[Killed by Death]

LOOK what I got in the mail today

[F87source]

Saw this while I was browing through some f1 stuff, and the alpha tauri has a really high nose too - just wanted to point it out that, this is a normal concept for ground effect based cars. Gotta feed those venturi tunnels, as they are way more important than the front wing. I also wonder why they didn't adopt redbull's front pull rod suspension.

[inTgr8r]

Originally Posted by F87source

Saw this while I was browing through some f1 stuff, and the alpha tauri has a really high nose too - .......

There's no way that can be the race wing... it'll fly off the track @ 300kph

[F87source]

Originally Posted by inTgr8r

There's no way that can be the race wing... it'll fly off the track @ 300kph

These "dumb" engineers...

[F87source]

The Mercs drs mechanism in action:

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by F87source

Saw this while I was browing through some f1 stuff, and the alpha tauri has a really high nose too - just wanted to point it out that, this is a normal concept for ground effect based cars. Gotta feed those venturi tunnels, as they are way more important than the front wing. I also wonder why they didn't adopt redbull's front pull rod suspension.

At least they don't have to worry about curb damage anymore.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

At least they don't have to worry about curb damage anymore.

Very true!

But floor damage is probably a huge concern.

[F87source]

So I was reading more about the w13 on F1 technical and they were looking at cockpit distance from the front wheels. They're speculating that the w13 has the furthest forward cockpit out of all the F1 cars launched so far to increase the under floor length in hopes of I creasing downforce. This is probably why the floor inlets are such a peculiar shape in the Merc. This was also speculated to be a feature on the rb18 but we haven't seen anything yet.

So Merc caught onto that feature as well I suppose. Very intriguing all these little detail, can't wait for the show and tell that is mandated.

[NYG]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

LOOK what I got in the mail today

Fellow 2nd Amendment brah.

[F87source]

Alpha Tauri shake down:

Man the Honda engine sounds horrible at low rpm, and at high load isn't that good either. Maybe that'll change based on engine modes but we will have to wait for more testing footage as only 1 Honda powered team has had any footage.

In other notes you can see them do some brake adjustments, changing of engine covers etc. When yuki and Pierre switch.

[F87source]

So some more interesting things I saw on F1 technical. It's speculated that Mercedes is being extremely clever with their floor design - like alot more than the other teams thus far. So they made their floor inlet sculpted in such a way it acts like a barge board, and the intricacies on the floor create vortices that kick out tire wake and seal the under floor.

So it appears Mercedes despite looking simpler has created some very very nice solutions. Just like prior seasons despite their car looking simpler than the others it just works and is immensely fast. Can't wait to see more break downs and track performance.


Here are some pictures from F1 technical:

Inlet that's shaped like a barge board (from pantherxxx)
https://www.f1technical.net/forum/vi...0215&start=135

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See images of the vortices (from e30ernest):

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by F87source

So some more interesting things I saw on F1 technical. It's speculated that Mercedes is being extremely clever with their floor design - like alot more than the other teams thus far. So they made their floor inlet sculpted in such a way it acts like a barge board, and the intricacies on the floor create vortices that kick out tire wake and seal the under floor.

So it appears Mercedes despite looking simpler has created some very very nice solutions. Just like prior seasons despite their car looking simpler than the others it just works and is immensely fast. Can't wait to see more break downs and track performance.


Here are some pictures from F1 technical:

Inlet that's shaped like a barge board (from pantherxxx)
https://www.f1technical.net/forum/vi...0215&start=135

The guy doing CFD work on side pods is nuts. Interesting he found Ferrari's large side pods actually reduce drag while increasing down force. I wonder if Ferrari found something here, they clearly have designed their car around these large side pods. But it is Ferrari, they most certainly have or will F something up.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by M3WC

The guy doing CFD work on side pods is nuts. Interesting he found Ferrari's large side pods actually reduce drag while increasing down force. I wonder if Ferrari found something here, they clearly have designed their car around these large side pods. But it is Ferrari, they most certainly have or will F something up.

Yeah I was just reading about that on F1 technical, it contradicts what scarbs was saying today on the pod cast. I think maybe scarbs was looking at the old stuff on F1 technical.

But regardless if the guy doing the CFD work is right Ferrari is onto something.


But the whole thing around Ferrari right now is so mixed messaging. Today I hear something amazing is happening then I hear the total opposite minutes later. Literally binotto went out and said if things don't work out this season they'd be willing to copy the best idea. That doesn't spell confidence to me and scares me alot. Especially with the budget cap there isn't enough money nor wind tunnel and CFD resources to build a b spec car. So if Ferrari is behind this season they'll be behind maybe next season too because while everyone is moving forward they'll have to copy.


But then again this is all rumour and speculation until the season starts. But it is sure as hell exciting!

[F87source]

RB18 testing, side pods are insane! Pictures coming in soon (I've seen it on WTF1, but no static images yet). It literally looks like the side of the car is missing. It's kinda ugly but my god is it intriguing.


But in the mean time, notice the height of the front wing. Yeah, a high front wing is normal as previously discussed........

[F87source]

RB18 side pod:

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

I've watched it on my big screen with 5.1 surround sound system ( Bowers & Wilkins )
All I can say is ...I could feel the cars . Good Lord !!!

Next is Drive2Survive (March 11)

Let it come ...

At Barcelona today it's Max in the 18 all day followed by Checo on Thursday.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by F87source

RB18 side pod:

Good pics there, yes at the mo it looks not too high-ish front wing and low side pods to get that ground effect. Heard there won't be any vids for a while.
I see there won't be any Honda writing apart from the small HRC Honda Racing on the PU cover. The rear wing is so flat I can't see the big writing on it.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Good pics there, yes at the mo it looks not too high-ish front wing and low side pods to get that ground effect. Heard there won't be any vids for a while.
I see there won't be any Honda writing apart from the small HRC Honda Racing on the PU cover. The rear wing is so flat I can't see the big writing on it.

Thanks, not my pics it was from the race if you guys want to see all the other cars too. Way too many pics to load them all and their site keeps crashing because the web traffic is insane: https://the-race.com/f1-testing-2022-barcelona-day-1/


You can also read about the driving styles too, max is going smooth early braking, early acceleration to keep the car as flat as possible to maximize the air flow to the venturi tunnels by keeping it level. But charles is beating the crap out of the ferrari with heavy steering inputs, late braking. So far I don't know what the best approach is because they both are getting good times.


The front wing is pretty high, depends on the image you look at it from. It is deceiving, because from all the car launches it looks like the wing is normal height but if you get a frontal shot it really is high up.


Low floor not side pod, low floor to maximize the sealing for ground effect. Well as low as possible because there are rules on this.


You are correct zero videos till the march official season testing. We are getting lap times which is insane, because they said they wouldn't be timing this.

Yeah I saw the honda logo there too, so honda ain't gone after all! and yeah the wing is so flat I can't see much either. The drs flap is tiny too, and apparently people are braking so late that overtaking might not be as easy as anticipated, and drs won't be a big help.



Ferrari is FAST atm, ferrari fans might have some hope this year!

[M5Rick]

It must be BYB IT on the back wing as on the front.

[F87source]

RB shake down video, really just a quick montage:

I think it says oracle on the back.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by F87source

RB shake down video, really just a quick montage:

I think it says oracle on the back.

That's cool but I was referring to the top of the rear wing, it's probably BYB IT...and c'mon choose yourself a team to support.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

That's cool but I was referring to the top of the rear wing, it's probably BYB IT...and c'mon choose yourself a team to support.

I can't tell what is says, but I'm sure more pics will pop up soon.

Nah I can't pick because I really don't care lol. I'm just happy right now because all these cool cars are out and we get to analyze them. Most of them except the Haas and RB, haven't changed from their launch. So the teams are really forth coming this year. I mean they will have to be with the new show and tell rules.


On a side note, dang that ferrai is fast.