[ep_83]

Originally Posted by jkrig

Try as you may I be willing to bet my left arm you will never ever find a new M4 at any dealership, or even custom ordered, on the planet even 5k near 60k. Hell the current M3 Vert which can still be bought STARTS @ 69k and the coupe was usually about 4k cheaper to start....

I agree that the M4 won't be 60k, which is why I said M3 because you said 12k-15k below the M twins.

[Year's_End]

The badge is boss. The body seems like wasted potential. I thought they would've gone for a more aggressive approach for their entry level coupe. This is even more conservative than the outgoing CTS coupe.

[swanson]

[swanson]

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2015-...#photo-2153671

[Rockette]

Looks better in the real non-studio photos. The studio photos make it look horribly boring and slab-sided.

[CirrusSR22]

Originally Posted by Rockette

Looks better in the real non-studio photos. The studio photos make it look horribly boring and slab-sided.

I agree. Those press photos are not the greatest. Just the opposite of the new CTS actually. The studio shots looked amazing, the in person ones weren't quite as good.

[hellrotm]

Looks a lot better in white.

[F1Venom]

The ATS-V is going to be amazing but I prefer the 4-door though. I doubt the "V" will be more than $65k fully loaded. I'm looking at high $50s/low $60s for the cars on the lot.

[majin ssj eric]

I think it looks fantastic. Conservative? Yes, but in an elegant way. My guess is some of you guys hating on it for being boring were the same ones who panned the CTS coupe for being too out there. I think this is a very good looking car in 2 and 4 door renditions and I can't wait to see what the ATS-V looks like in both versions.

[MikeyV]

Originally Posted by NemesisX

Like, you know "4 door coupes" are in vogue these days. Well, Cadillac just invented the first 2 door sedan

Are you sure about that chief?

[ep_83]

Originally Posted by jkrig

Try as you may I be willing to bet my left arm you will never ever find a new M4 at any dealership, or even custom ordered, on the planet even 5k near 60k. Hell the current M3 Vert which can still be bought STARTS @ 69k and the coupe was usually about 4k cheaper to start....

Prices leaked... 2015 BMW M3 and M4 to Start from $62,000 and $64,200..

• 2015 F80 M3: $62,000
• 2015 F82 M4: $64,200
• Destination and handling $925 (currently - subject to change)

Now about that arm...... lol

[Year's_End]

Originally Posted by majin ssj eric

I think it looks fantastic. Conservative? Yes, but in an elegant way. My guess is some of you guys hating on it for being boring were the same ones who panned the CTS coupe for being too out there. I think this is a very good looking car in 2 and 4 door renditions and I can't wait to see what the ATS-V looks like in both versions.

It just looks like a nose job to me. If they transplanted the grille and bumper over to the sedan, they'd essentially be identical. I'm just surprised that they did so little to the roofline and flanks. No doubt that it's a clean design. You typically see the entry level coupes designed with more risk in a model range.

[NemesisX]

Originally Posted by swanson

These pictures are way better. Car looks like it has much more character in these pictures.

[swanson]

[AlpineSwift]

The new badge would be the first thing to go into a burning oil drum. That's IF I could ever be convinced to get rid of my 3 Series for this.

[PINeely]

WHAT IN THE HELL is that thing in the middle of the grille

[Robert]

So is it true the german no longer have the corner on corner?

[jkrig]

Originally Posted by ep_83

Prices leaked... 2015 BMW M3 and M4 to Start from $62,000 and $64,200..

• 2015 F80 M3: $62,000
• 2015 F82 M4: $64,200
• Destination and handling $925 (currently - subject to change)

Now about that arm...... lol

I hear ya..lol But, I still stand by the fact that you will not find one on a dealers lot nor will any person spending that kinda coin configure one near the starting price much less 60k.....You and I both know how this works, even models at this price get nickel and dimed, 2500 for Prem Package, 3000 for DCT, 1900 premium sound, 500 for heated seats...and those are just things most would want standard in car north of 50k


On a side note ATS-V specs leaked.....gonna get the 3.6TT carried over from the V-Sport...7-speed manual, 8-speed auto, and a DCT....that motor proved pretty potent in the CTS V-sport, mid 4's to 60 and 12.9 in the 1/4, plus the ATS weighs 300lbs less.....the head to head with the M's, and the RC-F should be insteresting

[ep_83]

Originally Posted by jkrig

I hear ya..lol But, I still stand by the fact that you will not find one on a dealers lot nor will any person spending that kinda coin configure one near the starting price much less 60k.....You and I both know how this works, even models at this price get nickel and dimed, 2500 for Prem Package, 3000 for DCT, 1900 premium sound, 500 for heated seats...and those are just things most would want standard in car north of 50k


On a side note ATS-V specs leaked.....gonna get the 3.6TT carried over from the V-Sport...7-speed manual, 8-speed auto, and a DCT....that motor proved pretty potent in the CTS V-sport, mid 4's to 60 and 12.9 in the 1/4, plus the ATS weighs 300lbs less.....the head to head with the M's, and the RC-F should be insteresting

Absolutely. Might set records here for thread replies. I'm really looking forward to it. I hope going to TTV6's pays off for BMW and Caddy because I think that V-8 powered RC-F is going to be pretty nasty.