[NYG]

Originally Posted by Mr Pete

How many more races do Max and Leclerc show this 'respect' to each other before the gloves really come off lol

I think they've already lived through that and have a mutual respect for each other. I don't think they'll get too nasty with each other.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Mr Pete

How many more races do Max and Leclerc show this 'respect' to each other before the gloves really come off lol

It won't be long before that happens, as Max tightens the screw on him there is sure to be a reaction though short of ramming with these two new strict director bods in.

[NYG]

[M3WC]

Checo got screwed.

DRS is too powerful.

Russ in the Merc was down 17+ sec from Perez after just 10 laps. Merc was an easy 1.5 sec a lap slower in race pace.

[Bubbles]

Leclerc and Max put on a very good show, hard racing and mutual respect. Good to see Leclerc congratulate Max on the radio.

Mutual respect versus vitriol is welcomed.

Less drama more hard racing.

Leclerc is very clever with his driving, great racing between two drivers.

Checo had incredible pace, bad luck with the safety car.

Sainz can’t hang with Leclerc, possible “wingman” naming coming since his contract extension has yet to be signed.

Great to see Binotto and Horner talking in the pits during the weekend.

Russell did a great job, it was a weekend he needed.

Hammy’s hubris influenced his decision to make changes to the set up over engineers’ advice. He paid the price.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by NYG

It feels like Redbull are taking some influence from Merc last season. They realize how much more top speeds helped them especially on the second half of the season versus the heavy downforce RB.

Merc didn't even have the highest top speed last season, Mercedes always have the high down force low top speed approach. Look at the w11 - fastest F1 car ever it was all about the down force on that car, and it always had a really low trap speed vs. the rest.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

The Red Bull has a higher top speed , but the Ferrari is so much faster when they pull out of a corner ..
The Ferrari PU has clearly a lot more torque than the HONDA PU ...

It's gear ratio, the Ferrari has shorter gearing.

[NYG]

Originally Posted by F87source

Merc didn't even have the highest top speed last season, Mercedes always have the high down force low top speed approach. Look at the w11 - fastest F1 car ever it was all about the down force on that car, and it always had a really low trap speed vs. the rest.

Their acceleration in the straights blew everyone away in the second half of the season. The Redbull had better downforce in all aspects all season long. Max outcornered Lewis almost everywhere.

[NYG]

Did Estrella Galicia forget to pay their bill to Ferrari? I noticed their logos are blacked out everywhere.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

The thumbs up from LEC to VER at the finish is the beginning of a new era.
I think both Ferrari and RB have been fed up by the years of political games of Merc.

Might want to add RB into there to. This stays this close between Ferrari and RB to the end you will see Marko/Horner playing plenty of political and whatever else games.

They really do live rent free in your guys’s heads. Even when down and out they are always on your mind. Quite the testament to their dominance.

[TheBingoBalls]

Originally Posted by F87source

Merc didn't even have the highest top speed last season, Mercedes always have the high down force low top speed approach. Look at the w11 - fastest F1 car ever it was all about the down force on that car, and it always had a really low trap speed vs. the rest.

This. Not including last season, Mercedes never really had or was known for their top-end speed, it was more about their chassis. During HAM dominance, his car was the most balanced, whether that was by design or was catered to HAM.

[Bartledoo]

How long until they modify DRS? The drivers almost coming to a stop for dibs probably means it’s too powerful lol. Quite entertaining though.

The new regs really did work!

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

Merc didn't even have the highest top speed last season, Mercedes always have the high down force low top speed approach. Look at the w11 - fastest F1 car ever it was all about the down force on that car, and it always had a really low trap speed vs. the rest.

You must be kidding..
HAM's 2021 Brazilian Rocket PU Grenade overtook the whole field like they were standing still !

The Mercedes top speed was actually unseen !
Don't tell me it was HAM . Currently even Russell is faster than him...

[irunalot]

I only reason Russ was faster this weekend was due to a setup gone wrong with Hams car. That was clearly stated in the pre-race show.

[MontyB1]

Originally Posted by NYG

Did Estrella Galicia forget to pay their bill to Ferrari? I noticed their logos are blacked out everywhere.

Saudi has a ban on alcohol so they don’t show the logos and also why it’s not champagne sprayed on the podium as well.

[Killed by Death]

Loving the new regs, that's some proper racing!!!

Ferrari gonna have to give up some wing. Way too vulnerable on the straights.

#RedBullJetMode

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Loving the new regs, that's some proper racing!!!

Ferrari gonna have to give up some wing. Way too vulnerable on the straights.

#MaxIsJetMode

FTFY

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by minn19

Might want to add RB into there to. This stays this close between Ferrari and RB to the end you will see Marko/Horner playing plenty of political and whatever else games.

They really do live rent free in your guys’s heads. Even when down and out they are always on your mind. Quite the testament to their dominance.

I don't think you understand the political games I'm talking about.
For instance last year RB suggested that it's not fair if a car gets taken out in a crash caused by another driver and subsequently needs a new PU or so because of that damage, it's not fair that that is penalized and is subtracted from the PU's to use in a season.

Ferrari agreed to that.
But of course Merc didnt, and lo and behold.....every team that used a merc powersource (and ONLY teams with a merc power source) didnt...

It's these kinds of politics, that pretty much take away the independance of teams, that both RB and Ferrari don't agree to, and I don't think events like this will be forgotten by RB/Ferrari/Alpine.

That is why they rather race eachother than race against Merc. as Merc is the team that tries to extend their influence across other teams beyond the service they deliver.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

You must be kidding..
HAM's 2021 Brazilian Rocket PU Grenade overtook the whole field like they were standing still !

The Mercedes top speed was actually unseen !
Don't tell me it was HAM . Currently even Russell is faster than him...

I already debunked this multiple times and showed you trap speed data, it wasn't all about the speed on the w12 it was cornering too. The entire package was vastly better than the entire field minus redbull so it was easy to over take them. Then the new engine allowed the Merc to run at its full potential whereas before it was losing alot of power via degredation. So it was a blend of way better cornering and better power vs. the entire field just like the w11 was. Yet their trap speeds were no where near the top.


Mercedes never focused on out right speed it was always about downforce for them.



Strange when Max started from the back and finished in p2 you said it was all max despite the rb16b being superior to literally every car last season up until the end when Mercedes caught up. Guess it was just the car.

[TheBingoBalls]

Originally Posted by F87source

I already debunked this multiple times and showed you trap speed data, it wasn't all about the speed on the w12 it was cornering too. The entire package was vastly better than the entire field minus redbull so it was easy to over take them. Then the new engine allowed the Merc to run at its full potential whereas before it was losing alot of power via degredation. So it was a blend of way better cornering and better power vs. the entire field just like the w11 was. Yet their trap speeds were no where near the top.


Mercedes never focused on out right speed it was always about downforce for them.



Strange when Max started from the back and finished in p2 you said it was all max despite the rb16b being superior to literally every car last season up until the end when Mercedes caught up. Guess it was just the car.

Agreed. People need to stop the argument of it's all driver vs. it's all car. At the end of the day, you need both to succeed. Being a good driver can only take you so far. If you have an inferior car, you might be able to position yourself ahead of some drivers but the likelihood of actually winning a GP is next to nil unless there's a catastrophic accident where it takes out the entire grid.

[Humdizzle]

Will it stay nice ? hard to say. If we start seeing one driver punt another off with the "that was my line" attitude or the stewards favoring one driver over another that could flare tensions.

When HAM and VER were fighting it was like two bulls, nobody wanted to give an inch. LEC's stance seems to be more of the matador here.. trying to use Max's aggression against him.

a bit unlucky for charles today. things may have been different if the double yellow was in another part of the track instead of sector one where he had an advantage over the RB.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by Bartledoo

How long until they modify DRS? The drivers almost coming to a stop for dibs probably means it’s too powerful lol. Quite entertaining though.

The new regs really did work!

Crazy right? I thought drs would be alot weaker this year due to the wing design but guess not.


Also I doubt drs will be fully fine because slip stream is alot weaker.