[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

How is cooling the intake plenum cheating?

To be honest personally IDK...The listed article made it sound like it was

The real question is if it's legal why isn't RB and everyone else doing it?

[inTgr8r]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Merc suspected of cheating by cooling plenum chamber
https://www.gpblog.com/en/news/90731...directive.html

You better read your source again...
It's RB that have been cheating.
Mystery solved where RB's new found power came from

a new directive from the FIA. "There has reportedly been a disagreement for four months about how the Japanese conduct their energy management,"

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by inTgr8r

You better read your source again...
It's RB that have been cheating.
Mystery solved where RB's new found power came from

Cheating? IDK, inferred it from this:

"However, Red Bull suspects that Mercedes did manage to find more power thanks to a trick. The Milton Keynes-based team, like Ferrari, thinks that Mercedes is cooling the air collector (plenum) at certain stages to make more power available. This could be used during a qualifying session or at the start of the race. For example, the plenum could be cooled with dry ice.

According to Auto, Motor und Sport, systematic plenum cooling is at least a grey area. Possibly it is even not allowed at all. "Especially if you support the cooler air in the collector in the short term by adding more fuel,"

[Ngilbe36]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Excellent Find!!!

Note how Lewis doesnt say Ferrari are dirty cheaters and deserve to be boo'd. He just says they need to put their heads down and get further out in front.

On that point though, I will say Max has been pretty tame and respectful compared to his past outbursts. Karen and Darth are doing all the talking and warmongering.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

ah ha...so MB figured out a cheat that doesn't include smoke pouring out the exhaust.

There are more ways to know from an experienced F1 tech

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Cheating? IDK, inferred it from this:

"However, Red Bull suspects that Mercedes did manage to find more power thanks to a trick. The Milton Keynes-based team, like Ferrari, thinks that Mercedes is cooling the air collector (plenum) at certain stages to make more power available. This could be used during a qualifying session or at the start of the race. For example, the plenum could be cooled with dry ice.

According to Auto, Motor und Sport, systematic plenum cooling is at least a grey area. Possibly it is even not allowed at all. "Especially if you support the cooler air in the collector in the short term by adding more fuel,"

Answered him for me

[minn19]

Originally Posted by inTgr8r

You better read your source again...
It's RB that have been cheating.
Mystery solved where RB's new found power came from

I love it when people post articles without fully reading them thinking it helps their side.

Sounds like potential issues from both sides. Which isn't surprising in a close title fight like this.

I wonder what RBs "evidence" is now. Did they see a bunch of Yeti coolers in MB's stall?

[inTgr8r]

Originally Posted by minn19

I love it when people post articles without fully reading them thinking it helps their side.

Sounds like potential issues from both sides. Which isn't surprising in a close title fight like this.

I wonder what RBs "evidence" is now. Did they see a bunch of Yeti coolers in MB's stall?

I suspect RB's claim is entirely to deflect what they have been up to.

[inTgr8r]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Answered him for me

No.
RB is just deflecting away from what Honda has been doing with the PU.
RB use this game plan all the time.
It's ALWAYS someone else..... RB is all sweetness and innocence

[SenorFunkyPants]

Allegations of Merc cheating coming from Red Bull the most cheating team on the grid.
Honi soit qui mal y pense
And Red Bull fans suck it up like its gospel.

[Steeler]

Originally Posted by SenorFunkyPants

Allegations of Merc cheating coming from Red Bull the most cheating team on the grid.
Honi soit qui mal y pense
And Red Bull fans suck it up like its gospel.

Don't need to look much further than the team name to suss out their MO.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by inTgr8r

No.
RB is just deflecting away from what Honda has been doing with the PU.
RB use this game plan all the time.
It's ALWAYS someone else..... RB is all sweetness and innocence

You obviously haven't seen or ignored my posts on Merc having 4-5 year advantage with hybrid engine.
Didn't you see my posts of Montezemolo,Ferrari President then saying Lauda told him Merc were BUILDING V6 hybrid in 2007 and Lauda didn't deny saying that when he was still living.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by Ngilbe36

Note how Lewis doesnt say Ferrari are dirty cheaters and deserve to be boo'd. He just says they need to put their heads down and get further out in front.

On that point though, I will say Max has been pretty tame and respectful compared to his past outbursts. Karen and Darth are doing all the talking and warmongering.

Two separate issues. I've never condoned large groups of people booing individuals.

I simply found it ironic HAM complaining about Ferraris taking out MBs in back to back races.

What happened this year? MBs taking out RBs in back to back races. Of course, depending on what side of the Silverstone incident one lands on.

[tdott]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

I agree completely .The Russell boy has to learn at Mercedes

•1 The dirty tricks
•2 How to be a lapdog
•3 Best way to cheat
•4 Get used to get 100% FIA support
•5 How to kneel
•6 How to handle the warp-speed
•7 No matter what happens in the race ,pull over and let HAM by

What a load of crap, never seen more non-sense before.

[racerbruce]

Tell me....who is leading the 2021 F! WDC and F1 Constructors??

[FuzzyPeaches]

Originally Posted by tdott

What a load of crap, never seen more non-sense before.

You haven't been paying attention to this forum, then.

[Ngilbe36]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Two separate issues. I've never condoned large groups of people booing individuals.

I simply found it ironic HAM complaining about Ferraris taking out MBs in back to back races.

What happened this year? MBs taking out RBs in back to back races. Of course, depending on what side of the Silverstone incident one lands on.

Yeah, good old online text communication not carrying intent, but I wasnt arguing with you. It is funny that the same circumstances occurred between Merc and Fer a few years back. My additional comments were just that. Its a good clip and is definitely relevant. Thanks for sharing

[inTgr8r]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

You obviously haven't seen or ignored my posts on Merc having 4-5 year advantage with hybrid engine.
Didn't you see my posts of Montezemolo,Ferrari President then saying Lauda told him Merc were BUILDING V6 hybrid in 2007 and Lauda didn't deny saying that when he was still living.

More hearsay and idle speculation, but what's your point???

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by racerbruce

Tell me....who is leading the 2021 F! WDC and F1 Constructors??

Kimi

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by inTgr8r

More hearsay and idle speculation, but what's your point???

I've said facts to you and it's clear you're ignoring them, how old are you?

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Kimi

I believe he is heheh

[inTgr8r]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

I've said facts to you and it's clear you're ignoring them, how old are you?

again, what is your point?
Merc plans ahead and RB doesn't.
= Merc is successful and RB hasn't been