[SheaButter]

Originally Posted by PoorLurker

nice addition!

I actually don't know much about stock trading. Am still learning. There just seems to be so much to learn and my beginner's luck is wearing off, haha.

Haha yeah it's funny how much legitimate beginners luck I see. Once you start consistently making money you'll find yourself glued to your screen from 630am-1pm when you have floating cash needing to be invested or reallocated. #addicting. But hey, there could be worse things to be addicted to than making money, right?

[ScarecrowBoat]

Originally Posted by BayMoWe335

Not sure why fantastic is in quotes. AAPL's earnings are in reality, nothing short of fantastic. They are insane.

Agreed, AAPL will need to continue to look to other areas for growth, but guess what? They can buy growth. And it's insane what they can buy in cash alone. They could buy a TON moron if they exchanged stock, used cash, and even borrowed. Just looking at cash here...

They could buy, NFLX, TSLA, and IBM. Think about that, they could buy IBM, NFLX, and TSLA almost entirely in cash. (this ignores a premium that probably would have to be paid, but looks at current market cap).

WIth $200b+ they could buy the entire Walt Disney Company.

And guess what again? They make $10b in profit every single quarter and it's growing. Their growth is actually incredible (35% in earnings y/y) and they still have China and India to grow.

Not saying this is the perfect company, but the numbers are insane. The ecosystem and "Stickiness" of there customers are insane. Macbook has tons of room to run.

iPad has room in enterprise (partnering with IBM right now).

The watch is not done. People forget the iPhone wasn't even a smash hit in the beginning. It takes time. It takes apps. It takes marketing and tweaking. They can make a nice little business out of the watch.

They can also drop a bombshell that they are buying TSLA and building a car by 2020 and I guarantee the stock would immediately go to $150+, maybe higher.

Wallstreet wants a story. While I criticize AAPL for not hyping the stock more, they can turn that around by just dropping a few bombshells while also crushing the smartphone industry.

I'd say if you have the balls and the patience, hold AAPL because there could be some insane news around the corner. Their earnings and cash position are too powerful for them to just whither away.

iPhone is stronger than ever...nothing has changed except the stock price and everyone knows AAPL is one of if not the most manipulated stock on Wallstreet.

It's in quotes because I was quoting the person above me.

I agree that Apple is a behemoth, I was just pointing out that Apple is probably not going to be a growth stock in the next 5+ years. It very well could become a Berkshire type company that just owns a lot of other diverse companies and prints money consistently. It may be the type of thing you want to allocate a large chunk of your $5M+ portfolio to because it is safe. My point is that there are bigger fish to be had at the moment due to their massive market cap and built in growth in their share price.

[BayMoWe335]

Originally Posted by ScarecrowBoat

It's in quotes because I was quoting the person above me.

I agree that Apple is a behemoth, I was just pointing out that Apple is probably not going to be a growth stock in the next 5+ years. It very well could become a Berkshire type company that just owns a lot of other diverse companies and prints money consistently. It may be the type of thing you want to allocate a large chunk of your $5M+ portfolio to because it is safe. My point is that there are bigger fish to be had at the moment due to their massive market cap and built in growth in their share price.

I hear you on 5+ years, but I just argued that AAPL can so easily buy growth and have a gigantic buyback program, which will grow EPS significantly without any growth in sales.

Fact is, they are a growth company today and they are kicking the ass of their biggest competitor.

[MrPrena]

I am glad that this thread has become a thread with some intermediate to professional investors or people in the sector.

This thread has been full of "cock eye ball Technical analysis" They bring out a straight ruler and guesstimate the variance + get support/resistance.

[MrPrena]

damn Sprint. Another "Would've Could've should've"
I really wanted to pull the trigger at 2,90s last week.
Currently trading at 4.65

[ska///235i]

I know I should do my own research but may I ask if anyone know if AAPL buybacks is an open market buy back or are they offering a tender offer?

[nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn]

Originally Posted by ska///235i

I know I should do my own research but may I ask if anyone know if AAPL buybacks is an open market buy back or are they offering a tender offer?

They won't tell you. And why does it matter?

[MrPrena]

Originally Posted by ska///235i

I know I should do my own research but may I ask if anyone know if AAPL buybacks is an open market buy back or are they offering a tender offer?

Originally Posted by nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

They won't tell you. And why does it matter?

I don't think street is looking MAINLY at a better EPS. They are looking at growth even on defensive and safety nets. With that being said, it won't be ideal situation for AAPL to buyback. It would be "most likely" better to just M&A other companies for now.
WHen the market hit the fan, buy back would be more ideal. (just looking at the SHTF history).

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by MrPrena

I don't think street is looking MAINLY at a better EPS. They are looking at growth even on defensive and safety nets. With that being said, it won't be ideal situation for AAPL to buyback. It would be "most likely" better to just M&A other companies for now.
WHen the market hit the fan, buy back would be more ideal. (just looking at the SHTF history).

...or they could simply buy a country...or five...

[deeLow]

Originally Posted by ASBSECU E93

...or they could simply buy a country...or five...

Hire a bunch of people and run a factory.

How would you go about spending that much money?

[MrPrena]

Oil is falling faster than I thought.
Crude Oil Oct 15 (CLV15.NYM) -NY Mercantile
40.93 Down 2.19(5.08%) 4:11PM EDT

Get in at 38? (I was initially wanted to get in at 42)

[PoorLurker]

Originally Posted by MrPrena

Oil is falling faster than I thought.
Crude Oil Oct 15 (CLV15.NYM) -NY Mercantile
40.93 Down 2.19(5.08%) 4:11PM EDT

Get in at 38? (I was initially wanted to get in at 42)

I was watching UWTI this morning and saw it fall flat on its face.

Was also watching Sprint a couple days ago and never pulled the trigger. I guess I am being too lazy to pull the trigger these days.

[MrPrena]

Originally Posted by PoorLurker

I was watching UWTI this morning and saw it fall flat on its face.

Was also watching Sprint a couple days ago and never pulled the trigger. I guess I am being too lazy to pull the trigger these days.

Same here.
I am still kicking myself for not buying Sprint. Odds of Son and Softbank abandoning S this year is slim to none.

[MrPrena]

tech hammered!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Today is a great example that down (bear) day is not necessary equal to ^VIX. It is mostly proportional, but way more variable than inverse indicies etfs.

[ASBSECU E93]

All you can do is sit and wait now....$#@^%$#$%!!!!!!

[NickyC]

NEED MOAR QE4 TO PROP THIS PHONY MARKET UP!!!

Mr. Yellen, save us!!

[PSUSMU]

halp

[BayMoWe335]

Crying.

[NickyC]

Nothing to worry about, BTFD!!

[MrPrena]

Is Crude bottom 38-39 or 32?

[MrPrena]

Originally Posted by MrPrena

If they don't have something new streamline of revenue i-whatever, I would agree. People who are in AAPL are already speculating they will have Prev Q earning per Q + ~5% QoQ growth.

Originally Posted by Needbmwpartzz

I predict bad things for Apple.
Don't say I didn't warn everyone!

106.27 right now.

[BayMoWe335]

Originally Posted by MrPrena

106.27 right now.

The only problem with your statement is the latest hammering really has little to do with AAPL and more to do with the greater market selloff. You could have said the same thing about DIS, NFLX, AMZN, TSLA, IBM, MSFT, XOM, etc etc and been right.

This just gives the bulls a lower entry point. I'd be worried if AAPL got hammered while everything else was up...not the case. This is ugly for a lot of companies and AAPL still has better growth than GOOGL and the best balance sheet in the world. It's not perfect, but you could do far worse.