Formula 1 Gran Premio Santander D'italia 2012

Nang Vann · 09-08-2012, 09:09 AM

Interesting qualy sess....Alonoso will be starting near Maldonado. Could be an interesting first corner for tomorrows race

ptack · 09-08-2012, 05:51 PM

That could indeed be very interesting, but I suspect this time Maldonado will be act like nun at the start.

Funny strategy by Ferarri. Did they get too cute and think they could place their drivers 1, 2by having them work together or did they know Alonso's car had an issue and use him just to try and get one Ferrari on pole at Monza? It's hard to imagine Massa has even the slightest chance of winning - maybe he has a chance at 3rd.

UltimateBMW · 09-08-2012, 06:34 PM

Good qualy, great lap from Hamilton.

A lot of smoke and mirrors from Ferrari over Alonso. Luca di Montezemolo's rage was funny.

Rich_Jenkins · 09-08-2012, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Nang Vann

Interesting qualy sess....Alonoso will be starting near Maldonado. Could be an interesting first corner for tomorrows race

Yep.

gary88 · 09-08-2012, 10:29 PM

Shame Alonso had a problem in Q3.

Also surprising to see both Red Bulls running so slow.

E90SLAM · 09-09-2012, 01:59 AM

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E90SLAM · 09-09-2012, 02:03 AM

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Rich_Jenkins · 09-09-2012, 07:59 AM

^^^ Nice!

...and here we go.

Boostin FD · 09-09-2012, 08:13 AM

Looks like a boring race ;-(

Boostin FD · 09-09-2012, 08:38 AM

What got into Massa... The guy is hauling ass!

Nang Vann · 09-09-2012, 09:27 AM

Phew....what a race! Good stuff from Perez, tough day for Redbull and Button

Elsabor67 · 09-09-2012, 09:44 AM

Incredible run from Perez. Looks like Massa's tires were on their last leg. Red Bull just had no luck today.

johanness · 09-09-2012, 02:05 PM

Ferrari has their hand SO far up the Stewards ass, they respond like their puppet. A drive through penalty for SV? Horse-shit favoritism - seeing a lot of that lately. I guess the point is moot because RBR can't even get his car to the end w/o some mechanical issue or another. Go Perez, Go MSC.

O-cha · 09-09-2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by johanness

Ferrari has their hand SO far up the Stewards ass, they respond like their puppet. A drive through penalty for SV? Horse-shit favoritism - seeing a lot of that lately. I guess the point is moot because RBR can't even get his car to the end w/o some mechanical issue or another. Go Perez, Go MSC.

The penalty was absolutely deserved, the problem is whether ferrari would get the penalty with roles reversed.

And seeing a lot of that LATELY? So you just started watching F1 then? Haha.

johanness · 09-09-2012, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by O-cha

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Originally Posted by johanness

Ferrari has their hand SO far up the Stewards ass, they respond like their puppet. A drive through penalty for SV? Horse-shit favoritism - seeing a lot of that lately. I guess the point is moot because RBR can't even get his car to the end w/o some mechanical issue or another. Go Perez, Go MSC.

The penalty was absolutely deserved, the problem is whether ferrari would get the penalty with roles reversed.

And seeing a lot of that LATELY? So you just started watching F1 then? Haha.

Yeah, too true. I mean it's gotten BLATANT as of late. Hell, Alonso pushed DiResta off the track at Curva Grande on the 1st lap.

UltimateBMW · 09-09-2012, 07:16 PM

Good job by Hamilton controlling the race. Probably the 2nd easiest win of the season to Button's last week. Regarding power of influence between Vettel and Alonso is tough, but I'm sure being in Monza was probably the deciding factor. Great drive from Perez, good start from Massa even though he rolled over once he started hearing "Alonso" on his team radio. Vettel did the best with what he had, but it just gave out on him. Rocky's voice over the radio when he shut it off was very concerned/panicked sounding to me.

Slightly off topic: Has anyone ever noticed when they pull out the 'generic' Santander S trophies? Last year Vettel won a pretty intricate Monza trophy, and this year Hamilton got the generic set of hardware. I wonder what goes into the trophy selection and if the real trophy is still awarded just not displayed publicly...

Vettel's 2011:

Hamilton's 2012:

EINSER M · 09-09-2012, 07:51 PM

who the hell makes those alternators for the RB8? $%$%$ RENAULT?
two DNFs because of this god damn alternator
FML

Echo M3 · 09-09-2012, 11:03 PM

Good race. Great drive by the top 3.

Anyone see Hamilton point to the red on his helmet after the race? What was that about?

MrClean335i · 09-09-2012, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Echo M3

Good race. Great drive by the top 3.

Anyone see Hamilton point to the red on his helmet after the race? What was that about?

He pointed to the Johnny Walker Logo...

gary88 · 09-09-2012, 11:38 PM

Funny how it's basically the 2011 situation between Alonso and Vettel but reversed.

You need to remember though that the rules changed from last year and you have to allow at least a full car width now, which is why Vettel got penalized.

Great drive by Hamilton, always good to see McLaren win. Terrible weekend for Red Bull.

Also what's real exciting is how the championship is tightening up now, 179 points for Alonso, 142 points for Hamilton, 141 for Kimi, and 140 for Vettel.

MrClean335i · 09-10-2012, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by EINSER M

who the hell makes those alternators for the RB8? $%$%$ RENAULT?
two DNFs because of this god damn alternator

Fuck Red Bull

escobar929 · 09-10-2012, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by EINSER M

who the hell makes those alternators for the RB8? $%$%$ RENAULT?
two DNFs because of this god damn alternator
FML

did MW also have an alternator problem? thought he retired cause his tires were shot after spinning out and since he was out of the points, he just retired to save engine life

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Originally Posted by gary88

Funny how it's basically the 2011 situation between Alonso and Vettel but reversed.

You need to remember though that the rules changed from last year and you have to allow at least a full car width now, which is why Vettel got penalized.

Great drive by Hamilton, always good to see McLaren win. Terrible weekend for Red Bull.

Also what's real exciting is how the championship is tightening up now, 179 points for Alonso, 142 points for Hamilton, 141 for Kimi, and 140 for Vettel.

you are right the rules are diff this year but they showed on Sky, the 2011 pass and the 2012 pass, Alonso gave SV plenty of room last year, even though there was no rule to give room. And this year SV completely force Alonso out, so I was happy to see him get a penalty

Great race by Lewis, too bad for Button, he was running strong. Amazing job by Perez too

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Nang Vann Lieutenant Colonel 27 Rep 1,513 Posts Drives: E46 M3, R35 GT-R Join Date: May 2011 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	Interesting qualy sess....Alonoso will be starting near Maldonado. Could be an interesting first corner for tomorrows race __________________ Moving on up!
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09-08-2012, 05:51 PM	#24
ptack Brigadier General 306 Rep 4,483 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: May 2008 Location: NJ iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 135i [6.50]	That could indeed be very interesting, but I suspect this time Maldonado will be act like nun at the start. Funny strategy by Ferarri. Did they get too cute and think they could place their drivers 1, 2by having them work together or did they know Alonso's car had an issue and use him just to try and get one Ferrari on pole at Monza? It's hard to imagine Massa has even the slightest chance of winning - maybe he has a chance at 3rd. __________________ 135i, SGM, Coral, Sport Package, Auto, Premium Hifi, USB/ipod, Apex EC-7s, PPK Stage II
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UltimateBMW Brigadier General 427 Rep 3,287 Posts Drives: MP4 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South iTrader: (0)	Good qualy, great lap from Hamilton. A lot of smoke and mirrors from Ferrari over Alonso. Luca di Montezemolo's rage was funny. __________________
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Nang Vann Lieutenant Colonel 27 Rep 1,513 Posts Drives: E46 M3, R35 GT-R Join Date: May 2011 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	Phew....what a race! Good stuff from Perez, tough day for Redbull and Button __________________ Moving on up!
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Elsabor67 aiming for 450..... 314 Rep 2,910 Posts Drives: Totaled :-( Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Louisiana iTrader: (28) Garage List 2009 135i [10.00]	Incredible run from Perez. Looks like Massa's tires were on their last leg. Red Bull just had no luck today. __________________ Quote from Ezeedee regarding car mods: "you're only done when you sell the car "
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09-09-2012, 07:16 PM	#38
UltimateBMW Brigadier General 427 Rep 3,287 Posts Drives: MP4 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South iTrader: (0)	Good job by Hamilton controlling the race. Probably the 2nd easiest win of the season to Button's last week. Regarding power of influence between Vettel and Alonso is tough, but I'm sure being in Monza was probably the deciding factor. Great drive from Perez, good start from Massa even though he rolled over once he started hearing "Alonso" on his team radio. Vettel did the best with what he had, but it just gave out on him. Rocky's voice over the radio when he shut it off was very concerned/panicked sounding to me. Slightly off topic: Has anyone ever noticed when they pull out the 'generic' Santander S trophies? Last year Vettel won a pretty intricate Monza trophy, and this year Hamilton got the generic set of hardware. I wonder what goes into the trophy selection and if the real trophy is still awarded just not displayed publicly... Vettel's 2011: Hamilton's 2012: __________________ Last edited by UltimateBMW; 09-09-2012 at 07:23 PM..
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Echo M3 Major 129 Rep 1,432 Posts Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: NY iTrader: (0)	Good race. Great drive by the top 3. Anyone see Hamilton point to the red on his helmet after the race? What was that about?
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gary88 Ikea enthusiast 344 Rep 8,140 Posts Drives: '07 E92 335i Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Chicago, IL iTrader: (3) Garage List 2007 E92 335i [7.96]	Funny how it's basically the 2011 situation between Alonso and Vettel but reversed. You need to remember though that the rules changed from last year and you have to allow at least a full car width now, which is why Vettel got penalized. Great drive by Hamilton, always good to see McLaren win. Terrible weekend for Red Bull. Also what's real exciting is how the championship is tightening up now, 179 points for Alonso, 142 points for Hamilton, 141 for Kimi, and 140 for Vettel. __________________ garyhebdingjr.com \| flickr \| Instagram
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