[Mavus]

What do you mean what.the.f**k??

We got x7, x2, x3m, 2 gc and 4k lbs 3 series while chevy was developing c8. Also don't forget z28 and zl1.

P put 4 cyl in cayman - awesome stuff P!!


BMW really lost it. I don't care about the sales of x models. they lost their balls!

They should have put monster engine in the I8 to make it m8. Instead we get x3m ... embarrassing!

[10"]

Who cares. Like every generation Corvette eventually these will be sitting around unsold at Chevy dealerships with "$10k off!!!" stickers after a year or two.

I grew up in Detroit. Every generation was "sold out" in the beginning...then everyone loses interest. Lol

[pz619]

The new corvette is hard to beat. With 911s now starting at nearly $100k, I have no idea why you someone might think that would be $40k better. Dealership experience, fit/finish, is probably better in the Porsche, but not worth the price premium. The new M4 is also going to be hard to get excited over. Even without the Z51 package, there is no doubt in my mind it’s going to run circles around it’s competitors.

At the end of the day this is a good thing. It’s going to force the competition to get better as well. This car is going to be living proof that you don’t need AWD to make a straight line fast car, which is great for me since I really don’t ever want AWD.

[floridaorange]

Interesting thx for posting.

[esoj37]

That thing is sexy.

[WestRace]

Probably a marketing ploy to get people to buy. GM already is planning to add extra shifts to build as much as they can to satisfy demands.

[Theultimatedrivingmachine]

Lets hope that the M8 is a monster!

[Dackelone]

This Vette is truly a performance bargain of the year! Props to GM for building it.

I just hope it doesn't have the build quality or material feel(cheap hard plastics) of a Cobolt.

Dackel

[Theultimatedrivingmachine]

Agreed. I'm sure it will have minor things here and there but hopefully not as bad as the cooling issues they had with the C7 Z06. Either way I am proud of Chevy. America baby!

[IK6SPEED]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

This Vette is truly a performance bargain of the year! Props to GM for building it.

I just hope it doesn't have the build quality or material feel(cheap hard plastics) of a Cobolt.

Dackel

Corvettes have always creaked like crazy with the fiberglass and plastic parts.

Then again, BMW has so much plastic in the interior now, it's not the most silent car either.

[tebbnsx]

The car is just not a looker IMO. IT LOOKS like a cheap AC DELCO cross between a Ferrari 360 and the new NSX. WHO cares if it’s faster than my M3. I have kids. I would never buy that thing.

[CP911]

Wait, you're telling me a focused sports car with a big, powerful, naturally-aspirated engine mounted directly behind the driver that can do 0-60 in under 3 seconds and goes for $60-$70k will actually sell? You're kidding.

I have my reservations on this new model, but it's still mind blowing how long the industry has gone without someone stepping up to the plate and giving the world a car like this. It's as if these car companies never hired engineers and never wanted to make money. Kudos to Chevy for giving a big middle finger to the industry and finally giving the motoring world what it deserves!

[CP911]

Originally Posted by tebbnsx

The car is just not a looker IMO. IT LOOKS like a cheap AC DELCO cross between a Ferrari 360 and the new NSX. WHO cares if it's faster than my M3. I have kids. I would never buy that thing.

While I don't disagree with you, as long as it doesn't melt over during a hot 2-day HPDE weekend, it will have served its purpose and served it well.

[IK6SPEED]

Sold out for 2020.....and no manuals.

[CP911]

Originally Posted by pz619

The new corvette is hard to beat. With 911s now starting at nearly $100k, I have no idea why you someone might think that would be $40k better. Dealership experience, fit/finish, is probably better in the Porsche, but not worth the price premium. The new M4 is also going to be hard to get excited over. Even without the Z51 package, there is no doubt in my mind it's going to run circles around it's competitors.

At the end of the day this is a good thing. It's going to force the competition to get better as well. This car is going to be living proof that you don't need AWD to make a straight line fast car, which is great for me since I really don't ever want AWD.

I agree with you overall, but let's be honest. If you have the extra $40k for the 911 and don't mind blowing it, that is still THE sports car to have. The C8 will be great, however, for those on a smaller budget or even for those people like myself who can afford more, but find there is a point of diminishing returns with cars in general and feel happier with a less expensive car. Hence, why I used to have a 911, but am now more satisfied with my "cheap" M240i.

[pz619]

Originally Posted by CP911

I agree with you overall, but let's be honest. If you have the extra $40k for the 911 and don't mind blowing it, that is still THE sports car to have. The C8 will be great, however, for those on a smaller budget or even for those people like myself who can afford more, but find there is a point of diminishing returns with cars in general and feel happier with a less expensive car. Hence, why I used to have a 911, but am now more satisfied with my "cheap" M240i.

Obviously I haven’t driven the new C8 or the new Porsche, but it’ll be interesting to see the reviews and comparisons. On paper, it looks like a tough sell. But I get what you are saying. I have a M2C which is roughly the same price as a ZL1. On paper that car is better, but clearly I voted differently with my wallet. Definitely same could apply to the C8 vs 911. Either way, excited to see and try.

[eluded]

Originally Posted by IK6SPEED

Sold out for 2020.....and no manuals.

Old men don't drive sticks. Nice car if a little late. Now let's see all electric car that puts Tesla in its place ? Nope.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by The HACK

Um, EVERYWHERE?

I suppose if you're not a Corvette FANBOI you probably won't know, but the option packages and all the performance specs have been parsed a million times on Corvette Forum, of which a I am ALSO a regular participant (if you can't see it in my avatar, the white car is a Chevrolet).

The 2.8 to 60 time is posted for the Z51, of which every generation with the Z51 offered, the package has come with shorter gearing to improve performance. They even made it a point to spell out that the sub 3 second 0-60 time was achieved in a Z51, not a base Stingray.

I think you're going to have to TRUST ME on this one.

I'd bet we're going to learn that sub 3 second time requires the FE4 upgrade to the Z51 Package, as FE4 adds the Performance Traction Management system.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

...what geezer tracks a car at 68 years old

My father is one who tracks his car while in his 70s... He has a 50th Anniversary Mustang GT (MT) with some mild mods.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by The HACK

WTF BMW. Chevy, CHEVROLET, the company that makes Malibus and Sparks and what not, just made the ONLY car in the world that can hit 60 mph in less than 3 seconds that cost less than $70,000 MSRP.

Good point and I'll add... brought the first extended-range electric car to the market (Volt) and delivered the first long-range, 238-mile EV to the market (Bolt). BMW's first EV.. 80 miles; BMW's first extended-range EV... 120 miles (if no hills). BMW had barely finished paying off EPA fines when GM introduced the Volt

[Rmtt]

Originally Posted by The HACK

Um, EVERYWHERE?

I suppose if you’re not a Corvette FANBOI you probably won’t know, but the option packages and all the performance specs have been parsed a million times on Corvette Forum, of which a I am ALSO a regular participant (if you can’t see it in my avatar, the white car is a Chevrolet).

The 2.8 to 60 time is posted for the Z51, of which every generation with the Z51 offered, the package has come with shorter gearing to improve performance. They even made it a point to spell out that the sub 3 second 0-60 time was achieved in a Z51, not a base Stingray.

I think you’re going to have to TRUST ME on this one.

+1. I'm on CF as well. Been there over 10 years I think. But all Z51 equipped cars came with shorter gearing. You have a beautiful car!

I've always bought a generation behind as I usually end up dumping mod money into them. Have always had a Corvette as a 2nd car as soon as I was financially to do so!

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by glennQNYC

I'd bet we're going to learn that sub 3 second time requires the FE4 upgrade to the Z51 Package, as FE4 adds the Performance Traction Management system.

So I haven't read everything on the C8, but what is the base car's 0 - 60 time, 3.8 - 4.0 seconds? For under $70K, mid engine, handles like a, well, a Corvette, I'd take it sans traction management system.