Rumour: McLaren Automotive to be sold

Holset · 11-16-2021, 02:29 PM

In my opinion if Mclaren have to be bought up it would be better if BMW bought them but you can't deny the success VAG has had with many different brands.
BMW has been successful in resurrect Rolls Royce and Mini the Rover buy didn't work out so great except Mini.
But let's see how it play out.

GoneIn4Secs · 11-16-2021, 02:34 PM

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Ya, plus the design was dated even when it came out, never mind now, in addition to its lacklustre performance #s.

Kinda incredible that McLaren's in dire straits despite the great cars it produces. Talk about poor mgt. Not surprised that we dunno what's going on exactly w that company...I mean, did we even get a real time for their P1 at Nürburgring? LOL.

I8 design is actually great and futuristic

Better looking than alot of modern cars

tranquility · 11-16-2021, 02:52 PM

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God, it seems like Mclaren dodged a bullet by not being acquired by BMW. I hope that never happens, at least not while BMW’s under its current regime. Despite a business strategy that’s caused it to bleed money, McLaren perhaps more than anybody produces compelling products that drive great, punch above their weight, and IMO look spectacular. Can you imagine what would happen if BMW got a hold of them??

Nightmare of those hideously-oversized BMW nostrils appearing in new McLaren models lmao.

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I8 design is actually great and futuristic

Better looking than alot of modern cars

We have different opinions, I think it looks so dated/stale and still in the 'clay model' stage.

Humdizzle · 11-16-2021, 02:58 PM

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McLaren, BMW, and Audi have all denied this news.

VW already sold Bugatti to RIMAC, right?

Rimac owns a majority stake at 55%, VW owns 45%.

AlexFL · 11-16-2021, 06:04 PM

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Rimac owns a majority stake at 55%, VW owns 45%.

Porsche owns 45% of Bugatti Rimac.

MontyB1 · 11-16-2021, 08:01 PM

Porsche is just a subsidiary within VW though isn’t it.

I mean is there anyone outside the VW group now it’s huge and almost monopolistic in its size. They have now 10 or 11 different brands within the group.

Humdizzle · 11-17-2021, 12:36 PM

tranquility · 11-17-2021, 03:31 PM

I'm still intrigued at times when thinking back about the power struggle between Porsche vs VW and the crazy suicide of that billionaire. Lots of backdr maneuvering no doubt.

Darth One · 11-17-2021, 08:28 PM

On that point, Porsche very nearly bought VW instead of the other way around. I wonder how many people remember that

Darth One · 11-17-2021, 08:40 PM

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God, it seems like Mclaren dodged a bullet by not being acquired by BMW. I hope that never happens, at least not while BMW’s under its current regime. Despite a business strategy that’s caused it to bleed money, McLaren perhaps more than anybody produces compelling products that drive great, punch above their weight, and IMO look spectacular. Can you imagine what would happen if BMW got a hold of them??

Not break down on the way home from the dealership..?

Hey if that's what's important to you, this is the forum for you:

https://www.toyotanation.com/forums/

My Mclaren spent about as much time in the shop as my M4 GTS

tranquility · 11-17-2021, 08:47 PM

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On that point, Porsche very nearly bought VW instead of the other way around. I wonder how many people remember that

That's what I averred-to in the post before yours. Ya, it was some crazy stuff.

m3fuz · 11-17-2021, 09:32 PM

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Great pic.

For anyone interested in the Porsche/VW or VW/Porsche transaction, this may be helpful:

Eternalthinker · 11-19-2021, 04:53 PM

The quality of the cars from Woking would likely improve if this were to happen. I look at Lamborghini, and the build quality has been drastically improved. German culture of quality would likely transfer

Red Bread · 11-19-2021, 07:22 PM

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The quality of the cars from Woking would likely improve if this were to happen. I look at Lamborghini, and the build quality has been drastically improved. German culture of quality would likely transfer

BMW hasn't exactly made MINI into a pillar of quality. But it is probably safe to say that Land Rover has benefited from BMW and Tata ownership.

fastboatster · 11-20-2021, 01:28 AM

sucks that VW is apparently going to buy McLaren. I for one would like to see another McLaren F1 with a BMW engine. Would have been great if BMW and McLaren could also have an F1 team.

Chihuahua · 11-20-2021, 07:46 AM

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BMW hasn't exactly made MINI into a pillar of quality.

Agree. My R50 with a Chrysler motor in it was dead nuts reliable. As soon as BMW started putting their own engines in MINIs, all hell broke loose.

SickGTR · 11-20-2021, 02:35 PM

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sucks that VW is apparently going to buy McLaren. I for one would like to see another McLaren F1 with a BMW engine. Would have been great if BMW and McLaren could also have an F1 team.

Just what we need. Another BMW partnership. That Supra is an abomination. Just saying

fastboatster · 11-21-2021, 06:41 PM

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Just what we need. Another BMW partnership. That Supra is an abomination. Just saying

I think that exterior design is all Toyota, it looks somewhat Lexus like to me. So maybe bmw is not always at fault, huh? I’m sure BMW owned McLaren would produce acceptable designs.

SickGTR · 11-21-2021, 06:54 PM

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Just what we need. Another BMW partnership. That Supra is an abomination. Just saying

I think that exterior design is all Toyota, it looks somewhat Lexus like to me. So maybe bmw is not always at fault, huh? I’m sure BMW owned McLaren would produce acceptable designs.

Maybe. I think it looks like a Z4 / BRZ ugly bastard. I'm sure the McClaren partnership would be better. Can't imagine it would be worse!!

brad850csi · 11-22-2021, 11:02 PM

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Just what we need. Another BMW partnership. That Supra is an abomination. Just saying

Look up G29 hardtop or coupe renders. It can be a good looking coupe, just not with the Toyota body work in my opinion.

tranquility · 11-23-2021, 12:16 AM

Ya, that Supra w its manga/cartoonish deformed carp look is not happening. New Z4 is not such a looker either.

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Holset Captain 336 Rep 733 Posts Drives: F90 M5 Comp LCI Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Sweden iTrader: (0)	In my opinion if Mclaren have to be bought up it would be better if BMW bought them but you can't deny the success VAG has had with many different brands. BMW has been successful in resurrect Rolls Royce and Mini the Rover buy didn't work out so great except Mini. But let's see how it play out.
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MontyB1 Colonel 1670 Rep 2,014 Posts Drives: BMW X3 Join Date: Nov 2021 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Porsche is just a subsidiary within VW though isn’t it. I mean is there anyone outside the VW group now it’s huge and almost monopolistic in its size. They have now 10 or 11 different brands within the group.
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tranquility sportscars only 3519 Rep 3,271 Posts Drives: 2011 Z4 sDrive 35i Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Montréal iTrader: (0)	I'm still intrigued at times when thinking back about the power struggle between Porsche vs VW and the crazy suicide of that billionaire. Lots of backdr maneuvering no doubt. __________________ The richest one percent of this country owns half our country's wealth, five trillion dollars. One third of that comes from hard work, two thirds comes from inheritance, interest on interest accumulating to widows and idiot sons and what I do, stock and real estate speculation...It's bullsh*t. I create nothing. I own. We make the rules, pal...Now you're not naive enough to think we're living in a democracy, are you buddy?
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Darth One drunk poster 6613 Rep 3,648 Posts Drives: M4 GTS \| E46 M3 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: FL iTrader: (0)	On that point, Porsche very nearly bought VW instead of the other way around. I wonder how many people remember that
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fastboatster Captain 435 Rep 971 Posts Drives: 2009 bmw 328i Join Date: May 2019 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	sucks that VW is apparently going to buy McLaren. I for one would like to see another McLaren F1 with a BMW engine. Would have been great if BMW and McLaren could also have an F1 team. __________________ 09 328i TiAg 6MT barebones with sport package
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