[Darth One]

in all fairness, i think the cook would disagree with your assessment of Boss 1 as a crappy boss.

and i laughed at the ramp story. i guess that makes me as big of an asshole as Boss 2

[King Rudi]

I was offered a job as an outside sales rep for a flooring center. The business was owned by a sleazy buy here/pay here car lot owner. He used the profit of the flooring center to put back in inventory for the car lots he owned to keep stock rotated. He allowed his spoiled rotten daughter and her husband who was spoiled in his own right to run the business. The original game plan was that they were going to hook me up with a company van to load with samples. I would then cruise around looking for new construction do the sales gig. They never bought a van, then expected me to use my car (Lexus IS 350) and my gas to sell for them. I did this for a while but the manager (son-in-law) would also add his name to the sales order which would instantly cut my commission in half. Once I turned in my sales sheet for the day of who I contacted or sold to, he would go behind my back and sell them cheaper flooring, then yet again add his name to the invoice. The dumb ass couldn't understand how he was screwing me out of commission because he didn't understand how the system worked. On top of this he was screwing himself out of money by selling cheaper product to my customers behind my back.

The owner, his daughter and her dumb ass husband came to me one day and told me if I expected to grow my business I would need to buy a van. I laughed at them and asked how it was my responsibility to buy a van to sell flooring for them. If they had any faith in me and expected me to do well then they needed to supply me with the tools to do my job. The owner suggested I sell my Lexus and buy a van. RIIIIIIGGGHT?

These ass hats screwed me out of as much money as they possibly could. They screwed me out of jobs/projects I had deadlines for because they couldn't get their shit together and then blamed it all on me. Funny how I was a successful sales person everywhere else I worked for the exception of that place. They had a kid quit on them that was hourly and tried to force me into that position which cut my money even more. They decided they were going to let the son-in-law do outside sales. One day I simply had enough and told them what I thought and walked out.

I ran into one of the other sales reps from that place a few weeks ago and he now runs the place. Apparently the daughter and her husband embezzled a ton of money from her dad and then used that money to buy a company in a neighboring city that I actually hooked them up with. They screwed the guy on the deal of buying his business as well. As of today, their business is failing, they have lost their house, had both vehicles repo'd, the husband had to sell his boat and motorcycle and neither of their families will have anything to do with them. Pathetic at what some people think it takes to be successful.

It's better to struggle and be a good person than to screw everyone trying to be successful. I'm not a religious person, but I am a spiritual person. Karma will ALWAYS come back to you....always.

[King Rudi]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

I own a business, started by my father. My brother and I now own and run it. In my previous life, I worked for a bad boss and a great boss. Bad boss was a spoiled little shit that never had to actually work for a living, Ivy League educated arrogant prick. Great boss grew up poor, worked his ass off and built a great company. Bad boss expected the impossible. Good boss's expectations were fair as he actually did what he expected me to do.

Today, I am good boss. I've done every job in this company. I treat people the way I like to be treated. I lead by example and help them be a better person, a better employee, and give them the opportunity to rise in the organization.

Unfortunately, some people never worked for bad boss so they don't appreciate a good boss. Some people just suck. Poor work ethics, a sense of entitlement, resentment towards the boss. They see the office, the nice car and think it must be nice. They don't however want to put in the blood, sweat and tears it takes to build a business, they just want the rewards. It takes wind out of your sails. Don't get me wrong, I am not down on everyone. I have some great people that started out as clerks, busted their asses, took the initiative and are now managers and directors and damn good ones at that. But they are few and far between. Not everyone is cut out to be a leader, and that's fine. A good leader makes employees better.

Climbs off soapbox....

Good for you! To hear this makes me proud of and for you.

A leader projects an image of importance. A good leader makes everyone around them feel important.

[******]

Originally Posted by usshelena725

Here is one more...

So at that same store, we had a sales manager named Todd - who reported to the jerk GM I mentioned in my previous post. Good 'ol Todd was absolutely hilarious, but also did about an 8-ball of coke a day at work and as such, had zero filters.

So a couple comes in to buy a VW Beetle and when I pull their credit, it's atrocious. I show the SM (Todd) and he says "Lemme go talk to them". Here it comes, I think.....

So Todd walks in, slaps the husband on the back so hard he nearly falls out of his chair and says "Damn son, y'all don't pay anybody, do ya?" I about lost it! The customer asks what type of interest rate they are looking at, and Todd says "Damn, well, I'm gonna try my best to get you one and whatever it ends up being, you will gladly accept it, because we all know you aren't going to make many of these payments anyways."

He then asks the customers "So how much money do you have down?"
They ask "Well how much do we need?"
Todd says, laughing, "Fucking all of it!"
Customer says he can come up with a thousand dollars down.
Todd holds out his hand and says "Give it to me." Customer just looks at him.
Todd follows up with while snapping his fingers "Gimme the thousand dollars, I ain't gonna go see the GM about a loan if he doesn't think you are serious. Gimme your money!"

They did. Place was terrible, but great for a laugh.

Lol...Todd sounds like Putty from Seinfeld who does those rentacar commercials now...

[Run Silent]

Originally Posted by Herdalum

Lol...Todd sounds like Putty from Seinfeld who does those rentacar commercials now...

Dude, this guy cracked me up but he was such an asshole, but a funny one. On one occasion, I came to work on a Saturday morning to find a large black limo parked in the new car lot, windows down, Todd's arm hanging out with puke all over the door and on the concrete. I didn't even ask.

[M_Six]

Worked for a PE who was so anal that he expected your desk to be set up just like his. Files in the same place, pencils in the same place in the same drawer, AutoCad set up just like his, etc. He wouldn't even let us edit documents in Word. We had to literally cut and paste sections of previous reports and documents onto yellow legal-size paper and then fill in the new text by hand. I spent more time explaining my handwriting to the secretaries as I did writing it. Most new hire engineers at that place lasted less than two weeks.

[Banana Hammock]

Not that bad but I work as a programmer and this happened when I was interning at a different company than where I work now. I had a boss who would constantly brag about her intelligence at meetings and would constantly interrupt employees giving their status update on the work they have done in an attempt to take credit for it. I've always figured that she helped them with the code and would sneak in to take credit for helping others out. One day I had a bad case of the runs and quickly excused myself from my cube, leaving my work PC unlocked. I come back and find her sifting through my code. I did not think much of this until the next meeting where she took credit for literally everything I did.

[lsturbointeg]

ugh so my boss this morning decides that he doesn't take our word for any completed training assignments that we have to take online. he sent us an email requesting us to send him screen shots of the section completed and email them to him just so he knows they're done?

[cmyx6go]

Originally Posted by Not_Judy

Good for you! To hear this makes me proud of and for you.

A leader projects an image of importance. A good leader makes everyone around them feel important.

[Never_Enough]

Originally Posted by OnerDriver

So?

So if you're that paranoid, you shouldn'e be the boss.

[King Rudi]

Originally Posted by cmyx6go

You are most welcome. Individuals like you are the type of employers I personally enjoy working for. I would much rather work along side someone who has started at the bottom and doesn't mind get their hands dirty versus someone who was given a position and simply expects everyone just to do what they are told without the why behind it.

I'm a firm believer in grooming employees as they do their job to set them up for future endeavors. Communicating with employees as to why they are doing what they are working on and explaining the impact on the company that their tasks hold is key. All too often most employers simply want mindless sheep to do what their told and that's it.

The key to any successful business is happy, well informed employees.

[King Rudi]

Originally Posted by lsturbointeg

ugh so my boss this morning decides that he doesn't take our word for any completed training assignments that we have to take online. he sent us an email requesting us to send him screen shots of the section completed and email them to him just so he knows they're done?

Does he not have access in the training system to see what training classes have been completed? Seems odd not to. In the event that he doesn't and compliance in mandated from a corporate level, I could see his request for solidification that training classes are completed; however, I don't know of any online training classroom environment that doesn't offer the ability for management to check progression of completion for the employees.

Could it be that this is offered and he doesn't know how to check completion status?

[lsturbointeg]

Originally Posted by Not_Judy

Does he not have access in the training system to see what training classes have been completed? Seems odd not to. In the event that he doesn't and compliance in mandated from a corporate level, I could see his request for solidification that training classes are completed; however, I don't know of any online training classroom environment that doesn't offer the ability for management to check progression of completion for the employees.

Could it be that this is offered and he doesn't know how to check completion status?

Yes he does have the ability to request access. But he likes to Micro manage so much that we all believe he would rather see we all do what he says rather than him not being involved. My job is more self starting and independent where we really don't need a supervisor since we are a 24/7 running pipeline facility. The fact that we all communicate through email and we all see the memos. So if I send him an email stating my Training modules are all completed and up to date he should accept that. Not ask us for a print screen shot of 10 pages. That's just ridiculous! We are grown men in this industry...not your typical teenage kids at Chic Fila

[King Rudi]

Originally Posted by lsturbointeg

Yes he does have the ability to request access. But he likes to Micro manage so much that we all believe he would rather see we all do what he says rather than him not being involved. My job is more self starting and independent where we really don't need a supervisor since we are a 24/7 running pipeline facility.

Ridiculous. This would make me question the company itself in the decision making process if they feel this guy was the best candidate for his position.

[Savageenterprise]

Before starting my business I worked for this company for 5 years and I was the top producing salesman (not counting the gold digging bitch rep that’s now my ex bosses current wife) and I have to say towards the end, after all the frustration, it’s hard to believe people like that exist.

I’m talking no paid sick days, them micro managing every fucking deal and way to go about things, double standards for the whore wife, lack of communication, no appreciation for the good and nit picking on the minor details, them refusing to pay anyone a decent salary in the office so we had constant turnover with millions of mistakes and the list goes on....

So I get this group deal and close a deal for roughly $30k and mind you, my underpaid rape commission rate was a mere 10%....so I was supposed to make 3k on the deal. End of the month comes and I don’t get any commission on the deal. So I go to the boss and say, hey what’s the deal? I didn’t get paid any commission on this deal and he says “well you have to meet a quota to cover equipment costs so what you sold basically covered the quota and you’ll make commission moving forward....

Needless to say I fucking lost it because they were cheap bastards and they knew what they were supposed to do. Quota for what? Did I get part ownership in any of equipment? Of course not!

Fast forward to next week and We had a blow out at our next Monday morning meeting where I said in front of the whole sales staff that some promotional material for a new product being discussed looked like shit. The boss was praising it like it was the best thing to come off a printing press. It certainly was not and I expressed my honest opinion.

He got mad, told me where the door was and a month later I told him I was quitting. Best feeling in the world, watching that man sink into his chair as I called his bluff, on my terms...they lost over $250k in residual business after I left because I was the only glue holding those accounts together between their greediness and office fuckups. Serves them right.

Plus, it was a great life lesson on how not to treat employees and people I’m general.

[Darth One]

Originally Posted by lsturbointeg

ugh so my boss this morning decides that he doesn't take our word for any completed training assignments that we have to take online. he sent us an email requesting us to send him screen shots of the section completed and email them to him just so he knows they're done?

it's funny for me to read this because i just asked my employees at our morning meeting to save screen shots of them completing their required training assignments.

but i do it because our online tracking system is unreliable and i'm trying to save them from getting screwed by it later. the training we do is reported to regulators and there are consequences to people who don't take it.

clearly you have a different situation but i was amused to read that someone had done the exact same thing as me a few minutes ago

[Darth One]

reading that actually made me make a note to explain to people again why i'm asking them to do this. there's probably someone who didn't attend the meeting, hears about it second hand and is thinking - great, why is this asshole making me do this

[******]

I’ve had crappy bosses, but I’ve also had plenty of crappy employees. My good employees thought I was a good boss, my bad ones not so much. Of course there’s always the possibility that I just thought the ones who liked me were good employees and the ones who didn’t weren’t... Could that be it?
nahhhh.

[CTinline-six]

Not so much a crappy boss, but a crappy company.

Right after college I worked for an auto insurance company as an adjuster. BIG mistake. I did meet some awesome friends there which I still hang out with to this day, so that was one plus.

To start, I didn't get paid for a month. They kept saying there was an issue with the direct deposit not working, which interestingly enough one of my friends I met there had the same issue. After we both went to HR suddenly our checks were in the mail and the direct deposit problem worked itself out...

The issue with this company is their claims management. I found out later that there was a 50% turnover rate every year for new employees, so not only were we understaffed, but a major portion of the staff were brand new, and had very little knowledge of policies, how to update claim files so information was accurate for customers, etc. For 2 hours a day, we were on what was called "queue calls". This means we would take incoming calls for the company and work other people's claim files. The problem with this meant that the new staff were working in your claim files, screwing up your claims, which the company held you responsible for.

Your manager also had a console with everyone's time. You had to swipe into the building, which notified your manager you were in the building. You didn't officially clock into work until you logged into your phone program on your computer. If you had a computer that was slow... that meant you better get to work a bit earlier. We had to use that phone program to sign out anytime we went to lunch, the bathroom, a meeting, etc. If we were gone for 1 minute longer than the allowed time (30 min for lunch) a notification warning would pop up on your manager's screen. Everything was tracked, the time you were on phone calls with customers, how many phone calls you returned, when you returned them in relation to when you received them, how much money you paid out to insureds for damages, etc. I was actually investigated 3 times because of the amount I had paid out to insureds for damages. Each time I was 100% correct, it just happened that I had a lot of totaled vehicles that week resulting in a higher payout. This basically meant that you had to be walking in the door for work at 8:10 if you clocked in at 8:30. If you wanted a coffee, you better get there at 7:45 so you have enough time to go to the cafe. We were all salary, and were scheduled to work until 5pm. If we had a call before that, we had to take it (remember everything is logged on your manager's PC). There were many times I got a call at 4:55 from a customer and didn't finish until 5:30, 5:45, or 6pm.

Oh and we had 2 weeks vacation, but good luck trying to use it. Since a certain number of staff needed to be on the floor at all times, there was a lottery for vacation time, and the most senior employees (100 or so employees in my dept) got to choose first, so anything from June-September was all blocked off. That includes doctor's appointments, since sick/vacation time was all considered PTO.

The company required us to do 10 hours of training a week while getting all of our claims done. I was also threatened daily by customers who were denied the coverage they expected (people wanting $20k for a 12 year old Civic that was a total loss). My customer service performance was dependent on a survey that played after every phone call, which was BS.
I argued with management on this one since it was completely useless. Most people having been in an accident would still be pissed even if you gave them a new car, and most people hung up before the survey anyway, leaving only those who want to give negative feedback.

Also, if you were male, your chances of getting higher in the company were slim. All the managers were gorgeous young 20 something females who clearly slept with all the 50 something male directors. Many of them were clueless about anything policy related, one had been there a month before being promoted. And I don't mean that as an assumption, they actually had to make a rule in the company a month after I started that you could not have a sexual relationship with a superior. They apparently couldn't figure out why their turnover was so high.

My friends left soon after I did, and we all agreed that you couldn't pay us a six figure salary to work there.

[lsturbointeg]

my boss just showed up this morning out of the blue...on a Freakin" Saturday!!! WTF! Go home! you don't need to stop by to see how things are running?! you can call me for that you are salaried and you do not get bonus points nor do you get a bonus for coming in on your days off

[Never_Enough]

On a fairly regular basis I've been told to cut out at 4 on Fridays (My normal end of day is 4:30), sometimes even earlier, but apparently that's only a super perk & only when "approved" Because we need to really make every day count to make a push for the rest of the year. Meanwhile, he comes in late on the regular & leaves early on the regular for things like "We just got a puppy."

So January to before now days don't count & no one does any work? GTFO & GFY. This guy is a tool. I won't be upset if he gets hit by a bus.

I'm planning on putting my case together to ask for a raise. Won't surprise me if he fires me for asking.

[Never_Enough]

My idiot bosshole continues to one up himself. Yesterday, he's telling me I might have to do a proposal review call today if he can't get back to the office in time. (His proposal) Bleh whatever it's easy and, if I do it, one less thing he can use to not give me a raise when I ask. Then this morning, before work even starts, he texts me saying I will be doing the call, but he will be on it. So you're a POS.

Then just now he calls me wanting him to text him the address to a client site b/c he "can't find it" I punch it in Google & it's the 1st thing that comes up. How the fuck does this asshole survive? Jesus Christ...

It just got better! He replies saying that address came up 2 hours away, can't be it. I found it.

No, asshole, it's 15 minutes away if you could fucking read. You found nothing. Now you're gonna take credit for what I just did? Die.