[HermesRider]

Originally Posted by VTECaddict

for things like speeding, yes there is leeway and judgment on the cop's part. they have to account for variability in the car's speedometer, radar gun accuracy, and "safe" speed according to current weather/traffic/road conditions. lots of variables involved.

failing yield to a pedestrian is pretty black or white. you can't almost fail to yield. there's no variability in the amount you can yield. either you yielded or you didnt.

either you had the license plate mounted on the front or you didnt. now, tint is a pure judgment call by the cop, but ANY tint on front windows is illegal all day everyday according to CA law.

now, would it have been nice for the cop to just give a warning? sure. but you cant go around expecting warnings all the time or calling cops stupid for rightfully doing their job. you gotta pay to play. if you dont want to pay, then dont do anything illegal. especially now that everyone including the government is tight on money, you should really watch for backs because they will be looking out for all the little things to give out more tickets.

Extremely well stated. Speed is a prima facie interpretation, the others that OP was busted for were clear violations like you state. Hence little sympathy from the LEO and myself.

[MCMLXXXIX]

the OP just had a rough moment, im sure he was just pissed off just like any of us would be

[Evil E90]

Sorry to hear you got busted but all you can do is suck it up and put the front plate back on and take the tint off your front windows. Then take the plate back off and re tint the fronts after you get it signed off. I have gotten pulled over with every car I have owned in the past and it's a matter of time before they get me with my front plate- less BMW. It's the price we pay for things we do to ours cars that we know are illegal. It's like California earthquakes....you don't really think about them until they happen.

[TommyK]

wow this is nuts, i mean we are a small group of drivers, in califonia, like you just wonder how many others are like us. i saw a 328 get rolled tonight for speeding up to make it through a yellow, prob going about 60 mph in a 50 zone in irvine.

i just got my fine for making a illegal left hand turn inside my college, $202 but then traffic school knocked it up to $284

[Tonybest]

Originally Posted by montreal red

damn... i'd love to get one of those concealed handgun licenses... haha ... we cant even have any guns here ... meh.

what? why would you want a gun? I'm very content that we can't carry weapons.

[SonicGerm]

Really? The cop is stupid? What the hell do we pay them for if not to pull over jack asses like you?

[MorpheIS]

Damn. The influx of dumbass postings lately is leading me to believe that perhaps the old adage is true. BMW drivers really are idiotic pricks.

[John 070]

Originally Posted by HermesRider

Aren't those things against the law? Cop doesn't sound too stupid to me.

I was gonna say the same thing. It's our society today, not just people on forums, but even doctors. Part of training nowadays is to deny. I suppose if done often enough, offenders actually believe it is someone else's fault for their activity.

Hey, I was pulled over for 52 in a 25, that's some serious points. Stupid me, not stupid cop. The cop let me off. That in no way changes the stupidity factor, that was stupid me.

How dumb would you have to be in California or Ontario to not yield to a pedestrian?

[John 070]

Originally Posted by MorpheIS

Damn. The influx of dumbass postings lately is leading me to believe that perhaps the old adage is true. BMW drivers really are idiotic pricks.

Exactly. I was in a hurry and sped 52 in a 25. Do you want your kids playing in the street when I go by at 52? Of course not. And so I was pulled over. WTF is so hard nowadays for people to admit they did wrong? I sold RIMM at 58.85 and it cost me over 8500 in missed money in one month. I was stupid to sell when I did, I should have listed to Cramer. hahahahaha

In the long-run, denying wrongdoing over and over when in fact someone did something wrong is going to hurt that person. They'll never actually learn anything or grow.

I don't speed through 25 mph residential zones anymore, no joke. So the cop did me two favors, he let me go without a summons, and he taught me a lesson. He did his job and I modified my behavior.

[ukthunderace]

Originally Posted by TommyK

wow this is nuts, i mean we are a small group of drivers, in califonia, like you just wonder how many others are like us. i saw a 328 get rolled tonight for speeding up to make it through a yellow, prob going about 60 mph in a 50 zone in irvine.

i just got my fine for making a illegal left hand turn inside my college, $202 but then traffic school knocked it up to $284

Proof that people just don't get it.
You broke the law! You got a ticket!
Break Law = Get Ticket. See how easy that works?
Here's another one:
Don't Break Law=Don't Get Ticket. It's almost like, I dunno, common sense or something.

[lauer87]

Stupid you, not stupid cops.

[ThorsHammer]

Originally Posted by Tonybest

what? why would you want a gun? I'm very content that we can't carry weapons.

Wow.

So you are content to have a lawbreaking, crackhead, dope-dealing criminal... who DOESN'T obey the law... run around doing harm to people at will? He has no fear of you protecting yourself! What are you going to do, negotiate with him? Say a prayer? Light some candles and sing "We Are the World"? I can't stand complacent lackeys like you.

In my great country and state, a car jacker has to think twice before he walks up and tries to steal my car. A burglar has to wonder if that TV he wants to break into my house and steal is worth taking an eternal dirt nap. And most importantly, a rapist/murdered has to wonder if the lady walking down the dark alley is packing. It's just as likely that the 65 year-old granny or the 21 year-old college student is licensed to carry, so these fuckers have to take a risk where the calculus yields a MUCH greater threat: "Do I want to die?" That's what they have to ask themselves.

Gun-free zones are nothing but a neon sign, inviting criminals to do their bidding at will. Call 911 and report that someone is in your house with a gun to your head, and then order a pizza. See who arrives first. Every location that has licensed concealed-carry laws have seen dramatic decreases in violent crimes. And no, there aren't shoot-outs in the streets. It's not the wild-west. The government does a good job of screening applicants, doing FBI background checks, and requiring training.

And that's just the personal protection angle. What's gonna happen when some other country finally decides to invade Canada? The Mounties to save the day? Americans to the rescue? Think about it. There very well could come a time when your nation's very survival depends on the citizens rising up and defending your flag. Seems far-fetched? Riiiight.

Don't want a firearm? Then don't get one. If that makes you sleep better at night, then great. But don't rob me of my right to protect and defend myself, my family, my property, and others! Doing so, in my book, is criminal itself. It's aiding and abetting the bad guys by making it easier for them to do their bidding.

I thank God every day I don't live in your commie/socialistic society.

[RavenE90]

wow they give tickets for front tint...no front plates, and failing to yield to a pedestrian in california these days...wow I never knew they did that........when did they ever start this?....damm those cops OP.....seriously suck it up, nut it up, and take responsiblity for your own actions (all i'm saying)

[noro]

Hey OP, based on your other thread and this one I am going to go ahead and say it, you are a jackass...

... and a big pussy...

Flame suit on, moderators I am sorry.

[Tonybest]

Originally Posted by ThorsHammer

Wow.

So you are content to have a lawbreaking, crackhead, dope-dealing criminal... who DOESN'T obey the law... run around doing harm to people at will? He has no fear of you protecting yourself! What are you going to do, negotiate with him? Say a prayer? Light some candles and sing "We Are the World"? I can't stand complacent lackeys like you.

In my great country and state, a car jacker has to think twice before he walks up and tries to steal my car. A burglar has to wonder if that TV he wants to break into my house and steal is worth taking an eternal dirt nap. And most importantly, a rapist/murdered has to wonder if the lady walking down the dark alley is packing. It's just as likely that the 65 year-old granny or the 21 year-old college student is licensed to carry, so these fuckers have to take a risk where the calculus yields a MUCH greater threat: "Do I want to die?" That's what they have to ask themselves.

Gun-free zones are nothing but a neon sign, inviting criminals to do their bidding at will. Call 911 and report that someone is in your house with a gun to your head, and then order a pizza. See who arrives first. Every location that has licensed concealed-carry laws have seen dramatic decreases in violent crimes. And no, there aren't shoot-outs in the streets. It's not the wild-west. The government does a good job of screening applicants, doing FBI background checks, and requiring training.

And that's just the personal protection angle. What's gonna happen when some other country finally decides to invade Canada? The Mounties to save the day? Americans to the rescue? Think about it. There very well could come a time when your nation's very survival depends on the citizens rising up and defending your flag. Seems far-fetched? Riiiight.

Don't want a firearm? Then don't get one. If that makes you sleep better at night, then great. But don't rob me of my right to protect and defend myself, my family, my property, and others! Doing so, in my book, is criminal itself. It's aiding and abetting the bad guys by making it easier for them to do their bidding.

I thank God every day I don't live in your commie/socialistic society.

Wow! I don't think I attacked your way of life at all. I just pointed out that in my world I don't want people to have easy access to arms. That's all.

But your world is very different than mine.

And I won't debate you on the subject. There is no point since we live in different worlds. I'll debate someone that lives in my community and lives with no fear of his neighbour. Which is why I answered someone from my parts.

You seem to have your set ideas (as do I) on the subject. Two different worlds, that's all.

Your criminals must think twice before doing harm as you say, yet crime rates per capita is way higher in your great country than in our "commie/socialistic" society as you so well put it.

[Year's_End]

why does it take 20 people to say the same thing?

i'd be pissed if i was in the op's situation as well. the cop could've given you some slack, sounds like minor nitpicking.

[jewishcubbiesfan]

Originally Posted by Tonybest

Wow! I don't think I attacked your way of life at all. I just pointed out that in my world I don't want people to have easy access to arms. That's all.

But your world is very different than mine.

And I won't debate you on the subject. There is no point since we live in different worlds. I'll debate someone that lives in my community and lives with no fear of his neighbour. Which is why I answered someone from my parts.

You seem to have your set ideas (as do I) on the subject. Two different worlds, that's all.

Your criminals must think twice before doing harm as you say, yet crime rates per capita is way higher in your great country than in our "commie/socialistic" society as you so well put it.

and the great debate begins!!......

[John 070]

Originally Posted by ThorsHammer

Wow.

So you are content to have a lawbreaking, crackhead, dope-dealing criminal... who DOESN'T obey the law... run around doing harm to people at will? He has no fear of you protecting yourself! What are you going to do, negotiate with him? Say a prayer? Light some candles and sing "We Are the World"? I can't stand complacent lackeys like you.

In my great country and state, a car jacker has to think twice before he walks up and tries to steal my car. A burglar has to wonder if that TV he wants to break into my house and steal is worth taking an eternal dirt nap. And most importantly, a rapist/murdered has to wonder if the lady walking down the dark alley is packing. It's just as likely that the 65 year-old granny or the 21 year-old college student is licensed to carry, so these fuckers have to take a risk where the calculus yields a MUCH greater threat: "Do I want to die?" That's what they have to ask themselves.

Gun-free zones are nothing but a neon sign, inviting criminals to do their bidding at will. Call 911 and report that someone is in your house with a gun to your head, and then order a pizza. See who arrives first. Every location that has licensed concealed-carry laws have seen dramatic decreases in violent crimes. And no, there aren't shoot-outs in the streets. It's not the wild-west. The government does a good job of screening applicants, doing FBI background checks, and requiring training.

And that's just the personal protection angle. What's gonna happen when some other country finally decides to invade Canada? The Mounties to save the day? Americans to the rescue? Think about it. There very well could come a time when your nation's very survival depends on the citizens rising up and defending your flag. Seems far-fetched? Riiiight.

Don't want a firearm? Then don't get one. If that makes you sleep better at night, then great. But don't rob me of my right to protect and defend myself, my family, my property, and others! Doing so, in my book, is criminal itself. It's aiding and abetting the bad guys by making it easier for them to do their bidding.

I thank God every day I don't live in your commie/socialistic society.

To all this rhetoric, I would ask the poster, when was the last time you were mugged? Did you just get done watching Dirty Harry on your Blueray in 7.1 or something?

I got jumped by 4 dudes on the NYC subway only 2 years ago. I'm glad I wasn't armed, nor were they, because if it were me and not them, I have no doubt all 4 of them would be dead. The irony in our society is that criminals have a full set of rights as do we.

I'm glad that I had to rely on my fists, because I'll say it again. All that hero c*** you hear about NYC is just Hollywood $$$. A train full of Wall Streeters did nothing to assist me, they were too busy checking emails and stock prices on their BlackBerrys. At the end of the day, my fists were only dangerous enough to get them to run as the train conductor sounded the siren. That f***** gun in the glove sh** is what we call BS.

Who knows, maybe I would buy a handgun if it were allowed where I live, I doubt it. The law makes it impossible and I don't spend my time debating what is not possible.

[bobr2001]

Oh Shit ... so where's the

[Herknav]

stupid cops

stupid teachers

stupid judges

stupid soldiers
stupid airmen
stupid marines
stupid sailors

stupid everyone that maintains order in our society.... we would be so much better if they would just let us all do what we wanted...

[jdogg2000]

Don't mean to fan the flames, but I agree with the OP to a certain degree. I think the cop is indeed just doing his job and can't be faulted. On the other hand, a lot of people here are saying "its the law" and so we should just accept it. Just because its a law doesn't mean its a good law. I think we'd all agree that not yielding to pedestrians is dangerous, as is drunk driving. Is me not having the front plate on my car, however, such a horrible crime? I mounted a front plate on my last two 3-series, but when I got my M3 I actually took the plate off because it just looks so awful on the front and I didn't pay that much money to have a car I wasn't completely happy with. No ticket yet here in Cali, knock on wood...

[ragingclue]

I don't know what to say that hasn't been said.

I'm tired of the "stupid pigs" posts on here. I'd understand if you were just minding your own business, not knowingly breaking the law, and were harrassed by a LEO for one reason or another, but to rag on them for doing what WE PAY THEM TO DO.... Unbelievable. Unsafe right turn and failure to yield to a pedestrian, eh? That sure sounds minor. Good way to get your car keyed and bashed in....

I know every time I speed. Every time. And if I get pulled over, I know I can be polite, courteous, and cooperative to try to convince the cop to let me off easy. But I sure as hell won't get pissed at him if he decides to write me for the full fine. Start taking responsibility for your actions, people. This is ridiculous. You don't have to be Dudley Do-Right 24 hours a day, but if you decide to knowingly break the law, you have to accept the consequences if you get caught. What is so difficult to understand about that?

Fuck.