[MontyB1]

Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

I would be disappointed if this Ford thing really happens. Red Bull pushed hard to do everything in house and preached the importance of being able to do both like Ferrari and Mercedes and even built RBPT.

Might still be just that just a Ford badge representing RB powertrain. Merc engines are what used to be Ilmor Engineering who also did engines for Honda in Indycar etc. etc. but got bought by Merc and they put the badge not that motor in essence.

I'm more interested that 2x new teams might get the change to join F1 from 2025 and they are allowed to apply. Its an apply now or STFU moment for Andretti and who else I wonder....

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

I would be disappointed if this Ford thing really happens. Red Bull pushed hard to do everything in house and preached the importance of being able to do both like Ferrari and Mercedes and even built RBPT.

Ferrari and Mercedes are huge manufacturers and Red Bull Racing is minute but classed as a manufacturer now with their own in house Power Trains so really can't say no if Ford or whoever come in with pots of money with RB still calling the shots but we'll see what Honda can say to that.

[TheBingoBalls]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Ferrari and Mercedes are huge manufacturers and Red Bull Racing is minute but classed as a manufacturer now with their own in house Power Trains so really can't say no if Ford or whoever come in with pots of money with RB still calling the shots but we'll see what Honda can say to that.

I fully understand the money part of it, but unless Red Bull themselves was just blowing smoke everyone's a--ses, with Honda announcing they were ready to leave F1, Red Bull wanted to go it alone - take whatever Honda left them and build off that.

But if they're going to suddenly "sell-out", that's the part I'm going to be disappointed about. I think Red Bull is at a point where they're a F1 powerhouse and they do have the resources to go it alone, but could they do it completely on their own? That's the part I was excited to see.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

I fully understand the money part of it, but unless Red Bull themselves was just blowing smoke everyone's a--ses, with Honda announcing they were ready to leave F1, Red Bull wanted to go it alone - take whatever Honda left them and build off that.

But if they're going to suddenly "sell-out", that's the part I'm going to be disappointed about. I think Red Bull is at a point where they're a F1 powerhouse and they do have the resources to go it alone, but could they do it completely on their own? That's the part I was excited to see.

I agree, it would be more interesting if they did go solo.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

I really like the dark blue matte glow . It makes the car look like a stealth jet fighter .

Getting set to watch the launch in NYC beginning at 14:30 GMT and 15:30 EMT.
There is a live stream on RN365.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

Max just seems to be a take no prisoners kind of guy. Might come back to bite him at some point

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

''Oui I am here now and it is all bon, allons-y Ferrari !''

[Joachim]

LIVE: Red Bull Take the Covers off Their 2023 Challenger

[M5Rick]

Ford announce they are officially back in F1 in 2026 and no prizes for guessing who with though they still yet have to confirm.
https://racingnews365.com/ford-annou...es--2023-02-03

[OG Shark]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Ford announce they are officially back in F1 in 2026 and no prizes for guessing who with though they still yet have to confirm.
https://racingnews365.com/ford-annou...es--2023-02-03

Me and my Fords approve

[Killed by Death]

BMW still not getting back in the F1 game

[paulo_f80m3]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

BMW still not getting back in the F1 game

It's okay at least we have the iX.

[M5Rick]

Still the same colour scheme on the 19, thank goodness.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Still the same colour scheme on the 19, thank goodness.

[3798j]

The larger (for '23) rear view mirror...

[TheBingoBalls]

Welp. Guess Red Bull can’t do it alone or choose not to. Ford + Red Bull official. Not sure about the details though.

Disappointed.

[3798j]

Ford has history...
"Red Bull is still based at the same factory Ford helped set up in 1996 as the main backer of the then Stewart Grand Prix team."

"Ford has a rich history in F1, most notably through its funding of Cosworth's development of the legendary DFV engine in the 1960s, 1970s and early 1980s. The Cosworth DFV remains the most successful engine in F1 history, powering a number of different teams to 155 victories over a period of 16 years."

https://www.espn.com/f1/story/_/id/3...-2026-red-bull

[3798j]

The FIA says there are six that have signed up as 2026 engine suppliers...

Alpine
Ferrari
Mercedes Benz AMG
Audi
RedBull Ford
Honda

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

whoop whoop

[NYG]

It's still going to be, fundamentally the Honda engine for 2026. Improvements by engineers at RBPT. I don't think Ford is really going to do anything besides sell a ton of cars from, what appears to be a very well paved path for success until 2026 at RBR.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by NYG

It's still going to be, fundamentally the Honda engine for 2026. Improvements by engineers at RBPT. I don't think Ford is really going to do anything besides sell a ton of cars from, what appears to be a very well paved path for success until 2026 at RBR.

Three long years the HRC and Honda insignia with their tech will remain pleasing Honda somewhat who will power RB and AT and will give Honda plenty of time to look for a new team(s) who will get fed up of the Merc/Wolff strangle hold.

[Killed by Death]

Sounds fixed to me