[Yearofthe1]

Originally Posted by Sara504

Im a female living by myself. I've had a devastating experience in 2009 and I wont risk a repeat of anyone grabbing me again. I park in the very last spot at work and I'm walking to my car alone at 11pm at night in parking lot that's not well lit. I'm small and just about anyone can overpower me if they really want to.

Dayum, well then I don't blame you for packing. Do you open carry now? That should be a nice deterrent.

[MrRoboto]

Originally Posted by Sara504

Im a female living by myself. I've had a devastating experience in 2009 and I wont risk a repeat of anyone grabbing me again. I park in the very last spot at work and I'm walking to my car alone at 11pm at night in parking lot that's not well lit. That's my reason.

Is their not security or a colleague that can walk you to your car? Perhaps find a better place to park? Isn't the idea is to prevent an incident before it happens? What if the other guy has a gun as well?

How can a gun be a deterrent unless you openly carry it?

[E90 87ss]

word I agree, the legal consequences aren't worth it. Basically someone has to be pointing a gun at you and there has to be an imminent threat in order for you to use one and not get charged with something. Or there has to be more than one person threatening your life. Same applies to any other weapon. A bottle of pepper spray is usually what I carry; I can fight too, but am careful not to go overboard, KO someone, or break an arm and get assault charges in a self defense situations. I live in not such a great area or am in out of the hood, so best thing to do is basically be aware of your surroundings. I've been jumped getting out of my car and nearly beat someone with a metal rod, but decided to walk away from the situation. Your goal is either get away or stop the person from hurting you not killing or assaulting them unless you want to end up in court or jail even if the person attacking you deserves it.

[NYC6]

Heres my "Persuader" that sometimes tags along in the Vette and 135. Sig 228 with 13 Rounds of 124gn Corbons.

[REVNU]

^ Nice Sig! I have a couple myself.

Here's my P229 .40cal. Unfortunately I can't carry it in CA...


15 yards/60 rounds up top - 25 yards/20 rounds down low

[silvergray545]

Originally Posted by Aonarch

Nice! I'm a big AR fan myself!

It's a mid length 16" I should have went with the 20" but I didn't know shit about ARs when I ordered it lol. The scope is gone, looking for something a bit more tactical. Quadrail and bipod soon to come.

[REVNU]

Originally Posted by silvergray545

Nice! I'm a big AR fan myself!
The scope is gone, looking for something a bit more tactical. Quadrail and bipod soon to come.

Go for an Eotech Holographic Sight or ACOG Scope. I love shooting with the Eotech.

[Inspired]

Originally Posted by Sara504

Im a female living by myself. I've had a devastating experience in 2009 and I wont risk a repeat of anyone grabbing me again. I park in the very last spot at work and I'm walking to my car alone at 11pm at night in parking lot that's not well lit. I'm small and just about anyone can overpower me if they really want to.

Isn't it common sense to not park at the last spot then?


I got this..

[len56]

Originally Posted by E90 87ss

word I agree, the legal consequences aren't worth it. Basically someone has to be pointing a gun at you and there has to be an imminent threat in order for you to use one and not get charged with something. Or there has to be more than one person threatening your life. Same applies to any other weapon. A bottle of pepper spray is usually what I carry; I can fight too, but am careful not to go overboard, KO someone, or break an arm and get assault charges in a self defense situations. I live in not such a great area or am in out of the hood, so best thing to do is basically be aware of your surroundings. I've been jumped getting out of my car and nearly beat someone with a metal rod, but decided to walk away from the situation. Your goal is either get away or stop the person from hurting you not killing or assaulting them unless you want to end up in court or jail even if the person attacking you deserves it.

you shouldn't get charged for self defense, thats BS. as long as you can some how prove your story

[Sara]

Originally Posted by twinturbo335

Isn't it common sense to not park at the last spot then?


I got this..

My company would rather employees park in the back so clients can park up front.

[REVNU]

I'd rather be alive and have to deal with legal issues than DEAD. So if someone deserves to get shot, they're going to get it. I'll worry with the legal ramifications later.

When I say "deserves", they will be threatening bodily harm, with some sort of weapon or anything that makes me feel threatened for my life. I'm not going to shoot someone because I accidentally cut them off and now they want to have words on the side of the road. With owning/carrying a weapon comes responsibility. Some people are irresponsible, but MOST people who carry (legally) are responsible citizens.

"Better to have and not need, than need and not have."

[Sara]

Originally Posted by REVNU

"Better to have and not need, than need and not have."

+1

[CollinsE90]

Originally Posted by Sara504

+1

sara if i were you id be more worried about rape than death, if i were a chick i would definitely carry a gun...im going to get one for the instance you think will never happen

[silvergray545]

Originally Posted by REVNU

Go for an Eotech Holographic Sight or ACOG Scope. I love shooting with the Eotech.

I like the EOTechs. I might go with one of those. The ACOGs are sweet but a little too pricey for me.

[E90 87ss]

Originally Posted by len56

you shouldn't get charged for self defense, thats BS. as long as you can some how prove your story

Right, but there is a legal line that is no longer considered self defense, i.e., someone punches and you smash their jaw in. Or someone grabs you, verbally threatens you with no weapon and you stab them. You are going to get charges pressed against you. I don't do international law, but that's how it is here... A friend of mine was involved in an altercation and was stabbed, he stabbed that person back and ended facing 6 months in jail and assault with a deadly weapon charge even though he was attacked first, self defense situation. It sounds like crap, but sometimes it's better to not to fight back unless they are continually attacking you. Like in my friends case the person didn't continue to stab him or harm him and the imminent threat was no longer present, so stabbing the guy was no longer self defense.

Originally Posted by REVNU

I'd rather be alive and have to deal with legal issues than DEAD. So if someone deserves to get shot, they're going to get it. I'll worry with the legal ramifications later.

When I say "deserves", they will be threatening bodily harm, with some sort of weapon or anything that makes me feel threatened for my life. I'm not going to shoot someone because I accidentally cut them off and now they want to have words on the side of the road. With owning/carrying a weapon comes responsibility. Some people are irresponsible, but MOST people who carry (legally) are responsible citizens.

"Better to have and not need, than need and not have."

Definitely agree, basically just saying you don't need a S&W 500 to handle the situation, maybe a little .22 in the leg or arm. It also raises the threat level if you draw a weapon, because most criminals carrying are ready to use if you have one. If you draw a weapon on a person and they continue to walk towards with no weapon you can't shoot them without legal consequences. Don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but learning how to disarm, run, shoot non vital body parts, and use non-lethal weapons is much better than carrying an array of tire irons, guns or knives aimed to kill or hurt people. I know you may worry about the legal consequences later and be happy that you have your life, but you don't want the criminal who attacked you to walk away with your house, car, and everything you own because you took unnecessary actions against them. I'm just saying be smart out there, it's self defense not revenge for being attacked.

[lux.sh]

I thouoght this was a car-weapon thread. Who the hell carries a sub machine gun in the vehicle?

A police baton is all you need unless you have no self-defense training.

[REVNU]

Originally Posted by E90 87ss

Definitely agree, basically just saying you don't need a S&W 500 to handle the situation, maybe a little .22 in the leg or arm. It also raises the threat level if you draw a weapon, because most criminals carrying are ready to use if you have one. If you draw a weapon on a person and they continue to walk towards with no weapon you can't shoot them without legal consequences. Don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but learning how to disarm, run, shoot non vital body parts, and use non-lethal weapons is much better than carrying an array of tire irons, guns or knives aimed to kill or hurt people. I know you may worry about the legal consequences later and be happy that you have your life, but you don't want the criminal who attacked you to walk away with your house, car, and everything you own because you took unnecessary actions against them. I'm just saying be smart out there, it's self defense not revenge for being attacked.

I'll have to disagree with you on the shooting to wound. If I pull out a gun I'm going to kill someone with it, PERIOD. That's what guns are for, not to scare, intimidate, or wound. If I/you pull out a gun you better be damn well ready to use it (kill someone). Do i WANT to kill someone? Hell no! I will do everything in my power to not have to kill/shoot someone. If they "deserve" to be shot, I'm killing them though, because I fear for my family's life or my own.

An attacker will never walk away with anything I own if they are trying to take anything of mine (life, home robbery/invasion, etc) by force (weapon)... because they'll be dead.

I've been in quite a few situations where I could have used a firearm to subdue, intimidate, etc. a person, but they didn't pose a threat (no weapon) to my life or well being. So they got stomped instead. Again, RESPONSIBILITY is the key here.

Unfortunately these debates are never ending. Different people have different outlooks on what is excessive and what is not.

"The dead only know one thing. It is better to be alive." - Private Joker

[REVNU]

Originally Posted by lux.sh

A police baton is all you need unless you have no self-defense training.

Unless said attacker is pointing/shooting a gun at you. I'm pretty sure no one is good enough to block bullets with police batons. At least not yet...

[REVNU]

Sorry OP. I never did answer the topic question. Since I'm in Kaliforniastan I can't CCW. I coach baseball year round so I always have a nice heavy baseball bat in my car, with a ball and glove of course.

[Elie335]

MP5HK


Got Glock 17 located behind the passenger seat, Beretta 92FS at office, M4A1 at home, Browning High Power at home and a bit more.

[MrRoboto]

Originally Posted by REVNU

I'll have to disagree with you on the shooting to wound. If I pull out a gun I'm going to kill someone with it, PERIOD. That's what guns are for, not to scare, intimidate, or wound. If I/you pull out a gun you better be damn well ready to use it (kill someone). Do i WANT to kill someone? Hell no! I will do everything in my power to not have to kill/shoot someone. If they "deserve" to be shot, I'm killing them though, because I fear for my family's life or my own.

An attacker will never walk away with anything I own if they are trying to take anything of mine (life, home robbery/invasion, etc) by force (weapon)... because they'll be dead.

I've been in quite a few situations where I could have used a firearm to subdue, intimidate, etc. a person, but they didn't pose a threat (no weapon) to my life or well being. So they got stomped instead. Again, RESPONSIBILITY is the key here.

Unfortunately these debates are never ending. Different people have different outlooks on what is excessive and what is not.

"The dead only know one thing. It is better to be alive." - Private Joker

So someone mugs you for your wallet, you would rather kill him then hand over the cash? WOW.

[E90 87ss]

well i'm just explaining from a legal perspective and not my personal opinion. If someone wants my car or property they can have it, that's what insurance is for. If someone is threatening my life, i'm going to defend myself not assault or murder them. If you want to waste time and money in court and face the possibility of having a b/f that's on you.