[syslakm]

Originally Posted by Bklyn

Apologies if this isn't the right place to add this :
Since I haven't had my vehicle delivered yet....

In my 21' Tesla Model S when the vehicle is at 100% charge regeneration is automatically turned off. The regen barely adds any noticeable range anyway. This also happens when the battery is cold, with regen being non-functional as well until it is warmed up. Even with pre-conditioning.

Tesla sometime in '21 disabled the ability to manually turn off regen. It is probably my biggest gripe with it. My son or anyone in the rear seat constantly complains of feeling nauseous it city driving. The Tesla fanboys when asked blame the driver, me , lol ,for not knowing how to adapt my driving. It's ridiculous to not be able to manually shut it off. Apparently it was to get the Model S over the magical number of 400 miles of range. Which it only saw for about a year.
Can you manually turn off the regen or adjust how much it causes the pull back effect when you let up on the throttle.

I had a Tesla as well and found that Regen turned off when it was cold. I found out quite dangerous as I'm used to OPD and when it unexpected off, it's jarring to suddenly adjust to a different style of driving.

[RichardInCA]

Originally Posted by Bklyn

Apologies if this isn't the right place to add this :
Since I haven't had my vehicle delivered yet....

In my 21' Tesla Model S when the vehicle is at 100% charge regeneration is automatically turned off. The regen barely adds any noticeable range anyway. This also happens when the battery is cold, with regen being non-functional as well until it is warmed up. Even with pre-conditioning.

Tesla sometime in '21 disabled the ability to manually turn off regen. It is probably my biggest gripe with it. My son or anyone in the rear seat constantly complains of feeling nauseous it city driving. The Tesla fanboys when asked blame the driver, me , lol ,for not knowing how to adapt my driving. It's ridiculous to not be able to manually shut it off. Apparently it was to get the Model S over the magical number of 400 miles of range. Which it only saw for about a year.
Can you manually turn off the regen or adjust how much it causes the pull back effect when you let up on the throttle.

To the last point, when in D mode, you can customize the level of regenerative braking to your taste - in B mode, it’s preset and the most aggressive.

[AP]

Question for those you with an ev
Assuming the ambient temperature remains the same, how much charge is lost over a period of time without driving the car?(if any)

Now I know the car is never really truly off as there is the alarm active and there may be other going on in the background potentially ( who knows!)
But with a lithium battery in say a phone that’s switched off, over time that charge gradually goes

Wonder if that effect is noticeable on a car battery in anyway or so small as to be insignificant

[RichardInCA]

Originally Posted by AP

Question for those you with an ev
Assuming the ambient temperature remains the same, how much charge is lost over a period of time without driving the car?(if any)

Now I know the car is never really truly off as there is the alarm active and there may be other going on in the background potentially ( who knows!)
But with a lithium battery in say a phone that’s switched off, over time that charge gradually goes

Wonder if that effect is noticeable on a car battery in anyway or so small as to be insignificant

I’ve gone almost a week without driving it, and found no loss of charge (i.e. <1%)

[SkykingUSA]

Regarding the EV models, remember that they also have a standard 12 volt car battery in them in addition to the large high volt battery pack. I believe the electronics run off that battery, which probably includes the alarm.

[KeelTiii]

I have this. From SoCal.

[BMW012]

Originally Posted by AP

Question for those you with an ev
Assuming the ambient temperature remains the same, how much charge is lost over a period of time without driving the car?(if any)

Now I know the car is never really truly off as there is the alarm active and there may be other going on in the background potentially ( who knows!)
But with a lithium battery in say a phone that’s switched off, over time that charge gradually goes

Wonder if that effect is noticeable on a car battery in anyway or so small as to be insignificant

sounds like you are in the market to purchase one

[deutsch100]

From this late morning, about 60F:

47% SOC and 142 miles.

So again works out to be about 300/302 miles. Parked in the garage, not plugged in and I did not pre-condition or pre-climate via the app before driving.

I know VERY cold temps and no preconditioning will kill range, but I am beyond stoked with my M60 range. My iX routinely got 380-400+ real miles of driving too. BMW is doing great with EV range!

[AP]

Originally Posted by BMW012

sounds like you are in the market to purchase one

No not at all.
Just a technical curiosity.

[RichardInCA]

Originally Posted by KeelTiii

I have this. From SoCal.

Whoa - edrive40 has entered the chat. That’s some range number you have there.

[mjr24]

So what’s the story with all the Teslas basically sitting dead the last few days because they won’t charge in the freezing weather. Is this a common issue in cold areas?

[KeelTiii]

Originally Posted by RichardInCA

Whoa - edrive40 has entered the chat. That’s some range number you have there.

I’m driving like a grandpa. I like the car but I might have made a mistake not getting the new 540i. Time will tell.

[deutsch100]

Originally Posted by mjr24

So what’s the story with all the Teslas basically sitting dead the last few days because they won’t charge in the freezing weather. Is this a common issue in cold areas?

I'm curious too. It's been all over Instagram and even our local Fox 11 nightly news covered this story! Only Tesla?

[G35c6MT]

Chicago @ 4 degrees

[Travis]

New York is brutal …

[BMWKLG]

This is so interesting. Im definitely new to EV, in regard to interest (currently don't own); however I never knew battery power would be reduced in the cold.

I just finished an article in the NY Times about Tesla owners and the issues they have in the cold and the long lines, altercations, and constant recharging of Uber drivers.

Article Here

I'm in Houston and the past three days have rendered the city motionless with scattered outages and deep freezing. There is a Tesla and Lucid showroom less than 5 miles from me and each has about 15-20 chargers. I drove by and the lines were ridiculous.

Do the i5 M60 vehicles suffer this same fate? Are batteries insulated better? Is there an abundance of charging locations?

Just a Curious George.

[Travis]

Originally Posted by BMWKLG

This is so interesting. Im definitely knew to EV, in regard to interest (currently don't own); however I never knew battery power would be reduced in the cold.

I just finished an article in the NY Times about Tesla owners and the issues they have in the cold and the long lines, altercations, and constant recharging of Uber drivers.

Article Here

I'm in Houston and the past three days have rendered the city motionless with scattered outages and deep freezing. There is a Tesla and Lucid showroom less than 5 miles from me and each has about 15-20 chargers. I drove by and the lines were ridiculous.

Do the i5 M60 vehicles suffer this same fate? Are batteries insulated better? Is there an abundance of charging locations?

Just a Curious George.

My opinion 1) The battery needs to pre conditioned to achieve peak charging speed, but not many people know how to do that; 2) the charging station relies on power supply as well, which could be a problem in harsh weather; 3) I guess (suspect) people want to charge more than necessary (e.g. why not just charge 10 mins for a quick drive home and then use home charger) so it creates lines.

[MrDit]

Originally Posted by mjr24

So what’s the story with all the Teslas basically sitting dead the last few days because they won’t charge in the freezing weather. Is this a common issue in cold areas?

From what I have read, I don't think it is a "won't charge" problem just not enough chargers for folks to use (long line-ups) if you don't have an at home charge option. Been cold here up north in Canada as well and a couple of guys in the office have Teslas with home chargers and no problem.

[BMWKLG]

Originally Posted by MrDit

From what I have read, I don't think it is a "won't charge" problem just not enough chargers for folks to use (long line-ups) if you don't have an at home charge option. Been cold here up north in Canada as well and a couple of guys in the office have Teslas with home chargers and no problem.

That makes sense. Then, I can't understand why someone would buy a Tesla, or any EV, and not have a home charging station. I know a couple of people who do that. They have unlimited charging and don't see the point in getting a home charger installed.

[deutsch100]

208 miles @ 69% SOC with 53F.....301 miles range! Pretty amazing BMW! Danke schön

[Scrapula]

The problem with the Tesla charging station was the charging cables. The location in the news used older thick cables. They got very stiff and heavy. People gave up putting them back and laid them on the ground. Snow got into the charging head. Then they wouldn’t work. They needed to be cleaned out and then attached. I think people were just not thinking.

[CaboM4]

Originally Posted by Sequence001

It seems no one is considering the ‘Maximum Range’ feature in this car. Gives you an extra 70-80 miles of range.

https://youtube.com/shorts/f8_5loeC7...d40pj_hwY4EC-1

I consider it not an option. I have it on my i7, and if you want to consider freezing your ass off with no heat, and not exceeding 60mph, then yeah, I guess you can add some range