology being used in all types of vehicles across the board, be they gas saving commuter cars, super cars or anything in between.

IMO, PHEV technology is really the best answer to most American driving habits. You can run all electric on your short daily commute or your daily errands without burning any gas, but you can still take a road trip without having to worry about finding a charging station like with a pure EV. Now they just need some sporty/performance oriented cars with the technology and I'd be more inclined to buy one.

[pmgreenwood]

Originally Posted by Mahzari

It's much more likely that BMW will introduce one plug-in hybrid model to each series (3, 4, 5, 6, 7, etc.), just as Porsche intends to do. I cannot see every car becoming a hybrid, even within the next decade.

In Europe they will not meet the forthcoming emission regukations unless the vast majority of cars they sell are hybrid

[Falafel Combo]

Horseshit. Who writes these articles? And why would BMW divulge it's 2025 strategy to a mediocre auto publication? Not even a single quote from any BMW executive anywhere to be found, in this fine piece of auto journalism. For christsake, Yahoo autos writes better stuff than this!

[EzequielR]

Originally Posted by Law

2025 huh, so in about a decade.

Although quite a stretch i wouldn't rule out these possibilities at this point.

About a decade ago all BMWs were N/A, rear wheel drive (or rear biased x-drive) with a multitude of oil-burning and fuel consuming engines to choose from. Eights gears? That's too many. Why buys a BMW to save gas anyways?
BMW M swore never to turn to forced induction or to produce AWD M-cars.
Let's stick a V10 into a family sedan. Hell, let's work on putting the last of our iron-block, high revving, barely emissions compliant I-6 into our smallest roadster/coupe.


Fast forward to today: the entire BMW lineup has turbochargers and/or electric motors in the case of BMW i. For the first time EVER, there's a front-wheel drive BMW 2-series Active Tourer. BMW M has put efficiency as a top priority as well. Displacements & cylinder counts reduced across the board and traditional engine layouts dropped. Use of lightweight construction and materials are more common. 7 gears, 8 gears, ECO-mode, auto-start stop.
All the things that would've looked silly a decade back are now the norm.
None of this would've sat well with anyone in 2005...ECO-mode in a BMW? Auto-start stop to save 1-2 MPG in an M3?

We've seen quite a transformation in the past 10 years or so.
Changes across the entire car industry that seemed almost unimaginable.
But regulations are only the get tighter. As much as i dislike the whole efficiency/eco trend, it is a fact of the present & future that we have to acknowledge.

+1

[StealYourFace]

I think its cool tech, and will help make transportation sustainable, but like the others I am selfish and like vroom vroom sounds to come from my car

The good news is that you can vote with your dollars and buy lots of M3s (with sticks please, I want a used one).

[X3paul]

This is mostly bs but I am SO glad I got a Z4M coup to join my e9 csi coup and this year a e46 csl is in the cards or a V10. Im done with new bmw's heavy esp turbo eng fwd's crap.

[SeBaa]

Originally Posted by Thumper333

Unless it has 500+ mile range, can recharge in less than 5 minutes, and recharge stations at every gas station.......guess I won't be in a 3 series after that.

These things are fun tech fads, but can never replace a real car. Sad.

Word! I agree with you 110%!

[cc3]

Will always be a niche offer. Technology too complicated, added weight, oil price tumbling. Little real world benefit. BMW always said their cars were the ultimate driving machine. Seem to be moving towards packing cars with technology which adds to weight and leaves the cars far from being the ultimate driving machine

[marcva]

Porsche 918, watered down hybrid?

[KGB_123_99]

380i will feature a 0.5L one cylinder engine???

[antzcrashing]

Originally Posted by Law

2025 huh, so in about a decade.

Although quite a stretch i wouldn't rule out these possibilities at this point.

About a decade ago all BMWs were N/A, rear wheel drive (or rear biased x-drive) with a multitude of oil-burning and fuel consuming engines to choose from. Eights gears? That's too many. Why buys a BMW to save gas anyways?
BMW M swore never to turn to forced induction or to produce AWD M-cars.
Let's stick a V10 into a family sedan. Hell, let's work on putting the last of our iron-block, high revving, barely emissions compliant I-6 into our smallest roadster/coupe.


Fast forward to today: the entire BMW lineup has turbochargers and/or electric motors in the case of BMW i. For the first time EVER, there's a front-wheel drive BMW 2-series Active Tourer. BMW M has put efficiency as a top priority as well. Displacements & cylinder counts reduced across the board and traditional engine layouts dropped. Use of lightweight construction and materials are more common. 7 gears, 8 gears, ECO-mode, auto-start stop.
All the things that would've looked silly a decade back are now the norm.
None of this would've sat well with anyone in 2005...ECO-mode in a BMW? Auto-start stop to save 1-2 MPG in an M3?

We've seen quite a transformation in the past 10 years or so.
Changes across the entire car industry that seemed almost unimaginable.
But regulations are only the get tighter. As much as i dislike the whole efficiency/eco trend, it is a fact of the present & future that we have to acknowledge.

Thats nice and all but in real world driving the 4 cylinder turbo bmw of 2015 gets worse MPGs than my inline 6 in my 2006 330i, real world not on paper. How do I know? Ive driven both engines and seen the gas tank empty faster in the 4cyl. The epa rating of these engines is BS, Favoring smaller turbo engines when in reality they offer worse fuel economy.

And with gasoline prices falling do we really need to be plugging in our cars to save money?

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Broken_Gearbox

Don't you put that evil on us! Don't you put that curse on us bmw!

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Hopefully dismal EV sales and cheap oil will save BMW (and us) from this fate.

[GJR]

No rage at the politicians, the cause of this hysteria which is altering everything we know, just to fit their ideals.

All this for something that remains inconveniently unproven- the hypothesis that humans are responsible for climate change.

Enjoy your new "BMWs," eco sheep. Flame away.

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

Hopefully every car can be front wheel drive by then too!

One platform to save $$$ as well...

[SCOTT26]

Inevitable.

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

Inevitable.

What about the 2er? No electric love for the 2 Series??

[puma1552]

what an enthusiast brand

[JNoSol]

I don't understand the some of the negative comments. The 3 series is a beautiful platform for plugin hybrid and I would love one for a daily driver. VW has won awards with their Golf plug in. Some comments made it seem like 320/328/335 are going away with this. With Tesla sharing their technology to the world, BMW has been busy making this affordable i8.

[puma1552]

Originally Posted by JNoSol

I don't understand the some of the negative comments. The 3 series is a beautiful platform for plugin hybrid and I would love one for a daily driver. VW has won awards with their Golf plug in. Some comments made it seem like 320/328/335 are going away with this. With Tesla sharing their technology to the world, BMW has been busy making this affordable i8.

I think the issue is this is an enthusiast website.

This technology announcement might be cool coming from Toyota or Honda - not BMW.

Frankly I'm not sure what's more unnerving, the fact BMW is going this way or the fact half the comments on an enthusiast website are in favor of this. At the rate BMW is going it will only be a matter of time before everything is a FWD plug in POS with no soul. The i3 is disgusting, especially at the price point, surprise surprise.