[P1]

Originally Posted by Gdiddy23

$136k ADM on a new EV Hummer. Lol what is this world

Has anyone thought about how many folks will be upside down on their cars loans a year, two years from now?

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by P1

Has anyone thought about how many folks will be upside down on their cars loans a year, two years from now?

Yes, it's been pointed out many times.

But if someone that can pay $250-300k for a vehicle, they probably aren't concerned.

[Quadruple VANOS]

Originally Posted by P1

Has anyone thought about how many folks will be upside down on their cars loans a year, two years from now?

First, I agree. However it is worth considering that bureaucrats are banning ICE; so the ability to secure a desirable ICE before extinction can offset this as a purely financial viewpoint.

[Kolyan2k]

We got people here paying $500k over list market price on houses.....they just don't care, $500k is pocket change these days for many

[Equilibrandt]

Wondering what percentage of the dealership-employed Internet Sales Managers that lurk these forums know about this site.

Devil's advocate here: it'd be pretty easy for those dealership personnel to post fake 'no markup' listings. That only gets offset but a bunch of truthful people like y'all posting about the same dealers.

[AlexFL]

When you think Bronco ADMs suck (and they do), check out this Defender 110 V8. It’s insane at this point.

[rantarM3]

That pricing is so insane it's funny! I'd love to see a photo of the person that buys it for their asking price.

[StradaRedlands]

Originally Posted by Equilibrandt

Wondering what percentage of the dealership-employed Internet Sales Managers that lurk these forums know about this site.

Devil's advocate here: it'd be pretty easy for those dealership personnel to post fake 'no markup' listings. That only gets offset but a bunch of truthful people like y'all posting about the same dealers.

A friend of mine at an Audi dealer found an fake listing on there for their store... presumed it was vindictive or another dealer trying to make them look bad. That didn't even occur to me, but it's only as good as the data entered onto it. Maybe they should only officially list ADMs that can be proven with a photo? Although someone who was really focused on this could pretty easily shop an image to show excessive pricing.

[dreamingat30fps]

Originally Posted by StradaRedlands

A friend of mine at an Audi dealer found an fake listing on there for their store... presumed it was vindictive or another dealer trying to make them look bad. That didn't even occur to me, but it's only as good as the data entered onto it. Maybe they should only officially list ADMs that can be proven with a photo? Although someone who was really focused on this could pretty easily shop an image to show excessive pricing.

I'm not sure most dealers care. I mean how many people know about that site? I had never heard of it until I saw this thread. It also has very limited data. Like I looked up Ford in FL and a few dealers came up but almost none comparing the same model. Many of the dealers with no markup are dealers that I have purchased from in the past and at least to me are known for being the least shady.

Can't really blame the dealers. As long as people are willing to pay the markups it's not going to stop. When people say I don't need or want a $200k land rover (I don't even know what land rovers cost honestly) and dealers are left holding the bag, only then will this nonsense end.

[P1]

Imagine not having a single functioning braincell and buying this:

[mjr24]

I think this is petty AF. Just don't do business with the dealer then. You say you won't do business with them but what if next month these same dealers said they will give you 10 percent off MSRP?

People who bitch and complain about markup are Karens. Just don't buy from that dealer. No one in real life is going to feel sorry for you because you are complaining about a $5k markup on a $100k car.

[chris719]

The best part about the list is I spotted a 228i Gran Coupe that had a $2000 ADM at Sterling BMW. If true, I don't understand it. They should be paying people to take that car.