[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by iamwingman

Not really official yet. Supposedly him or hairy dude from Alfa who lost his seat.

GIO?

[irunalot]

Here is some HAAS info, I hope this team can catch a break and stay in F1.

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by F87source

Well George just went the quickest, but on the C4 tire: Russell (Mercedes) 1m19.608s, C4

The fastest so far during testing was: Lando Norris (McLaren) 1:19.568, C4.

So George isn't really that far off the fastest time during testing thus far, and that's still with a struggling car.


Again I would take all these numbers with a grain of salt, I doubt any team has fully correlated their cars yet and are actually pushing for times. They are probably all still learning their cars.

I just saw this too but it said he was on the C5 tire.

[irunalot]

I think the RB right behind them were on C5s as well.

the 2022 Formula 1 season.
2022 F1 Pre-Season testing - Barcelona - Day 3 - 6pm
Pos Driver Nat. Team Time Laps
1 Lewis Hamilton GBR Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team 1m19.138s 94
2 George Russell GBR Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team 1m19.233s 66
3 Sergio Perez MEX Oracle Bull Racing 1m19.556s 74
4 Max Verstappen NED Oracle Red Bull Racing 1m19.756s 49
5 Sebastian Vettel GER Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team 1m19.824s 48
6 Charles Leclerc MON Scuderia Ferrari 1m19.831s 44
7 Carlos Sainz ESP Scuderia Ferrari 1m20.072s 92
8 Alexander Albon THA Williams Racing 1m20.318s 94
9 Nicholas Latifi CAN Williams Racing 1m20.699s 13
10 Daniel Ricciardo AUS McLaren F1 Team 1m20.790s 86
11 Lando Norris GBR McLaren F1 Team 1m20.827s 52
12 Fernando Alonso ESP BWT Alpine F1 Team 1m21.242s 12
13 Guanyu Zhou CHN Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen 1m21.939s 41
14 Pierre Gasly FRA Scuderia AlphaTauri 1m22.469s 40
15 Nikita Mazepin RUS Uralkali Haas F1 Team 1m26.229s 9
16 Valtteri Bottas FIN Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen 1m30.433s 10
17 Lance Stroll CAN Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team No Time Set 0
18 Yuki Tsunoda JPN Scuderia AlphaTauri No Time Set 0
19 Esteban Ocon FRA BWT Alpine F1 Team No Time Set 0
20 Mick Schumacher GER Uralkali Haas F1 Team No Time Set 0

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Yeah that 13 is bucking like in a bull riding contest.

Charlie got in his Ferrari a 'Porpoising Rollercoaster !

This can't be safe when they brake hard and late during a race !
And I really wonder how they will fix this huge issue ...

[irunalot]

Its fixed through aero and suspension setup. Its really not the big deal everyone is making it out to be, and was an issue with ground effect cars in the 70s. If you can fix it with 70s technology, I'm sure they can fix it now.

This is one aspect that cannot be tested for in CFD and the wind tunnel

[F87source]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

I just saw this too but it said he was on the C5 tire.

That was the latest times, the one I posted was a while back.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by irunalot

Its fixed through aero and suspension setup. Its really not the big deal everyone is making it out to be, and was an issue with ground effect cars in the 70s. If you can fix it with 70s technology, I'm sure they can fix it now.

This is one aspect that cannot be tested for in CFD and the wind tunnel

Sure they can. But then the FIA has to change the suspension regulations first ...

[///M Power-Belgium]

And ...There was this ...

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Charlie got in his Ferrari a 'Porpoising Rollercoaster !

This can't be safe when they brake hard and late during a race !
And I really wonder how they will fix this huge issue ...

Rock a bye baby.. that would rock you off to sleep.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

And ...There was this ...

It could be over for Mazepin because of the Ukrainan crisis and Fittipaldi has been drawn up as a first choice replacement.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

It could be over for Mazepin because of the Ukrainan crisis and Fittipaldi has been drawn up as a first choice replacement.

It should be over!!! Daddy and Putin are too close.

Mazepin’s father Dmitry is an oligarch with close links to Putin and attended a one-to-one meeting with the president on the same day he launched a violent assault on Ukraine.

[irunalot]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Sure they can. But then the FIA has to change the suspension regulations first ...

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Sure they can. But then the FIA has to change the suspension regulations first ...

No need to make any changes, they outlawed the inerter and hydraulic actuated heave springs. You can fix it with stiffer roll springs, stiffer or progressive rate heave springs. Sure an inerter or mass damper would help as well but it's not the only solution. It can also be fixed aerodynamically.

If you watch the wrap up video I posted yesterday and actual F1 engineer walks you through solutions, it's perfectly possible to resolve with the current suspensions.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by irunalot

No need to make any changes, they outlawed the inerter and hydraulic actuated heave springs. You can fix it with stiffer roll springs, stiffer or progressive rate heave springs. Sure an inerter or mass damper would help as well but it's not the only solution. It can also be fixed aerodynamically.

If you watch the wrap up video I posted yesterday and actual F1 engineer walks you through solutions, it's perfectly possible to resolve with the current suspensions.

Yup, and I'm thinking progressive springs are the way to go so you don't lose any compliance for low speed situations while having it super stiff for high speed high down force situations.

[irunalot]

Originally Posted by F87source

Yup, and I'm thinking progressive springs are the way to go so you don't lose any compliance for low speed situations while having it super stiff for high speed high down force situations.

Originally Posted by F87source

Yup, and I'm thinking progressive springs are the way to go so you don't lose any compliance for low speed situations while having it super stiff for high speed high down force situations.

That's looks like the best solution on paper. Does not effect on roll stiffness and still allows you to get the maximum downforce. It's also possible to tune that heave with the compression on the heave damper. It would be a shame to bleed off some downforce to stop it.

Some of the cars looked a bit better through the chicane late in the day today. Sure the cars will be more refined at the next test.

[F87source]

Well another 2 weeks of waiting till we see more F1 action.

I suspect the cars to look alot different the next time we see them, because the teams have alot to fix in order to obtain stability under load. Also I'm sure teams like Alfa and Haas have some reliability issues to work out, and everyone else after fixing porpoising will likely try to recoup some low speed performance.

[M5Rick]

Whoever was faster at Barcelona is meaningless at this early stage, even Alfa could have stuck on softs, had a few litres of fuel then turned up the boost and got the prize lap.
Warmer Bahrain will be a different set of dishes.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Whoever was faster at Barcelona is meaningless at this early stage, even Alfa could have stuck on softs, had a few litres of fuel then turned up the boost and got the prize lap.
Warmer Bahrain will be a different set of dishes.

Check out the 'swirling airstream moment , coming from a 'Porpoising Rollercoaster...

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

GIO?

For you ...Check this out !

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

For you ...Check this out !

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Check out the 'swirling airstream moment , coming from a 'Porpoising Rollercoaster...

Norris is having a quick ciggie there

[M5Rick]

Alfa has finally officially launched their car,the C42 not bad looking in red and white with the wheels painted so they look like alloys lol So that makes all of the '22 runners set to go.