[younghov85]

i filled up today and my tank always last 10 days so I wont be filling up either!!

[SES_D]

Originally Posted by MORRAlloys

How about NOT filling up at BP, Amoco, Chevron, Texaco, Exxon/Mobil for the whole month of May? Just fill up at Shell. That might benefit one company at a very large scale, but the others are not going to sit there and watch.

I mean "The war caused the price of oil to skyrocket", however, in 2006 ALL major Oil companies posted record breaking profits? I call BS.

WHAT? SHELL is the pricest gas out there. DAMN, hell no!

[calvino]

Originally Posted by Socom

I'm sorry, but people who buy a $40k+ auto have no right to complain about the price of gas. We already have some of the lowest prices for gasoline in the modern world, to complain about an extra $20/mo in gas is disengenious.

For those of you who live in Calif. Blame your gov't officials for their boutique gas which is only made/sold in california.

I agree if we want to protest we should sell our Bimmers and get hybrids

now we don't have the lowest prices for gas, Venezuela were I'm originally from the gas is $0.12 per gallon.

[DPritchett]

One day won't make a difference -- unless maybe you convince everyone not to drive at all. Otherwise all you are doing is shifting the demand forwards or backwards.

The math in email that is promoting the boycott is also seriously flawed. There are way more internet user in the US than they assume, but not everyone that drives fills up every day. Because the price we pay for gas includes federal and state taxes, a cut for the station, the refiner, etc, the impact on oil company profits is far less than is suggested.

[BavDom]

everyone sucks, instead of coming up with iffs is it so hard to at least try and help out with what other people are trying to do? The point is to get a message across.

[schneid4323]

Seems like the creator of this thread needs to take an economics class.....

As I posted on facebook...
Not buying gas for a day would increase the demand which will increase the price
You would compensate by buying gas the day before or the day after which will most likely lead to you buying excess gas the day before so you dont have an issue
The "Big oil Company" wont lose any money seeing as you are giving them a reason to inflate prices even more !!!!!!

So basically, this whole schinanigan ends up raising gas prices, which is exactly what this is to put an end to right?

Stop complaining, gas in europe is more expensive, I find it funny that usually the enviroment concious people bitch about gas prices..... Simple solution, make gas increddibly expensive so it is exclusive to the wealthy and pulic transportation is more utilized.

[RobindaE46]

Originally Posted by schneid4323

Seems like the creator of this thread needs to take an economics class.....

As I posted on facebook...
Not buying gas for a day would increase the demand which will increase the price
You would compensate by buying gas the day before or the day after which will most likely lead to you buying excess gas the day before so you dont have an issue
The "Big oil Company" wont lose any money seeing as you are giving them a reason to inflate prices even more !!!!!!

So basically, this whole schinanigan ends up raising gas prices, which is exactly what this is to put an end to right?

Stop complaining, gas in europe is more expensive, I find it funny that usually the enviroment concious people bitch about gas prices..... Simple solution, make gas increddibly expensive so it is exclusive to the wealthy and pulic transportation is more utilized.

Good Post!

[schneid4323]

Originally Posted by Bavariansdom

everyone sucks, instead of coming up with iffs is it so hard to at least try and help out with what other people are trying to do? The point is to get a message across.

Why would I do something that is counter productive..... you are inevitably giving gas companies an excuse to inflate prices, and doing so you are raising gas prices to a ridiculous high.

Ill let you tell me what you get from this demand chart



You create a consumer surplus, because on the 16th you are gonna need gas, and since most likely you will have enough for a couple of days you have one that lasts for about a week. THANKS FOR RAISING GAS PRICES FOR EVERYONE!!!!!!! This is the most retarded way to lower gas prices any hippi has ever come up with.

[Boooost]

Let's all just buy sport bikes... we'll get places faster and use less gas. I propose an "everyone ride a 1000rr day" on the 20th.

[schneid4323]

Wow i just read through everyones posts..... if you are honestly thinking about this you need to use your head for the first time ever..... Im disappointed in anyone who even attempts to argue that this is productive, hell if I was the CEO of Shell i would get on this thread on 500+ names to tell yall to do it, reason being you give a reson for inflation which becomes an excuse for over inflating gas prices. Do you really think gas prices needed to go up in katrina? Why would they go up if saudia arabia produces 7 times the amount of gas, in one day, that we have in all of our national reserve? No. (BTW clinton broke into the reserves and it did nothing, why did bush do this, well guess which family owns the majority of shares in Exxon Mobil) Gas companies love LOVE LOVE!!!! excuses and you are giving them everything the need.

Please use your head before you do something stupid, it honestly pisses me off to think that yall would follow some dumb protest some hippi came up with that doesnt make an sense, please post retracting your commitment to this horrible ideal or be forever known as the guy that did something stupid and ended up hurting everyone in the process.....

[just4kickz]

Originally Posted by Boooost

Let's all just buy sport bikes... we'll get places faster and use less gas. I propose an "everyone ride a 1000rr day" on the 20th.

i would die.

[Boooost]

Originally Posted by just4kickz

i would die.

Evolution?

Those bikes are baaaaad! Have you ever ridden one?

[schneid4323]

Could we keep this post on topic so people read what I posted above.

I am trying to make a difference, by making our nation not seem like a bunch of idiots that have freedom of speech but dont deserve it because they cant think before they act.

[just4kickz]

Originally Posted by Boooost

Evolution?

Those bikes are baaaaad! Have you ever ridden one?

no i'm saying... somebody would hit me... and i would eat cement or i would accidentally fall and also eat cement.

[schneid4323]

Originally Posted by just4kickz

no i'm saying... somebody would hit me... and i would eat cement or i would accidentally fall and also eat cement.

Im gonna cry because you are taking up space from my attempt to save our nation

[ward]

you'd be surprised, a high performance bike could get LESS mpg than a E90 if the bike was being pushed real hard.

I get about 40 mpg on my SV, and there are much more powerful bikes than that.

Scheid has some great points!!

[calvino]

O.K Scheid you are good in economics

so what is your solution to lower the gas prices & end poverty ???

[schneid4323]

Originally Posted by calvino

O.K Scheid you are good in economics

so what is your solution to lower the gas prices & end poverty ???

Get a president in office that looks at situations realistically.... Nothing against Bush, he is helping me out TONS, but its not the nation as a whole he has in mind. I mean honestly its just inflation because people need gas like they need water and there isnt enough producers to create a producer surplus (Small Gas Companies? lol oxymoron). This is one of thoose things that we just have to absorb or become president to change, neither party has a solution or even wants to help this issue, its making them money.

[calvino]

Originally Posted by schneid4323

Get a president in office that looks at situations realistically.... Nothing against Bush, he is helping me out TONS, but its not the nation as a whole he has in mind. I mean honestly its just inflation because people need gas like they need water and there isnt enough producers to create a producer surplus (Small Gas Companies? lol oxymoron). This is one of thoose things that we just have to absorb or become president to change, neither party has a solution or even wants to help this issue, its making them money.

WOW touche

VOTE for Schneid

[toofasttooslow]

"SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Crude futures fell Monday to close at their lowest level in almost seven weeks, tallying a loss of more than 7% during a losing streak that's spanned six sessions. " (http://www.marketwatch.com/news/stor...futures+movers)


The issues that are directly attributable to soaring gas prices are:

1)several refineries have gone offline at the same time(surreptitious in my opinion)
2)a major pipeline disruption (closure)
3)concerns over foreign policy
4)The approaching Summer driving season

All of these factors have induced futures profit takers into driving gas prices through the roof. Yes there is demand, but step back for a moment. If demand has not exceeded extraordinarily (which has been shown in various economic reports)then supply must have decreased in order to warrant the rising prices. To me it's very odd why several oil companies are *now* finding faults in their pipelines, or needing emergency maintenence on their refinery rigs all at about the same time. I'm not one for conspiracy theories but this one definitely has the mark of pure bullshit.


As for May 15th; one day won't do any good. The oil companies will just reap the profits from the previous/post couple of days. Instead of fighting a war we cannot win we can pick our battles to win.We as consumers need to send a message that we set the market price and not the oil cartels. We need to plan our trips better and change our driving habits.

I remember 2005 when the gas prices soared like they are doing today. They blamed it on Katrina and refineries and blah blah blah. It was in all actuality the oil cartels engineering deflated supply to increase profits.

Something happened that year though. Consumers stopped driving as much. They planned their trips better and started thinking of oil as a limited commododity and not as an unlmited resource. What happened when the consumers started decreasing demands? The oil companies immediately started lowering gas prices.

In a macro economy of scale the timeframe in which the gas prices would have needed to come to equilibrium would have been months. In that case, the prices came down almost immediately. Why? I think we all know the reason to that one.

Bottom line is - save the electrons in forwarding the May 15th chain mails and start telling people to drive responsibly all the time. Cut down on unneeded trips to the mall, grocery stores, etc. Take mass transit, carpool. It takes very little from each of us to induce change. I for one have subscribed to this theory and have sold my gas guzzling truck and have sought out a more economical car (e92 335) . Remember, we (consumers) are the boss of the global economy so let's start acting like it.

[schneid4323]

Originally Posted by gum5h03

"SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Crude futures fell Monday to close at their lowest level in almost seven weeks, tallying a loss of more than 7% during a losing streak that's spanned six sessions. " (http://www.marketwatch.com/news/stor...futures+movers)


The issues that are directly attributable to soaring gas prices are:

1)several refineries have gone offline at the same time(surreptitious in my opinion)
2)a major pipeline disruption (closure)
3)concerns over foreign policy
4)The approaching Summer driving season

All of these factors have induced futures profit takers into driving gas prices through the roof. Yes there is demand, but step back for a moment. If demand has not exceeded extraordinarily (which has been shown in various economic reports)then supply must have decreased in order to warrant the rising prices. To me it's very odd why several oil companies are *now* finding faults in their pipelines, or needing emergency maintenence on their refinery rigs all at about the same time. I'm not one for conspiracy theories but this one definitely has the mark of pure bullshit.


As for May 15th; one day won't do any good. The oil companies will just reap the profits from the previous/post couple of days. Instead of fighting a war we cannot win we can pick our battles to win.We as consumers need to send a message that we set the market price and not the oil cartels. We need to plan our trips better and change our driving habits.

I remember 2005 when the gas prices soared like they are doing today. They blamed it on Katrina and refineries and blah blah blah. It was in all actuality the oil cartels engineering deflated supply to increase profits.

Something happened that year though. Consumers stopped driving as much. They planned their trips better and started thinking of oil as a limited commododity and not as an unlmited resource. What happened when the consumers started decreasing demands? The oil companies immediately started lowering gas prices.

In a macro economy of scale the timeframe in which the gas prices would have needed to come to equilibrium would have been months. In that case, the prices came down almost immediately. Why? I think we all know the reason to that one.

Bottom line is - save the electrons in forwarding the May 15th chain mails and start telling people to drive responsibly all the time. Cut down on unneeded trips to the mall, grocery stores, etc. Take mass transit, carpool. It takes very little from each of us to induce change. I for one have subscribed to this theory and have sold my gas guzzling truck and have sought out a more economical car (e92 335) . Remember, we (consumers) are the boss of the global economy so let's start acting like it.

The problem is we arent the boss in this situation, you gotta understand. We need gas period end of story. Without appropriate comeptition inflation will occur due to the consumer surplus, there is not a good answer to lowering gas prices. Driving less, driving a car that gets better millage may be the answer for yourself but it over all wont lower gas prices, you have to look at this from the right standpoint. With gas there is some cause and effect but its mainly hype, they would love to make you think that every little thing is goign to affect prices when its not that simple. You can excuse increases in pricing in many ways, but part of the way to keep you "addicted" to gas is to fluctuate the pricing so they can overall profit more. If you want a solution to this problem, go to the source, run for president and make the logic behind the issue public, don't be moronic and stop buying gas for a day.

[ward]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18492185/

here's an article on exactly why a boycott is stupid